Hitachi Framing Nailer Confusion??????
Hi All,
Ok I’m looking to get a new framing nailer and have been impressed with the Hitachi NR83A. Good ‘ol work horse. But now it seems I’m seeing 2 other types the Hitachi NR83A2 and Hitachi NR83A2S. To confuse matters more upon visiting HD and having them open some boxes the boxes say 2 or 2S but the nailer always says Hitachi NR83A on it yet its different than the “classic” Hitachi NR83A.
One venture had us looking at a kit that clearly said Hitachi NR83A on the outside of the larger box, Hitachi NR83A2s on the inner box and Hitachi NR83A2 on the gun itself.
I always liked the idea of a depth adjustment and the Hitachis lack of that bugged me but one of them now boasts a depth adjustment, the Hitachi NR83A2 ( I think…hence my confusion)
Any advice on which to get or should I look at the new MAX guns?
Than ks,
Warren
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I have little experience with Hitachi guns, but you might want to read this:
http://forums.taunton.com/tp-breaktime/messages?msg=43121.1
Jon Blakemore
Do they still have the Hitachi nailgun-compressor special in your area? NR83A2 and EC12 for $499, and you get a $100 store card back on the purchase. Not a bad package for $399 net.
I just got one of the MAX framers a couple months ago.
I'll never go back to Hitachi. :)
The June JLC will have a full round head nailer review of about 10 or 11 guns.
I recently had the opportunity to use both the Hitachi NR83A2 (same as the NR83A, but with an adjustable depth of drive) http://www.hitachi.us/Apps/hitachicom/content.jsp?page=PneumaticFasteningTools/FramingNailers/details/NR83A2%20-%20Full%20Round%20Head%20Framing%20Nailer.html&level=2§ion=PneumaticFasteningTools&parent=FramingNailers&nav=left&path=jsp/hitachi/forhome/PowerTools/&nId=iD
and the Max SN890RH http://wis.max-ltd.co.jp/int/na/pshow.php3?productcode=KN95100 and to be honest, it totally depended on my mood as to which gun I liked better. They were dead even in my opinion. I would be very happy with either gun.
The max has a cool feature that allows you to pop open the nosepiece to get at nail jams. It is very cool.
I recently bought a Hitachi NV 75AG 3" coil nailer. It shoots 3" x .131" coil nails and is a very light gun. I would say as far as feel goes that it "feels" like it weighs the same as the NR83A2 when both guns are fully loaded with 10ds. It is a great gun. I put a Dead On Tools belt hook and this is now our favorite gun and we will start to replace our stick nailers with these.
Ah ha!
Do you see what I mean? Hitachi is claiming and I've seen it on the manual for the 83?? that they have an adjustable depth control gun but the specs you direct me to don't show it. It must be the NR832S but here's the confusing part..No mention of such a gun on the Hitachi site. The boxes at HD say NR832S but have a gun with no depth contol and says NR832 on them.
I'm so confused now..It really appears that Hitachi has 3 guns with 3 similar names and one has depth control ( which I want/need) and packages them all in the same box. And in fact in the HD case 2 mispabled, by Hitachi, boxes.
Good going guys,
Warren
Hitachi NR83A is the old round head nailer that is used all over the place
Hitachi NR83A2 is the old round head nailer that has been updated to include a dial type depth of drive adjustment
Hitachi NR83AA2 is a clipped headed nailer.
Hitachi's website is a little confusing. Try this link, but look at the right hand side. There you will find the NR83A2 and specs http://www.hitachi.us/Apps/hitachicom/content.jsp?page=PneumaticFasteningTools/FramingNailers/details/NR83AA2%20Pneumatic%20Fastening%20Tools.html&level=3§ion=PneumaticFasteningTools&parent=details&godparent=FramingNailers&nav=left&path=jsp/hitachi/forhome/PowerTools/&nId=127
"Hitachi NR83A is the old round head nailer that is used all over the place
Hitachi NR83A2 is the old round head nailer that has been updated to include a dial type depth of drive adjustment
Hitachi NR83AA2 is a clipped headed nailer."
Understood, But HD carries a NR83A2S and it has no depth adjustment. The manual you get with the NR83A2S or NR83A2 is the same.
The NR83A2's I saw had NO appartent depth adjustment . But once again the tool said NR83A2 but the box said NR83A2S. I've looked 5 like this so far.
Warren
Warren,
Criminy! :-) As if life isn't confusing enough :-) You know what bugs me? Is that boxes of nails will say 10d, but it really isn't a 10d nail. It is an 8d diameter nail that is 3". I hate that kind of thing.
Ya know..
It's just that danged ol' "s".
I'm gonna get a Max!!
Thanks all,
W!
Notrix,The box stores sell the "NR83A2-S" Real lumberyards sell the NR83A2 which has the depth of drive. I figure the S means "sans" [French for "without"]. Aside from that, they are the same gun. You need the depth of drive, don't settle for less.Bill
White Cap had a sale and the Super Max was on for $300 plus a phone card.
That was less than the new Hitachi 83A2 and the Max has a much better feature set. The old 83 should have been upgraded years ago. Try one on sheer. Nothing like blowing the nail 1/3 of the way in with no adjustment on the gun. Our tool repair shop offers a retro nose with an adjustment bolt.
After a week of debate, I gave in and got the Max. Like it. It has -
dial a depth
adjustable exhaust
swivel connector for the hose
selector for single shot or bump fire
actual safety switch
opening nose for jam clearning
no-mar nose piece on the gun
filter at the connector
Only thing lacking is a rafter hook and they don't make one. I am
grinding down a Paris model that I will bolt on.
ToolBear
I just bought the framing nailer kit and the gun unfortunately has no depth of adjustment. Is there a retro fit kit for this thing yet?
redwing
@@@ Retro kitYes, there is. My tool repair place in Santa Ana, CA stocks them. It's a nose piece with a nut welded on and a machine screw sticking down. You adjust the machine screw up and down and snug a stop nut. Crude but servicable. Not sure who carries them in your area. Perhaps a web search...That new Ridgid nailer is interesting. Has even more features than my Super Max.The ToolBear
"Never met a man who couldn't teach me something." Anon.
Thanks for the info. I've seen those on a lot of older guns and know that they work. Can you send me the name and phone number of your tool place in Santa Ana (if they haven't burned down in the wild fires yet). Maybe I can have one UPSed. I'm up in Napa (a transplant ferom Detroit).
Redwing
Maybe not in this case, but you have to watch the model numbers at the big box stores. They like to add a prefix, suffix, etc to a standard model, jsut to eliminate having to do price matching.