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How do I locate tub filler controls and spout at opposite ends of my soaking tub?

mwgaines | Posted in General Discussion on January 9, 2011 09:06am

Greetings everyone,

I will soon be building a tub deck around my Jacuzzi soaking tub and I’d like to install the plumbing fixtures for maximum convenience. I’d prefer to have the handles and hand shower on one end of the tub and the spout at the other. I haven’t purchased the fixtures yet because I’m not sure about the configuration and connection requirements. Is this hard to do? Will the addition of a hand shower complicate things? I’ll be doing my own work, so I’m trying to plan accordingly.

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

Michael

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  1. harryv | Jan 09, 2011 10:09pm | #1

    Locations

    Michael,

    It is not difficult, just requires planning. Your fixtures may dictate location due to their size and clearences. This should not be a problem since you have not yet purchased fixtures. Pay close attention to your selections, you can look up the specs on most valves/spouts to see how they connect. Should be doable with over the counter parts.

    Good Luck,

    HV

  2. mwgaines | Jan 10, 2011 09:16am | #2

    Should I shop for a fixture that does "not" have an integral diverter valve in the spout? From what I've been able to figure out, that appears to be the most significant factor in this case.

    1. calvin | Jan 10, 2011 09:25am | #3

      Separate............

      Many fixture lines have a separate diverter control (matching) that you can install where you want, then purchase a matching spout without a diverter.

      This precludes you from buying a "complete" box from HD.

      1. mwgaines | Jan 10, 2011 10:54am | #4

        Thanks, Calvin. I was coming to the conclusion that there must be a specific component incorporated to facilitate the connection between the valves that are distantly separated.

        1. calvin | Jan 10, 2011 11:34am | #5

          Yup

          The diverter would be separate-a knob on many, some have a lever...............imagine there's even a button style for mo-money.

          Where you put em is your bizness.  Should be a soldering fool by the time you get done.............if pex-mounting would be the key I suppose.

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    xxPaulCPxx | Jan 10, 2011 12:50pm | #6

    The key here is to make sure you don't have enough restriction in your tub line to back up to your shower head - no matter what setting your diverter valve is set at.  You CAN NOT use 1/2" PEX from the diverter to the tub spout - the fittings are to narrow and will cause water to back up and flow out the shower head.  You need 1/2" inside diameter fittings, which is 1/2" copper or 3/4" PEX.

    I offset my tub spout to the wall corner instead of directly over the drain, as my wife and I occasionally like to soak together.  I made a little soap dish shelf and put the spout out from that.  For the drain lever, I switched it from the paddle switch to the round turning cable style.

    1. mwgaines | Jan 10, 2011 02:12pm | #7

      "I made a little soap dish shelf and put the spout out from that."

      I'd like to have my controls deck mounted and the spout wall mounted. However, if I do that, I'll have to also come up with some creative alteration that will blend in. The wall at the foot of the tub (where I want the spout to be) is set back about 11 inches.

      1. calvin | Jan 10, 2011 02:47pm | #8

        MW

        The wall at the foot of the tub (where I want the spout to be) is set back about 11 inches.

        Hunt up the spout if it's wall mounted b/4 you proceed too far-that's a healthy length from the edge of the tub.

      2. Clewless1 | Jan 11, 2011 08:50am | #10

        Maybe extend the wall a bit and create a shallow shelf while providing the extension you might need to bring the spout over the tub?

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        xxPaulCPxx | Jan 11, 2011 12:57pm | #13

        Take a look at the deck mounted fitures in a nice plumbing appliance store.  You will find that some of the tub spouts will pivot out of the way when not needed.  This way you can fill the tub then lie back without bonking into the spout.

        Another option - ceiling mount.  Kohler made a fancy laminar flow fixure (solid water column stream - no air or droplets) that was designed to drop water from above.

    2. mwgaines | Jan 11, 2011 08:47am | #9

      "The key here is to make sure

      "The key here is to make sure you don't have enough restriction in your tub line to back up to your shower head - no matter what setting your diverter valve is set at."

      Thanks for warning me about this.  I've since read about others having this exact problem. I would think this could also be avoided by using a dedicated (stand alone) diverter rather than a spout with the integral diverter. Is that a faulty assumption?

      1. DanH | Jan 11, 2011 09:44am | #11

        Either you need a true 2-way diverter valve, or you need to assure that the restriction from the point of the tee to the spout is minimized.  The diverter will just add more restriction.

        1. mwgaines | Jan 11, 2011 12:14pm | #12

          Ok, thanks Dan.

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