Looks like they’re getting ready to move a house Sunday. If I get a chance, I’ll go by and try to take some pics.
http://www.sj-r.com/news/x1720649777/Maisenbacher-House-move-set-to-start
jt8
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All that brick is scary...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fULk2PW5R1M
Nice video. Which then led me to a variety of other demo videos.
But anyway, I hope the newspaper gives a breakdown on the costs of moving the house. I remember when they moved a 3-story one a few years ago. Hate to think what it costs, what with all the electrical, tree trimmer, etc, crews that were standing by.jt8
The creative individual has the capacity to free himself from the web of social pressures in which the rest of us are caught. He is capable of questioning the assumptions that the rest of us accept. -- John Gardner
This one was moved a few years ago here, cost about $40K. It went about 4 blocks and took just a few hours. They raised it the day before the move, came back a month later to lower it.
http://www.nickelbros.com
I have moved two. One cost me 28k and the other 21k.
Both single story early 1960's ranches so very long and low. Moved may a couple dozen blocks down residential streets and one hwy.
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
How long ago?
jt8
The creative individual has the capacity to free himself from the web of social pressures in which the rest of us are caught. He is capable of questioning the assumptions that the rest of us accept. -- John Gardner
I knew you were going to ask that !! I knew should have posted that info when I hit "post" Be almost 16 years ago now. I am certain prices have gone up and I know I got a good deal on the houses and move.
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
The moving expense per se is only the half of it. Any time you move a building you pretty much have to bring it up to current code, meaning all new plumbing, electrical, and mechanicals. Often staircases are so far out of code that they have to be completely redesigned. Plus handicapped access, etc, on any public building.
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exactly what I was thinking.
Not far from me so I got the local coverage.
Damn, I was going to say it looks like one of those houses we used to see in the Finger Lakes Region. Great old houses. One of our friends recently sold his house in Phelps to a guy from Boston. His house was a stone house started in the 1780's and finished in 1814. On the National Register.
Carole,
Just to clarify, I am near the firehouse collapse featured in the youtube video, not near the house being moved in the OP.
This place is kinda wierd now, eh?
Oooops. Sorry. Yeah, it is weird.
His house was a stone house started in the 1780's and finished in 1814
Sounds like someone else works at my speed.
jt8
The creative individual has the capacity to free himself from the web of social pressures in which the rest of us are caught. He is capable of questioning the assumptions that the rest of us accept. -- John Gardner
LOL...Great old house. Even had a window in the back of the garage in which the original owners placed their gun to ward off Indians! This is in Ontario County in upstate NY..I loved that house. Close to Wine Country, too!
Our place was moved from downtown.
Wish they'd put a better foundation under it that 25 years ago...
Nice little bungalow. Glad they saved it.
jt8
The creative individual has the capacity to free himself from the web of social pressures in which the rest of us are caught. He is capable of questioning the assumptions that the rest of us accept. -- John Gardner
Thank you.
Lucky I was able to convince the contractor/rental owner to sell. I saw the place empty, looked up ownership and saw that he lived on a st. where a friend had grown up. Sure enough she'd babysat his kids. Foot in the door...
Didn't get by for the move, but here is the follow up story:
http://www.sj-r.com/news/x541353581/This-rolled-house
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jt8
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Ut oh... someone forgot to budget for the new foundation:
http://www.sj-r.com/local/x1772955280/Maisenbacher-House-is-homeless
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They should at least get it off the street. If I were doing the concrete I would want the house on cribs in it's permanent location and about two feet higher. Then the house mover can have his wheels back.
That is what I thought too. Not sure why they didn't do that in the first place. The owners must be good friends of the mayor or something.
jt8
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That one county sheriff guy will knock it offen the road!
Forrest
dang it, Forrest.. I just sprayed Doritos all over my keyboard!
LOL, he'll probably need a bigger tractor.
jt8
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So far the KY sheriff hasn't shown up. It was still there as of Sunday when I drove by.
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Clearance is about 6' on this side and maybe 6.5' on the other side.
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Looks like not all the porches were moved (or maybe it disappeared a while ago)
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jt8
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Kinda looks like a heat register/cold air return up on the soffit. They were on each side. Maybe someone was trying to vent the attic? I assume it isn't original??
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My camera has a good optical zoom, so here it is zoomed:
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And over towards the corner.
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I'm all for saving historic buildings, but it sure looked crumbly to me... wonder if they should have just dozed it?
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jt8
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By all accounts, the house mover guys did an OUTSTANDING job. After looking at the house and how crumbly it is, I'm amazed that it didn't fall down en route.
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Some of the beams and cribbing.
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Shot up underneath
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The lot where the house is SUPPOSED to go. Sure gonna be a full lot once they put that house on it!
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I don't remember what the house looked like that they demo'ed to make way for the moved one, but it had an interesting carriage house.
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jt8
The creative individual has the capacity to free himself from the web of social pressures in which the rest of us are caught. He is capable of questioning the assumptions that the rest of us accept. -- John Gardner
Part of the reason they are trying to save this brick house is certain links it has to another person. It will be in close proximity to his house.
I've got the other house circled on this shot
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And here is a clear shot of that other house. It gets thousands of visitors each year.
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An' it's only a few block North of Mom's house, used to walk past all those places - Spfld nice place in those days, no worry letting a 5 YO walk 2 miles home from 1st grade.
Times hae changed.
Shoot, I just wanna find out how I can get other people to pay for my house renovations! And to think all this time I've been paying out of my own pocket. Always knew I was a fool!
An' it's only a few block North of Mom's house, used to walk past all those places - Spfld nice place in those days, no worry letting a 5 YO walk 2 miles home from 1st grade.
That is true even in the safer small towns around here. Just too many crazy people wandering around that you can't feel comfortable letting the kids wander too far. And I SURE wouldn't want to let 'em wander in your Mom's neighborhood. I'm not sure that it has hit bottom yet.
jt8
The creative individual has the capacity to free himself from the web of social pressures in which the rest of us are caught. He is capable of questioning the assumptions that the rest of us accept. -- John Gardner
But I will say that houses are VERY affordable in that area
1818 11TH S Springfield, IL 62703
$5,500
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http://www.realtor.com/search/listingdetail.aspx?loc=springfield%2cIL&sby=1&sid=bd3cc1c762f743828d0cb7327e2a54fd&lid=1103206535&lsn=4&srcnt=1182
jt8
The creative individual has the capacity to free himself from the web of social pressures in which the rest of us are caught. He is capable of questioning the assumptions that the rest of us accept. -- John Gardner
I wonder what the house mover would charge to move that. (Well we know what it would cost in one county in KY)
Did Lincoln once sleep there?
The mark of the immature man is that he wants to die nobly for a cause, while the mark of a mature man is that he wants to live humbly for one. --Wilhelm Stekel
Maybe he once tied up his horse to the tree out front.
jt8
The creative individual has the capacity to free himself from the web of social pressures in which the rest of us are caught. He is capable of questioning the assumptions that the rest of us accept. -- John Gardner
John
Thanks for the pics of the house move. That was fun to look thru.
I don't want to hijack your thread. But I found some pics of the barn move.
Rich
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I don't want to hijack your thread. But I found some pics of the barn move.
I think we can stretch "House Movers" to include any building. Those are neat pics. Looks like they stored silage in the middle. Always nice to see them save a building rather than tearing it down. Around here, the barn would probably be allowed to fall down and/or burned.
Got any more?
jt8
The creative individual has the capacity to free himself from the web of social pressures in which the rest of us are caught. He is capable of questioning the assumptions that the rest of us accept. -- John Gardner
john
Hijacking threads is common practice here at BT. It's what makes some threads really interesting. Glad you didn't mind.
I was impressed to see the moving of that brick house. There did not appear to much mortar between some of the bricks in the lower courses.
Yeah, I've got more pics of the barn moveing and with the guys shingling it. Both are pretty interesting. I try to post some more. I have to scan them 1st, and tonight I have a BD party to go to 1st.
Rich
John
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Rich,
Great pics, looks like a 50's Sci-Fi movie, though those early 80's haircuts look quite old now too. Is that in the Ice Cream capital!
TGNY
Is that in the Ice Cream capital!
No. The Ice Cream Capital is several big manufacturing facilities.
They have a visitors center and museum out on the highway.
The round barn used to be on the west edge of town. The fair board bought it and moved it to the fairgrounds on the east side of town rather than let it be torn down.
Now it is the anchor and the symbol of the fair. The ag fair is a 5 day event with 20K - 25k people per night. Several stages of entertainment, cheap good food, tractor pull, demolition derby, rodeo and the F-H kids show off their projects.
The rafters are made of bent 1x4's.
Rich
TGNY
One more pic of the inside of the barn.
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Amazing, thanks. Did you take those pictures?
TGNY
No. The pictures were taken by the local newspaper photographer on vacation. He and his wife the editor spent the whole day following the move and documenting it and it was published in a little wire bound book. I found it at the library.
I have worked for the editor and I have seen the pictures in her house and around town. We have alot of local museum buffs around.
Rich
Rich,IIRC you used to live in Brooklyn, did you see the theater that was moved in Times Square about 10 years ago? I posted a link at the top of this thread.
"Part of the reason they are trying to save this brick house is certain links it has to another person."Lincoln's house?
Jon Blakemore RappahannockINC.com Fredericksburg, VA
yesjt8
The creative individual has the capacity to free himself from the web of social pressures in which the rest of us are caught. He is capable of questioning the assumptions that the rest of us accept. -- John Gardner
John, I have no pictures but.
Several yrs ago a development of townhouses on the River on the edge of Downtown Toledo faced demo. They weren't but a couple yrs old. The land was being given to Owens Corning.....Illinois (one of em) to build their world headqtrs.
I suggested to one of the owners that they should contact HFH and see if they couldn't salvage them out-at least the fixtures/windows/doors........thus rcving a writeoff or something for their trouble (being booted from some prime riverfront property).
That discussion led to them selling them to a developer up at Marblehead (shore community in sight of Cedar Point (amusement park)). They disconnected them, moved them to the waters edge, loaded them on barges and floated them to Marblehead where they reinstalled them.
Not the biggest deal for sure in moving, but to me quite a feat.
Damn, wished I had gotten the time off, the camera and whatever else to just have gotten a few shots of that.A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.
Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
http://www.quittintime.com/
Dang !! And there goes some more of my childhood memories of MH as the "country ". Parents built a cottage on the bay side in 1951-2. Total of 5 places on one road back then, last time I visited the area looked like a mini-city.
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
I got to build a screen door for a house overlooking a stone pt-just might be the thing why they call it marblehead. I guess this new house (old cottage burned down) is in the Cliffs "community". Down a private lane that leads to the water. Enter at the state park-go up and over a hill to the lane. VERY nice home-won a design award for the architect, but no screen door.A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.
Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
http://www.quittintime.com/
"Stone pt"?
"stone pit"? or "stone point"? My memory is that the area was settled by families from the Marblehead Mass. area and hence the name.
It sounds as if you were working on the north side of the peninsula. Maybe up near East Harbor State Park?
Our place was off the Bay Shore rd. on the south (Bay) side, directly across from Sandusky and Johnson's Island and just west of what was called "Sand Point" at the time (Sand Point is opposite Cedar Point). To get to the towns of Marblehead and Lakeside we drove through the quarry.
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
A large stone outcropping that blocked the view of cedar pt.
When I left the place and took a right-I traveled the road along the water called the cliffs. Might have been east harbor park where I turned. There was a boat launch site on the water side of the road and a small state park (parking and changing room) on the other side.
The community was gated and up a road from the park.
Many of the houses/cottages were older, but like you say-a whole of recent builds.A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.
Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
http://www.quittintime.com/
Be guessing you were working in the area called Catawba Point or Island. There is a State park there I know that has a boat ramp and along the shore there were a number of old stone houses and cottages perched on a rock cliff at the waters edge. North shore area of the peninsula. From Sandusky we would cross the old rt 2/6 bridge and then turn east , could drive along the Bay Shore rd. all the way around the peninsula and end up at the base of the road that runs up to the Bass Islands and Put-In-Bay. (Used to be a small airfield there that they flew Ford Tri-Motors out of to service the Islands) There was only one place along that south shore road that had some cliffs and IIRC there was a very small state park and boat ramp just past the cliffs and on the right. The rest of the way the Bay Shore rd ran close to the water and all the land was pretty gently sloping down to the waters edge. The quarry occupied the whole center of the peninsula in the area our place was in and one either drove around it ( and past the old light house) or through it to get to the north shore where Marblehead/Lakeside , etc were. Man I can close my eyes and still see all those places after 40 years of not spending summers out there!
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
I'm sure you wouldn't recognize it now.A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.
Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
http://www.quittintime.com/
Yea , I am sure you are right about that.
No stopping progress and growth.
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
Yea , I am sure you are right about that.No stopping progress and growth.
The small town where my project house is located seems to think growth is a religion. They have gone from 3-4k people to well over 10k in less than 10 years. Article in the paper yesterday, the mayor or one of those village officials was bragging that the high school enrollment had jumped 40% in the last 3 or 4 years and was expected to jump another 40% in the next 3 or 4.
Personally I don't see what all the attraction to unrestricted growth is. What is wrong with a small, cozy town?
jt8
The creative individual has the capacity to free himself from the web of social pressures in which the rest of us are caught. He is capable of questioning the assumptions that the rest of us accept. -- John Gardner
Local government tends to be most responsive to local businesses, and businesses prefer growth. Until, that is, growth requires a tax increase for new roads, new sewage plants, new schools, etc -- then suddenly they don't comprehend why things have to change.
The mark of the immature man is that he wants to die nobly for a cause, while the mark of a mature man is that he wants to live humbly for one. --Wilhelm Stekel
Yeah, they just got through a massive water works project which the town wouldn't need if the crazy growth slacked off. So all the current residents are paying for the future residents to move in.
jt8
The creative individual has the capacity to free himself from the web of social pressures in which the rest of us are caught. He is capable of questioning the assumptions that the rest of us accept. -- John Gardner
Well, wanted a first hand look, so walked around the house parked in the middle of Jackson st. yesterday after church. On way betwween Rockford and ABQ.
What a boondoggle, owner must be in bed with Mayor.
You are right, gotta now the right people to get somebody else (taxpayer) to pay for your mistakes.
Looks like house was totally gutted, no interior woodwork, many windows broken, back door converter to big box special sometime in past, etc.
Hole in ground next door looks like typical mushy IL clay, heck, the lost time on the big trackhoe sitting there is a big cost. I could dig the foundation in just a few hours with that big idle trackhoe.
Brother has salvaged a few similar houses in spfld, not much left.
Best bet would be for the trackhoe to knock that mess down and sell the bricks.
I still haven't figure out how the foundation can cost $280k.
jt8
The creative individual has the capacity to free himself from the web of social pressures in which the rest of us are caught. He is capable of questioning the assumptions that the rest of us accept. -- John Gardner
how the foundation can cost $280k
Other than outright graft, best I could guess looking at it was that some historic preservation rules or some such require 50 ft deep pilings.
Recall when the state office building that houses the state museum was built in the early 60's there were many pilings about 60 ft deep - went thru 5 or 6 coal seams and empty coal shafts to get to relative stable basing.
For all I know, the lot may be right over a mined out coal seam.
Also, looked like the basement window framing was being moved, so all that fitwork, a few thou extra only.
Brother says the same job in Leland Grove would be about $20K for same size house move.
Ron: Did a quick drive thru from Rockford meeting Friday, spent Saturday doing plumbing and other repairs at Mom's, winterizing, etc; left for ORD 11AM Sunday.
Didn't know that you were in town, or I would have tried to make the trip up to visit.
The hardest thing to understand in the world is the income tax. [Albert Einstein]
Cool thread, house moving has always fascinated me. There is a lot of house moving in the Hamptons on Long Island, check this firm out, they are the preeminent firm out here: http://www.davisbuildingmovers.com/
Also another interesting move was the Empire Theater in Times Square about ten years ago:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/elswatchoboracho/2860258116/
February 28, 1998
The Theater's on a Roll, Gliding Down 42d Street; Fast-Moving Times Square Revitalization Leaves No Stone or Building Unturned
By JOHN HOLUSHA
Tomorrow, a theater weighing 7.4 million pounds will be rolled down 42d Street. The engineers who arranged the trip say that it is no big deal.
''The building does not know it is being moved,'' said Anthony J. Mazzo, a senior vice president of Urban Foundation/Engineering, the Queens company whose task it is to make sure the building remains blissfully unaware of the upheaval.
While everyone involved in the project thinks that the Empire Theater will be the largest structure ever moved in New York City, transporting big buildings is not unheard of elsewhere. And Mr. Mazzo said the method would be essentially the same for a smaller building.
Still, 85-year-old theaters are not moved every day. The decision to send the Empire approximately 170 feet down the road reflects the unique status of Times Square, where the pull of the old and the promise of the new are constantly colliding these days.
When the south side of 42d Street between Seventh and Eighth Avenues was scheduled for redevelopment, landmark laws and state guidelines were already protecting the historic theaters that line the block: the Empire, the New Amsterdam, the Harris and the Liberty. The Disney Company has restored the New Amsterdam, where ''The Lion King'' is now playing. The facade and bulk of the Liberty will be preserved for a still-undetermined use.
As for the Empire, the developer Bruce C. Ratner wanted to build a 25-screen cinema using the facade and its grand interior for entrance.
But Mr. Ratner and his company, Forest City Ratner, were also planning to include a Madame Tussaud's Wax Museum on the eastern side of the project, which would incorporate the facade of the Harris Theater. To incorporate another ornamental entrance at the other end, Mr. Ratner proposed moving the Empire to the western side of the project.
As a practical matter, engineers said it would be easier to move the whole building than to take out parts of the old one and incorporate them in a new structure, as was done across the street with the new Ford Center theater.
In a place as crowded as Manhattan, where maneuvering a 150-pound office worker down the block to the deli can be a major undertaking, it is rare to relocate buildings; most of the time, old buildings are simply demolished to make way for the new. But in other areas, moving structures, even big ones, is not unusual. Lighthouses have been moved to keep them from toppling into the sea, and historic churches have been shifted to make way for new development.
In any case, moving buildings is an exacting task, and the Empire project did pose its share of obstacles. For example, bedrock is close to the surface in much of the Times Square area; just across the street from the Empire, contractors have been at work for months hammering out that rock to prepare a basement for a new entertainment and retail development.
But because the current theater district was built on lots that had been residential at the turn of the century, the Empire sits on ground previously occupied by town houses with basements. Piles had to be driven along the route of the transfer, so that the weight of the Empire would be carried by the bedrock supporting Manhattan's skyscrapers, rather than the loose dirt filling the old holes. Tracks were laid over the piles.
''Essentially, we have constructed a temporary steel bridge founded on rock to support the building during its transfer,'' Mr. Mazzo said. Many of those piles will have to be pulled out once the Empire is in its new location to make way for the retail space.
The theater was rigidly braced so that it would not twist or become deformed during the move. Hydraulic jacks mounted on the eight steel tracks have lifted the building one-eighth of an inch onto steel rollers.
No one is planning to rush the job: the jacks will push the theater five feet in about five minutes and will then be repositioned for another push. Tomorrow's move is expected to take five to six hours, starting at 7:30 A.M.
The theater had actually been lifted onto the rails and ready to roll for over a week, but city officials decided to push back the original moving day, Feb. 17, until a weekend day, when the street could be closed to minimize the chance of injuries if something should go awry. Just to be sure everything would go according to plan on the big day, eastbound traffic on 42d Street was stopped last Sunday, and engineers moved the building 30 feet to see if everything worked. It did.
The police said 42d Street would again be closed at least to eastbound traffic tomorrow, but passers-by on Eighth Avenue should get a good view of the action.
Once at its new location, the Empire will be touched up and incorporated as the ticket lobby. When the new cinema building opens next spring, an escalator will carry moviegoers up through the proscenium of the old theater to the 25 theaters.
Even before its dance down 42d Street, the Empire had a colorful past. It was known at the Eltinge when it opened in 1912, named after Julian Eltinge, an actor who was famous for playing female roles. In its early years, the Eltinge specialized in light comedies, with Laurence Olivier and Clark Gable among the featured performers. But during the Depression, its theater bills gave way to burlesque and, after the city shut that down, to second-run films. The name changed to the Empire in 1954.
When the theater arrives at its new home around 1 P.M. tomorrow, it is expected to be greeted by a crowd of dignitaries including Gov. George E. Pataki. And because the comedy team of Bud Abbott and Lou Costello supposedly first met at the Empire in 1931, the developer has arranged for a pair of 30-foot-high Bud and Lou balloons to lead the building to its new home.
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john
Back in 1981 this barn was moved across town. Actually they went out of town about 2 miles and then back in. I look around and see if I can find some moving pictures.
Rich
View Image LeMars, Iowa - In 1919 this true round barn was built by Peter Tonsfeldt on the West edge of Lemars, Iowa to show his purebred livestock and prized polled Hereford bull named "Ito's Perfection" thinking his new breed of cattle would revolutionize the livestock industry. Unfortunately, due to post war ag price collapses, Tonsfeldts lost his farm. In 1980 the barn was put up for auction and the buyers gave it to the Plymouth County Fair Board. Public pledges helped pay for the moving and repair of the barn an in September 1981 the barn was moved to the Plymouth County Fairgrounds on the East side of Lemars, Iowa.