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   quicksilver | Jun 26, 2005 03:46am | #1

   The Hilti rep came by my job last week. He had one and I picked it up and looked at it, checked the blade adjust, bevel adjust. and blade lock. The blade lock looked "new and improved". I let him go without putting blade in, I was in a hurry, and regretted it the moment he left. I'm a worm drive man, with the exception on a Festool plunge cut kit, but I'm thinking seriously about buying one of these. The other Hilti equipment I have is so good and they've turned me into a fan. For rough construction their quality is unparalleled in my opinion. If you would have asked me 10 years ago if I would consider a sidewinder, I would have said no way.

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   dinothecarpenter | Jun 26, 2005 05:14am | #2

   Thanks.

   What I like about them is the extra cutting capacity with 7-1/4" blades.

   The fact that the blade guard is activated by fluid (hands free) and the plunge from the back of the saw. (like regular sidewinders and warm drives)

   That should give you more cross cut reach easier.

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   this one. The 267 E.

   One more saw for D.

   Thanks.

   YCF Dino

   Edited 6/25/2005 10:16 pm ET by YCFriend

   Edited 6/25/2005 10:16 pm ET by YCFriend

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   quicksilver | Jun 26, 2005 05:37am | #3

   He had a different model. 167. Man this thing looks even better.

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   dinothecarpenter | Jun 26, 2005 05:54am | #4

   This is the new hybrid CSaws from EU.

   The best saws are made in Slovenia by  GMM.

   They make all  Dewalt and Black& Decker tools for central EU (under agreement)

   Very modern and unique CO. I saw one of their prototypes.

   Forget about it. That Hilti looks old vs the new GMM.

   Imagine that now.

    

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   quicksilver | Jun 26, 2005 06:04am | #5

   I invested in a Festool rig a little over a year ago. So I really don't want to put to much out dollar wise, but I'm going to check out the saws you recommend I feel the need for a new toy.

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   dinothecarpenter | Jun 26, 2005 06:23am | #6

   The Festool rig is nice.

   If you need a new toy, get the new Festool router.

   If you need to get the best out of your rig....Get the Ez repeato.

   With the ATF on it, I got this.

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   1/10.000" and repeat cuts without moving the fence.

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   quicksilver | Jun 27, 2005 02:47am | #11

   I have the router with the shelf pin kit and another accessory I use to edge mortise. I also have the jigsaw. Looking to buy the saw table next

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   dinothecarpenter | Jun 27, 2005 03:45am | #17

   That was the spec's from the Hilti web site.

   My spec's ..after I play with them.

   The only good thing about my job now, is that I get to play with some crazy toys. I have a prototype saw that cost $5M to one CO. (design -development-and production prototype.)

   That saw was send to me in order to make sure it will work fine on the EZ.

   This is funny. They call me after few days for my feedback.

   --What kind of drugs do they sell there? this is ...   &%#@*&_+

   --YES Dino. Thanks for your feedback. we thought so too.

   You can keep the saw. no reason for us to spend the money for shipping back.

   Imagine that now.

    

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   gregb | Jun 27, 2005 04:33am | #18

   So, you gonna give us a hint what company it was? What color was the saw?

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   dinothecarpenter | Jun 27, 2005 04:40am | #20

   NO way  gregb.

    

    

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   quicksilver | Jun 27, 2005 04:35am | #19

   I tried to Googlr those saw references without any luck II got a refence to a stone cutting saw with th GNN. Can you post a link with woodworking equipment.

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   dinothecarpenter | Jun 27, 2005 04:45am | #21

    

   http://www.gmm.com.mk/Katalog.aspx?Link=Proizvoditel2

    

   This is better. They design and develop some unique tools.

   I saw one of the CS prototypes and blow my mind off.

   The Hilti looks old compare to what's coming next by this guys.

    

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   dinothecarpenter | Jun 27, 2005 05:01am | #22

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   That may help.

    

    

    

    

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   FastEddie1 | Jun 26, 2005 03:56pm | #7

   What do you mean the blade guard is activated by fluid ?

   Any idea on the cost?

    I'm sorry, I thought you wanted it done the right way.

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   dinothecarpenter | Jun 26, 2005 04:10pm | #8

   POWER

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   Smart Power TM system maintains constant blade speed under load

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   Most powerful tool on the market

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   6 speed setting let you fit the cutting speed to the job

    

   PRECISION

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   Optional guiding rail allows you to use your WSC 267-E circular saw like a portable table saw ensuring perfect straight and bevel cuts

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   Special 2-point blade locking mechanism for bevel cuts up to 45° prevents blade from wandering and bending

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   Unique counter-balance system reduces vibration for smooth cutting

    

   HANDLING

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   Compact design with in-line motor makes tool easy to maneuver

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   Uniquely positioned on top of the tool, the lower blade guard release is designed to be operated in one fluid motion

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   Front grip with finger hold located on the baseplate for optimized handling

    

   Hi ED. That's what I thought at first. Some kind of hydraulics??

   Ok. call me stupid. But you know what? May be I was thinking to fast.:)

   Looks like you can activate the guard from the top. (like the Bosch 8-1/4" CS)

   I know the price by Tuesday.

   YCF Dino

    

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   quicksilver | Jun 27, 2005 02:49am | #12

   You just have a lot af faith in the Hilti Co.

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   dinothecarpenter | Jun 27, 2005 03:26am | #14

   You just have a lot af faith in the Hilti Co.

   The idea was to get some feedback from users.

    Before I spend the money to buy 2 more saws ....and build the faith.

   Few guys have  ask me if the Hilti saws are good to be used on the eZ.

   My answer so far...I don't know.

   YCF Dino 

    

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   Timuhler | Jun 26, 2005 11:23pm | #9

   Our Hilti rep let us try it.   None of us liked it at all.  We are all wormdrive guys, but I can appreciate that this saw didn't compare with the Bosch or Hitachi.  Can't really say why, just didn't feel very well made

    

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   dinothecarpenter | Jun 27, 2005 02:06am | #10

   Thanks Timuhler.

   YCF dino

    

    

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   gdavis62 | Jun 27, 2005 03:18am | #13

   OK.  The sixty four dollar question.  How much?  As compared to other top-rated sidewinders, at, say, $125, how much does this red beauty go for?

   Gene Davis, Davis Housewrights, Inc., Lake Placid, NY

    

    

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   dinothecarpenter | Jun 27, 2005 03:30am | #15

   I have no idea.

   $250.00  for the regular sidewinder and $350.00+ for the fancy one?

   I  find out tomorrow.

   TCF dino

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   quicksilver | Jun 27, 2005 03:45am | #16

   The regular sidewinder the 167 can be bought ####HD for 169.00$