Absolutely do not tell anyone. The local Indian tribe or, if there is none, one from California will certainly spare no money forcing you to move your house and preserve the site for a future dig, at your expense and their convenience.
Keep you find to yourself and keep digging every now and then, maybe you’ll find something valuable and you could sell it on Ebay or Antique’s Road Show.
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Now you're probably supposed to shut the job down and call an archaeologist.
The last (only) big land deal I did we had an archeological survey done. A one acre area was declared off-limits for building because they found a tooth - right where surfers had been partying since the '50s. I suppose we could have had DNA done but who is to say it wasn't an indigenous surfer?
We have one of those issues local.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/howard/bal-te.md.cemetery31oct31,0,275134.story
Imperious Caesar, dead and turn'd to clay,
Might stop a hole to keep the wind away.
They're getting much more agressive in what messages they delete from this board. My message was deleted for no apparent reason, in fact messages 8-10 were taken out in one bold stroke. What's up, are we allowed to write messages or not? Soon there will be no need to have the discussion section at all, it's been deleted.How can those in charge here say there are 8 new messages when most of the new messages have been deleted? Must be a new hire with little skin for opinion.
Edited 11/17/2008 11:31 am by woodway
woodway... i 'm pretty sure the original poster deleted it as he no longer wanted the information publicMike Hussein Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
Maybe they're part of the newly elected politicians about to move into Wash DC.
Looked like broken clay tiles to me. Nope, no antiquities there, just sewer pipe.
Gotta disagree with you there. Laws about this stuff exist for a reason. Why would you not observe them?
what stuff? I missed the first post and full context here.
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Not sure what red dots are.PM me if that lets you be less cryptic.
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You got mail, kemosabee. LOL.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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Apparently he doesn't go into convenience stores when gets on the mainland.http://www.quittintime.com/ View Image
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or Dairy Queens!
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We have a home owner here who's house is built on top of one of the indian ceremonial burial mounds in south St Louis. There was an article in the local rag which said that he was looking for a buyer who would not dig up the mound.
Apparently, even though it is on the historic register, if you own it you can do what you like with it.
I guess laws are different all over.
I have an old Delaware (or Shawnee) burial site on my property. I could dig it up for goodies if I was a dope, but I'm afraid that I'll unleash a ghostly horde upon us. There were people who before I bought this turf swore they saw an old Indian walking these hills at night and refused to sleep in the old cabin.........I went up there and put some tobacco beneath the rocks and talked to the dude a bit....told him I wasn't like the rest of the white eyes...:)so far so good!My Blog
There is a federal law dealing with Indian graves and sites NAGRA, I believe it is called. It is a federal violation to dig up Indian graves.
Indeedy my yes.....
I believe it was in Smithsonian Mag. not too long back.....farmer who had been quietly digging up the odd indian artifact on his property decided to cash in & leased digging rights to some quick-buck souvener sellers....local LE noticed the backhoe, lots of holes, & things rapidly went downhill from there.
Quite agree. Although it's hard to get too excited about the presence of the more recent middens (sp?) as they are so common and usually are nothing but shells.
The shell middens here tell a lot about ancient history, and do contain some other items.It is not just native burial grounds that get lost or disrespected. My wife is chair of the cemetery committee here and does other research too. She has lots of stories of misplaced headstones and lost graves, abandoned burial plots, etc. One of the most common reasons is when a private burial spot goes untended because the desccendents all die or move away, and it does not get tneded. It can be almost toally lost in a generation with forest growing up around it. stones fal over and leaves cover them....One of the funnier stories that sticks in my mind is that back in the 20s or 30s, for some reason, somebody decided that a burial plot needed to be evacuated, so the town paid these 3-4 guys to dig up the bodies and replant them to an official cemetery.'course, that was hard work by hand, and it was coming on to winter, and the bottle of whiskey was not doing the job of keeping them motivated enough.So after moving a few bodies, they got the idea that just moving the headstones would be good enough. stir the soil a bit, transplant the stone, and get piad for the job....Story comes to you free via the now old daughter of one of the men doing that job.So now my wife wonders just where those actual remains are. The property is being developed for house lots now.
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As a surveyor, I was involved in several archeological evaluations and surveys in areas with middens (burned) which were rich in worked flint, mano matates, and other tool kits. Some of these were huge accumulations of several layers denoting many hundreds or even thousands of years of continuous habitation.
We'd usually be called out after the pot hunters had raided and dug holes all over. We's start by doing a complete topo and identifying any surface artifacts present with photos and a physical location. Sometimes a backhoe would come in and dig a test trench to the maximum depth and length of the midden, and the spoil sifted.
Usually these sites were eventually built over with any human remains being recovered, studied, and returned to the particular tribe that claimed them.
Road and bridge excavations were where most of the sites were discovered. We have sites here in Central Texas that go back as far as 9000 BCE, and a few that may be older. The Gualt Site in one that has been in continuous study for many years.
iirc, there have been remains dating back to about 18,000 bc found in the Americas
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Officially, none more than 12K BCE. However, there are two sites, one in Pennsylvania, and one in Argentina that may push human habitation back to as much as 28-30K BCE. The RC dating is ambiguous as they're using charcoal as the samples.
Problem with finding habitation areas and/or human remains is that the sea-levels have risen significantly and many of the best sites like mouths of rivers or bays are inundated and unavilable for study.
That must explain why there are so many ghost posts in this thread.
Reminds me of when I was installing a fireplace insert in a building that had been a stage coach stop out in CO. Knocked a face stone off next to the openning, and while getting readyu to mortar it back in, by chipping loose the old mortar, I found a long bone, about the size of my upper arm, in the mass behind. Could have been a deer bone and somebodies idea of a joke. But I ( and the owner) had no good reason to find out if it had human DNA. I slapped that rock right back up again.
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