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Indianapolis (and others) EPA Lead Certified Class Offered by Andersen Windows

calvin | Posted in Construction Techniques on March 9, 2010 07:48am

I’m on the Andersen Window email list.  Just got one today and it seems Andersen is putting together locations for Lead Certification Classes.  I typed in my zipcode, the closest was Indy.  175.00 for the class-then if you pass you apply to the EPA for certification (another 300.00)

Here’s the link to the class description and a place for you to find one near you.

As an additional attempt at easing the $Pain$, Andersen will give you a coupon good for I think a 100.00 off a window order (some restrictions apply-like no box store-ha ha ha).

http://www.andersenwindows.com/servlet/Satellite/AW/Page/awGeneral-3_Replacement/1261581024478?adsrc=rrpdealer

The email came later in the day from one I rcvd from a local supplier.  Modern Bldrs Supply is offering the class for 225.00 this March 23rd in Toledo.  No coupon for anything, but no drive to Indy either.  8 hr class, both provide lunch. 

Something to think about as the April 22 deadline approaches.

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  1. Shep | Mar 09, 2010 09:29pm | #1

    Calvin-

    I took the class about a month ago. It cost $325, and we didn't even get lunch! <G>

    There were some interesting things in the class, but most of it was just common sense about dealing with dust, lead or otherwise. I still haven't registered with the EPA, but I guess I should do that soon.

    My problem with this whole thing is that honest contractors like you and I are going to have to raise our prices a good amount to cover expenses, but the fly-by-nighters will ignore the laws and keep their prices low. There doesn't seem to be any real method of enforcement.

    Plus a homeowner can do the lead removal themselves, without taking any of the precautions we'll have to. If lead dust is so bad, a HO should have to take the same precautions as contractors do.

    1. calvin | Mar 09, 2010 09:51pm | #2

      Yup, the price is right in the midwest.

      And the Andersen deal seems like a good one-if it's in Indy, should be elsewhere, those interested should check it out.

      I am hoping that this will play out to my benefit.  I don't know how to pitch it yet, but with total referral as my business source, I should be in a better situation to educate to get the job.

      or not.

      1. Shep | Mar 10, 2010 05:33pm | #3

        Geez, this place sucks. I never got any e-mail notice that you'd replied to my post.

        Anyway-

        I'm planning on doing pretty much the same- educate my customers, and hope they're willing to spend the extra $.

        My business is basically based on referrals, too.

        Much less hassle when I get new customers by being recommended by an old one. The old ones (usually) don't recommend their PITA friends to me. LOL

        How's the golf? I've got a 3 day weekend down by Atlantic City coming up in a couple of weeks. It'll be the first time I've swung a club since October. It could get ugly <G>

        1. calvin | Mar 10, 2010 06:13pm | #4

          Still snow on them at this time.

          I guess I watch the yard and make the call.  Still remnants of drifts on the north side of .........most anything here in the woods.

          Close though.

          Several days of rain forecast, that should bring the rivers up.   And a good thing they were down, that was alot of snow to melt.  Looks like no ice damn/breakup to make life miserable up river.  That's good news for a couple courses.  They drain to it.  Faster drain/faster dryup.

          Enjoy that time off. 

          1. Shep | Mar 10, 2010 08:17pm | #5

            I've got a couple of buddies that will play golf year round, even when its 20 degress or below.

            I talked to him last week, and he was saying this winter, and especially the last month, has been the longest stretch he's gone without playing in years.

            Looks like its time to press some bets <G>

          2. calvin | Mar 10, 2010 09:19pm | #6

            Just got an email from Aitskay (spelling is incorrect) .  He fwd'd one from his Yard that is putting on one of the clinics.  Seems there are several manufacturing organizations along with a couple of our trade orgs are urging congress and I suppose the EPA to delay enforcement past the April 22 deadline.   They claim that the EPA is not ready and that there'd be a clash with the govt's weatherization programs.

            Reprinted without permission of the Northville Lumber Co.  ( but I thought it important to post the latest news)  Thanks to them for providing it.

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            THE FIGHT IS ON!!

            Yesterday, we posted information regarding a training class on the EPA required certification to comply with it's new lead paint rules that take effect April 22, 2010. Today, a group of agencies, including NARI (National Association of the Remodling Industry) who is sponsoring the training class, has challenged the EPA's preparedness to go forward at this time with their April 22nd deadline. While there currently is no change in that date, we will certainly keep Northville Nation posted on the progress.

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            WILL THERE BE A DELAY IN THE EPA LEAD RULE?

            NLBMDA, Others Seek Delay in EPA Lead Rule

            Agency isn't ready to enforce new regs designed to get lead out of old homes, groups say

             

            Source: PROSALES Information Service

            Publication date: 2010-03-10

            By Craig Webb

            The National Lumber and Building Material Dealers Association (NLBMDA) and 11 other associations and institutions joined this week in urging two Senate committees to seek a delay in the Environmental Protection Agency's Lead: Renovation, Repair and Painting (LRRP) rule. They argued the EPA lacks the adequate preparation needed to enforce the change, and that if it did proceed, it could hurt the government's weatherization and retrofit programs.

            The groups' letter stems from an EPA rule issued April 22, 2008, that requires contractors performing renovation, repair and painting projects that disturb lead-based paint in homes, child care facilities, and schools built before 1978 to be certified and follow specific work practices to prevent lead contamination. (See EPA fact sheet.) Ignoring the new rules can lead to fines of up to $37,500 per day, notes Replacement Contractor, a sister publication to ProSales, in a recentcover story on the issue.

            The letter from NLBMDA and others sent Monday to the chairs and ranking members of the Senate Committee on Energy and Natural Resources and the Committee on Environment and Public Works stressed their general support of renovating pre-1978 homes in according with LRRP. "Unfortunately, based on EPA compliance-needs estimates, we do not believe EPA is prepared to adequately implement the LRRP," the group said. "Further, if implemented now, the LRRP will negatively affect economic stimulus funding designated for housing weatherization and planned efforts for a national residential retrofit program."

            The groups said EPA has only 135 accredited trainers and 13,669 certified renovators nationwide "although its own compliance-needs estimates indicate that it needs at least 200,000 or more certified renovators." Those numbers would be inadequate under normal circumstances, the groups said, but they definitely would be too small given the Obama administration's proposed Home Star program to provide tax credits for home renovations that reduce energy costs and help the environment. Home Star also is intended to help spur the creation of new jobs.

            "With the April 22, 2010 deadline nearing, it is clear that EPA cannot ensure enough certified renovators will be available for compliance with the LRRP," the groups wrote. "Meanwhile, there is going to be an additional influx of new contractors and renovators generated by the Home Star proposal in the same industry (i.e., residential retrofitting). This will create a major problem between LRRP compliance and the exponential increase in the numbers of retrofit contractors under a Home Star program. We believe renovation incentives and Home Star, if passed as proposed, which is deliberately intended to significantly increase renovation work in older homes, will only magnify LRRP compliance issues."

            The groups notes that EPA has said it would consider delaying LRRP's effective date, and they urged the Senators to press for such extra time. "In light of the high priority given by both Congress and the Administration to improving energy efficiency in older homes and creating a robust residential retrofit industry, e.g., through a Home Star proposal, contractors and industry professionals must have a resolution to the LRRP compliance issue before April 22, 2010," they wrote.

            Aside from NLBMDA, other association singatories included the National Association of Home Builders, the Window and Door Manufacturers Association, the Window and Door Dealers Alliance, the National Glass Association, the Manufactured Housing Institute, and the National Association of the Remodeling Industry. The Home Depot and Lowe's also signed.

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