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house on piles

silvertip | Posted in Photo Gallery on April 19, 2008 05:49am

My lates project.  Old house kinda split in half so they leveled it and now they are putting the new house on 49 piles,  deepest pile 80′ deep.  On top of the pile is a concrete cap 2′ square 18″ deep.  The on top of the pile caps are grade beams that basically connect all piles together and then on top of the grade beams is a 7″ deep slab and then comes the foundation walls.  Post more pictures soon and I will resize these too.


Edited 4/19/2008 11:00 am ET by silvertip

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  1. DougU | Apr 19, 2008 06:11pm | #1

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    Looks like a cool project but could you give us a little geography lesson here and tell us where the hell you're at!

    Doug



    Edited 4/19/2008 11:11 am ET by DougU

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      BarryE | Apr 20, 2008 04:30am | #11

      red zonemust be in cornhusker country <G>

      Barry E-Remodeler

       

      1. DougU | Apr 20, 2008 06:00pm | #12

        I've been through Nebraska, they aint got any hills like that!

        Must be a secrete location.

        Doug

        1. dovetail97128 | Apr 20, 2008 06:38pm | #13

          I am guessing the Cascade range of the PNW.
          They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.

          1. DougU | Apr 20, 2008 06:49pm | #14

            The location was probably reveled in post #4.

            Doug

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            Luka | Apr 20, 2008 08:35pm | #16

            And then someone was killed and the post deleted...


            Politics: the blind insulting the blind.

            Click here for access to the Woodshed Tavern

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          BarryE | Apr 20, 2008 07:17pm | #15

          what, never been to the Sand Hills <g>figured it wasn't Nebraska...maybe it's the red zone in Baghdad

          Barry E-Remodeler

           

          1. brucet9 | Apr 24, 2008 09:35am | #44

            "what, never been to the Sand Hills?"You thinking of Long Pine, maybe? Perhaps he won't say because it's on protected land along the Niobrara.BruceT

            Edited 4/24/2008 2:38 am by brucet9

  2. dovetail97128 | Apr 19, 2008 06:13pm | #2

    Why piles in those hills and where are the hills?

    Pictures have me curious.

    They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
    1. silvertip | Apr 19, 2008 06:43pm | #3

      The house is built in what they have called the red zone.  Basically the soil is ####.  There are several areas around the city that are like that.  The owner has a large piece of property and likes the area so he decided to rebuild on it.  The old house like I say sank 2" on two opposite sides.  Basically started to split in half.  The price of land here makes it economical to put it  on piles.  Lots now are around 140 k for a very small lot.  So if you can get one one these lots for around 30k and put it on piles for another 100 k why not.  Which these lots are about double what a 140 k lot would be.

      1. silvertip | Apr 19, 2008 06:51pm | #5

        More pics.  Poured the pile caps yesterday will post pics when I get a chance.

        Edited 4/19/2008 11:52 am ET by silvertip

        1. Henley | Apr 19, 2008 07:58pm | #7

          Well, that soil looks like it drains pretty good.
          You ought to ace the perk test.

      2. DougU | Apr 19, 2008 11:55pm | #8

        The house is built in what they have called the red zone.

        And pray tell, where is that red zone located?

        We dont need the address but maybe the state!

        Doug

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      IMERC | Apr 19, 2008 06:48pm | #4

      okay I gotta say it....

      make sure there's preperation H in the tool kit... 

      Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

      WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

      1. dovetail97128 | Apr 19, 2008 07:08pm | #6

        Set that one up didn't I !! LOL
        They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.

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          CapnMac | Apr 20, 2008 02:04am | #9

          Set that one up didn't I

          OP helped with the terminology choice.

          I was trying to picture how to set a pile driver for an 80' (seven story) driven pile.

          Doug's pictures helped me get pile = drilled pier half set in my brain.

          What surprises me is that the piers are being capped, but not with a slurry wall between them to create a base for the rest of the foundation work.  But, that's something we do here in town for commercial projects.Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)

          1. KenHill3 | Apr 20, 2008 02:14am | #10

            Auger-cast piles?

          2. KaneoheBay | Apr 20, 2008 09:21pm | #17

            Cast piles are made in shorter lengths, 40'?, and joined together while being driven with splice cans. The cans are installed when the first pile about 5' from ground level and the succeeding pile is installed in the can and the driver is placed over the second pile. That way, piles can reach lengths of more than a hundred feet. All connected with splice cans.

          3. silvertip | Apr 23, 2008 05:27am | #18

            Pictures of pile caps formed and pour.  Now onto backfilling to top of pile caps and then start of grade beams

          4. silvertip | Apr 23, 2008 05:37am | #19

            Almost all backfilled onto the next phase of grade beams

          5. DavidxDoud | Apr 23, 2008 05:43am | #20

            please, oh please - share a general geographical location with us - a state would be fine...."there's enough for everyone"

          6. DavidxDoud | Apr 23, 2008 05:50am | #21

            it's Wyoming, isn't it? - - "there's enough for everyone"

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            davidhawks | Apr 23, 2008 06:05am | #22

            I'm guessing Nevada.The best reward for a job well done is the opportunity to do another.

          8. Ebe | Apr 23, 2008 07:07am | #23

            I am going to throw out a wild guess and say Colorado due to the land values?

             

            Edited 4/23/2008 12:08 am by Ebe

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            IMERC | Apr 23, 2008 07:11am | #25

            maybe tight to the front range but highly unlikely... 

            Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

            WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

          10. Ebe | Apr 23, 2008 07:51am | #26

            perhaps Utah?

          11. butcher | Apr 23, 2008 04:20pm | #27

            Eastern Washington state I think

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            IMERC | Apr 23, 2008 04:24pm | #28

            cpold be Montanna too... 

            Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

            WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

          13. DougU | Apr 24, 2008 04:45am | #34

            Could be a lot of places but why the hell doesn't Silver give it up? If its that big a secret then why is he even posting the pics?

            Doug

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            IMERC | Apr 24, 2008 04:50am | #35

            no clue... 

            Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

            WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

          15. silvertip | Apr 24, 2008 05:36am | #36

            LMAO, you guys are too funny.  Mulder told me not to tell you guys.  All I can say is think outside the box.  Curious though why location makes a difference.  My post wasn't can you guess where this is.  Yes I will keep posting till the house is done.  I promise to give you hints as to where it is.  Who ever gets it right wins the boobie prize.   

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            IMERC | Apr 24, 2008 06:02am | #37

            boobie... best be a boobie we can appreciate and nort a bob... 

            Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

            WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

          17. dovetail97128 | Apr 24, 2008 07:07am | #39

            ""All I can say is think outside the box."" Mitchell S.D. ? ;-)
            They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.

          18. user-54383 | Apr 24, 2008 07:14am | #40

            >>Mitchell S.D. ?You see something in those pictures I didn't, i.e. corn -- an onion dome covered in corn, aka a "corn palace"?

          19. dovetail97128 | Apr 24, 2008 07:35am | #41

            Naw, Just the city with the flattest landscape I could think of offhand.

            ;-)
            They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.

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            jase | Apr 24, 2008 07:59am | #42

            Edit: I tried to link to a clue but it didn't work correctly. Find message 91837.20

            Edited 4/24/2008 1:02 am by jase

          21. Engineerguy | Apr 24, 2008 09:11am | #43

            I slept in Scully's bed. 

            And she told me to look towards Kelowna, BC.

             

              

            Impossible is an opinion.

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            FatRoman | Apr 24, 2008 03:33pm | #45

            Colorado Front Range
            http://csfs.colostate.edu/library/pdfs/fire/mitigation/Red_Zone_map.pdf'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb

          23. silvertip | Apr 27, 2008 01:43am | #46

            Got all my forming done.  Few loose ends to tidy up monday morning then pour.  This is all the grade beams in the house and after they are poured it is onto the slab which I have scheduled for a Friday pour.

          24. Ebe | Apr 24, 2008 02:33am | #31

            It must be in area 51.  I am sure that is it if it is that big of a secret.

          25. dockelly | Apr 24, 2008 03:42am | #32

            Checked his profile, only 33 posts since 2005. HMMMM! Mysterious location. HMMMM! Putting concrete caps on pilings when the pilings themselves would have been enough. HMMMM! Not answering any direct questions as to location. I got it, went to lunch with Luka, never heard from again.

          26. stevent1 | Apr 24, 2008 04:03am | #33

            WPP

            ie: witness protection program

             

            Chuck Slive, work, build, ...better with wood

          27. Ebe | Apr 24, 2008 07:02am | #38

            maybe he buried him in the pilings?

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            davidhawks | Apr 29, 2008 11:38pm | #47

            See if you can zoom in on that license plate.

             

             

            View ImageThe best reward for a job well done is the opportunity to do another.

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            Sphere | Apr 30, 2008 12:47am | #48

            My Money is on British Columbia.  That soil, and those hills..yup.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

            "Welcome to Poo-ville, can I have your socks?Seriously Folks, I need a home for 3 lovers of your life.

          30. silvertip | Apr 30, 2008 03:53am | #49

            You guys are to funny and yes engineer guy has it right.  Now the mystery has been solved.  Have all the grade beams poured and back filled and now onto the slab which will be Friday.  Finally be out of the ground then onto to framing next  week.  To bad all my hard work so far you never will see.

          31. Engineerguy | Apr 30, 2008 10:37am | #50

            Woot!

            Been to Kelwona a couple of times to see the Rockets play.  Does Hamilton still own them?  They were the Tacoma Rockets originally.

            So I am familiar with the terrain.  Also have relatives that live on the US side of the Okanogon Valley.

            Great wine country too.  Had a wine from there that was exceptional.

            Back to the subject at hand.  Nice project. 

            Can you give us some more details.  How many floors, square footage.

            Also, with the fires you had up that way several years ago, has the code been tightened, similiar to what San Diego did, to minimize wild fire damage to houses?

            Leland  

            Impossible is an opinion.

          32. silvertip | May 02, 2008 04:00am | #51

            Thanks,  I am actually east and north of kelowna by 2 hours.  The house is 2 stories and about 2700 per floor.  It will be  around a million for the house.  They have really tightened buiding code with the forest fires now your house has to be sprinklered and have a big enough area for a fire truck to turn around.  That is in any rural area.  Adds a fair chunk of change to the cost of the house.

          33. silvertip | May 02, 2008 04:21am | #52

            Here are pics of the rebar.  Tommorw is the big pour about 60 cu yards.

          34. silvertip | May 08, 2008 02:57am | #53

            Here are more pics of the forming.  Rebar guys are giving me the run around on what time they can show up.  A week notice I think is more than adequate.

            Edited 5/7/2008 8:00 pm ET by silvertip

            Edited 5/10/2008 7:38 pm ET by silvertip

          35. silvertip | May 17, 2008 03:47am | #54

            finally got the walls poured and stripped and now onto framing.

            Edited 5/16/2008 9:04 pm ET by silvertip

          36. MSLiechty | Apr 23, 2008 08:24pm | #29

            I say Vegas!ML

          37. sharpblade | Apr 24, 2008 12:16am | #30

            silvertip oblivious to all your requests for location.

            He keeps firing up new posts with pics.

          38. dovetail97128 | Apr 23, 2008 07:09am | #24

            Last set of pics have me changing my mind on the PNW. Wrong soils and not anywhere near enough trees for the Cascades.
            They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.

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