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Hidden fasteners with garapa decking

richardi | Posted in Construction Techniques on January 22, 2013 06:52am

My GC would prefer to face nail rather than use a hidden fasteners (to minimize cost). I like the unblemish look but at what cost.

I read many posts and their relative feedback but its difficult to nail down (pun intended) which is good system that doesn’t t take all day to install. 

I am open to any and all suggestions.

Thanks  

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  1. florida | Jan 22, 2013 01:20pm | #1

    There is no such thing as a "good system that doens't take all day to install." If you want somethig better than face nails you'll have to get off your wallet. The clips are about $.50 each and the screws are anywhere for $.15 to $.35 each. That's per board per joist. This doesn't include the considerable amount of extra labor to install them.

  2. richardi | Jan 22, 2013 05:50pm | #2

    good suggestion

    Let's say my GC lets me take the work away from him and/or his subs, what fastner/technique would you recommend? And why?

    1. DanH | Jan 22, 2013 08:34pm | #3

      I haven't looked at the systems recently, but there are several good ones, and most are oriented as much to the DIYer as to the pro.

  3. gbaune | Jan 22, 2013 10:00pm | #4

    Hidden Fasteners

    Interesting looking deck material, haven't seen that one before.  Click on the link for a quality (no plastic) hidden fastener, marine grade aluminum w/stainless steel fastener.  I didn't see the option of getting the decking pre-kerfed for a hidden fastener, is it available??

    http://www.screwsolutions.com/The-Ultimate-Hidden-Deck-Fastener-System_c_17.html

    1. richardi | Jan 22, 2013 10:29pm | #5

      not pre-kerfed
      I saw the material the other day and it does not have a slot. One would have to be cut thus increasing the labor cost. Even creating slots at the rafter with a biscuit joiner would require more labor than face nailing.

      Have you heard of the Camo tool?

      1. florida | Jan 23, 2013 06:24am | #6

        Yes, I've used the Camo tool and screws on two decks now. We really like it and it is easier to use then the clips and screws although

        it still cost about $.50 per board per joist not including the $50.00 for the tool.

      2. gbaune | Jan 23, 2013 12:19pm | #7

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        Richardi,

        Using the tool on a hardwood application would seem to create a lot of splitting, screwing through the edge of the board.  Using the fasteners on the face, either nails or screws, will take additional time in the way of pre-drilling, if you are using stainless steel.  The clip system that I talked about earlier are very user friendly, a plus if you should decide to do it yourself. 

        Good luck either way.

        1. florida | Jan 23, 2013 02:29pm | #8

          No, it doesn't split at all. Works very well actually. I'll be using it on all my deck jobs uless something better comes along.

      3. richardi | Jan 31, 2013 05:54am | #9

        Garapa Deck

        Update -

        I visited my new house last weekend and saw that the deck boards have had a slot cut into both edges and a piece was fastened to a temporarly work table with a hidden fastener. A good indoor task for a very cold day last week. 

        So my preference was acknowledged by the GC!

        Thanks everyone for all of your input. 

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