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   Hazlett | Apr 26, 2008 09:07pm | #1

   best to ask plumbbill,
   but---it sure looks like there is a special tool intended to fit exactly in those four slots doesn't it???
   stephen

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   MSA1 | Apr 26, 2008 09:14pm | #2

   Spanner wrench.

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   KFC | Apr 26, 2008 10:11pm | #3

   If you can't locate the original tool, maybe you could set a piece of rod or bar in two of the grooves and use a water main key to crank on it?

   k

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   MarkH | Apr 27, 2008 01:34am | #11

   You could get something like this. http://www.perfectoproducts.net/index.php?page=floor-drain-wrench

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   KFC | Apr 27, 2008 02:31am | #14

   Hey now, that's the exact tool!  OP- did you hit MarkH's link?

   "Floor drain wrench with four tabs"

   Ask and ye shall receive...

   k

   nice one, Mark. 

   probably take 6-8 weeks for delivery, though.

   Edited 4/26/2008 7:36 pm ET by KFC

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   MarkH | Apr 27, 2008 03:47am | #15

   I'm not sure it's the right size. I'd probably get a cross piece and grind a socket to fit over it, use a cheater bar to break something off.

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   DanH | Apr 27, 2008 04:01am | #16

   Would be nice if they had any dealers.
   What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the will to find out, which is the exact opposite. --Bertrand Russell

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   MarkH | Apr 27, 2008 05:54am | #19

   >>>Would be nice if they had any dealers.http://www.perfectoproducts.net/index.php?page=dealer-locator

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   DanH | Apr 27, 2008 06:21am | #20

   Tried that -- no dealers listed in all of Minnesota.
   What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the will to find out, which is the exact opposite. --Bertrand Russell

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   MarkH | Apr 27, 2008 06:37am | #21

   They had a link to contact them directly, give them a call, maybe they will sell directly what you want.

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   Sphere | Apr 26, 2008 10:31pm | #4

   I'd try a cold chisel and a hammer, gently tap it using the lugs for a purchase. But, I ain't a plumber.

   Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

   "Welcome to Poo-ville, can I have your socks?
   Seriously Folks, I need a home for 3 lovers of your life.

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   cmiltier | Apr 26, 2008 10:34pm | #5

   That is exactly what I would do. Then it would break and I would cus a little and try the next one, #### that one broke too. I would end up with the sawzall.

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   Sphere | Apr 26, 2008 11:08pm | #7

   Ya think we'd a learned not to do that by now huh?  But Nooooooo.."hand me a bigger hammer." LOLSpheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

   "Welcome to Poo-ville, can I have your socks?Seriously Folks, I need a home for 3 lovers of your life.

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   JeffBuck | Apr 27, 2008 01:04am | #9

   don't forget to catch the PB blaster on fire from the torch first ...

    

   Jeff    Buck Construction

    Artistry In Carpentry

        Pittsburgh Pa

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   Scott | Apr 26, 2008 10:50pm | #6

   Piece of heavy flat stock steel and a large crescent wrench?

   Scott.

   Always remember those first immortal words that Adam said to Eve, “You’d better stand back, I don’t know how big this thing’s going to get.”

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   andyfew322 | Apr 26, 2008 11:13pm | #8

   TNT?

    

   Look ma, no jigs!!!

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   MisterT | Apr 27, 2008 03:38pm | #25

   the correct answer here is....NAPALM!!!.
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   "After the laws of Physics, everything else is opinion" -Neil deGrasse Tyson
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   If Pasta and Antipasta meet is it the end of the Universe???

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   MarkH | Apr 27, 2008 03:53pm | #26

   Or TAMPONS

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   bobtim | Apr 27, 2008 05:59pm | #28

   I know yer joking, but you don't know how correct you really are. 

   All fish processers use big 3'x3' x3' plastic containers called totes. Most of them have a little hole in the bottom for drainage. They come with nice insertable plugs that manage to get lost all the time. Guess what is used when no factory plugs can be found?

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   Sphere | Apr 27, 2008 06:00pm | #29

   Ya hadda say fish dintja?Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

   "Welcome to Poo-ville, can I have your socks?Seriously Folks, I need a home for 3 lovers of your life.

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   MisterT | Apr 28, 2008 02:19am | #30

   I can see this thread getting yanked....
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   "After the laws of Physics, everything else is opinion" -Neil deGrasse Tyson
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   If Pasta and Antipasta meet is it the end of the Universe???

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   Sphere | Apr 28, 2008 02:22am | #31

   Usually by the string.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

   "Welcome to Poo-ville, can I have your socks?Seriously Folks, I need a home for 3 lovers of your life.

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   notagain | Apr 27, 2008 01:32am | #10

   I'd try a wrench made for taking axle bearings out. A Ford or a Chevy might do it. I'm not sure what it's called but I've got 2 of them in the garage. They're made for working on 4 wheel drive hubs.
   Rod

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   popawheelie | Apr 27, 2008 02:07am | #12

   You can make one from a sheet of something that will fit in the slots. You probably only need to engage two of the slots. Are the a 1/4" wide?

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   plumbbill | Apr 27, 2008 02:14am | #13

   There is a "special tool" & we rarely have the "special tool" needed for each application.

   We usually fabricate a tool every time when we run into this & similar situations.

   Hammer & chisel is one way, but if you can't get a good angle you end up spitting into the wind.

   So fabricating a tool depends on what you have at your disposal.

   Flat stock, crescent wrench, & a wrench to crank on the handle of the crescent is the simplest.

   Is the pipe 1.5" or 2"

   We usually take the next size smaller pipe that will fit into the open & drill & tap 1/4 x 20 threads every 90 degrees so the bolts fit into the slots.

   It will want to bend the bolts so we usually screw the bolts from the outside in so that the head of the bolt will catch the outside of the fitting. Then we crank on that pipe with a pipe wrench.

   Penetrating lube first is the biggest part of breaking it free, also a good shock to the fitting will help break the rust seal.

   “The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing.” —Albert Einstein
   

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    wallyo | Apr 27, 2008 04:57am | #17

    Maybe what should be asked is why do you want to get it out? To clean a clog you want to unscrew the bypass plug on the side the 1 1/2" or so>

    Wallyo

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   GotAll10 | Apr 27, 2008 05:47am | #18

   I want to get it out so I can screw a plug in it when it rains a lot.  The sewer backs up and I am sick of the whine of the shop vac.  The plastic ball valve is 99% effective, but 1% of a lot of water is still a lot of water.

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   wallyo | Apr 27, 2008 07:34am | #22

   Will an rubber expandable plug fit over the ball? I know the drains are weird in sizing but may be an option. Before trying to undo it if you go that route soak it with oil in advance a couple of days.Wallyo

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   GotAll10 | Apr 27, 2008 03:29pm | #23

   It is soaking in WD-40 now.

   This ID is 2 3/8 inches.  Just bigger than any 2 inch plug that I can find will fit.  I had the same problem with a 3 3/4 inch ID drain.  Got creative with  a 4 inch plug, a needle and thread, inner tube rubber, and rubber cement.  Works so far.  I'd send a picture but I'm afraid to touch it.

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   Sphere | Apr 27, 2008 03:34pm | #24

   Jam a test balloon in it and inflate it to plug it up.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

   "Welcome to Poo-ville, can I have your socks?Seriously Folks, I need a home for 3 lovers of your life.

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   Svenny | Apr 28, 2008 02:34am | #32

   You've got to watch about plugging a drain to stop back up. That back up is going to go somewhere, probably up the soil pipe until it is at the same elevation as the source. May not be a problem, then again........Try using a rubber plug-the kind you tighten with a wing nut. That's what I use on commercial roof drains to keep debris out of them, or to keep water out if we're working on the drain pipe below. It's a simple matter to remove if it becomes unnecessary or if you need to use the drain.John Svenson, builder,  remodeler,  NE Ohio

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   Luka | Apr 28, 2008 02:46am | #33

   Don't remove that plug !!!!That's Pandora's plug !I hope I stopped you in time.Oh the horror !

   
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   MikeHennessy | Apr 28, 2008 02:23pm | #34

   "I want to get it out so I can screw a plug in it when it rains a lot. "

   If it gets to be too much trouble to loosen it, you might wanna try an expandable or inflatable pressure test cap. Probably less hassle.

   Mike HennessyPittsburgh, PA

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   DanH | Apr 28, 2008 04:26pm | #35

   Problem is, without getting the ring out there's no way that any sort of plug can be used. I have the same deal and the same problem -- the ring holds in a plastic ball that is the active part of a valve (with the valve seat being attached to the bottom of the ring). Because of the depth of the drain "bowl", there's no way to get decent purchase on the ring with a cold chisel to work it around that way.
   What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the will to find out, which is the exact opposite. --Bertrand Russell

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    PeteDraganic | Apr 27, 2008 04:30pm | #27

    Use an old framing square.  One end to span two slots and then the other end to act as a handle.

    Spay it down good first with Pblaster

     

    I refuse to accept that there are limitations to what we can accomplish.        Pete Draganic