I have to go swimming in the attic to add some wires not done correctly to an alarm. They were pulled individually to the panel and should have been daisy chained. Lay down a piece of plywood over the blown in and fluff it up as I retreat?
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Real men dive in and scratch later. Then snuggle up to DW!!! LOL
jet has the word...
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WOW!!! What a Ride!
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
Gee thanks. I guess. !!!!http://www.etherhuffer.typepad.com
let us know what the DW has to say about this if you would please...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
actually you are better off being very careful moving around...
the ply will compress the insulation and derate it...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
If I don't step through the ceiling, that will be enough to keep us happy!http://www.etherhuffer.typepad.com
becareful...
use the brail system every step of the way...
put the insulation back the way ya found it as you withdraw...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
They were pulled individually to the panel and should have been daisy chained.
Can't you just tie them together at the panel?
Well, we thought so. But the panel does not see it that way and every alarm person I know says they have to daisy chain so that the panel can supervise them properly.http://www.etherhuffer.typepad.com
you talking about series or parralell wiring???
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
Parallel is how the diagram shows. Its a two wire system, each wire running to the same leads on each detector, ending with a 300 ohm resistor. http://www.etherhuffer.typepad.com
how is the pannel wired...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
got a pic???
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
who made the panel???
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
There are 2 wires at the panel that go out. Its an Ademco Vista 20 split panel. Each of the two wires hits the same lead screw on the detector and then on to the next. An end of line resistor is at the last detector. Sorry, no pics so far. http://www.etherhuffer.typepad.com
That's a moose panel IIIRC...
is the EOL resistor polarity sensitive???
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
Not sure on that. Are the resistor ends marked as such?http://www.etherhuffer.typepad.com
not the resistor for polarity...
wiring the sensores to the panel... polarity for them...
the expansion board is a great idea...
can ya post the schematic or email it...
somethin g tells me this a series wire up and you should be able to do that right at the panel with a load strip or just twist up the appropiate leads and wire cap...
where are you???
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
Seattle. I will have to dig stuff up and repost when I find it. Is an expansion panel just another circuit board I add in?http://www.etherhuffer.typepad.com
yup....
cake and pie...
the paper work tells all...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
lets look into the series aspect... you may be able to go that way...
as said the expansion panel gives ya multiple zones and easy to trouble shoot in the future as where a series loop can develope gremlins...
is yur system working now and how old is it???
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
We have a 10 year old partitioned system. One side controls the mother in law apartment alarm and fire. The other side the upstairs alarm. We are now finishing the upstairs so we are adding fire to the upstairs area. The two smoke heads in the MIL work ok. We added 3 smokes and one heat riser upstairs, pulling wire to the panel from each. Tried to connect them at the box but no go. Could not get the sensors to trip the alarm. At that point we stopped. So the two MIL smoke heads are tied together, the others are single run. That is where I think our problem is.
The Vista 4219 expansion panel allows 8 end of line monitored devices to be added. I could add my four new detectors and leave the old fire circuit alone? That would be easy and relatively cheap. 80 bucks for the panel. http://www.etherhuffer.typepad.com
go for the panel....
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->
WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
OK I asked my question before I read all the way through. The other guys are right Its better to have each one on their own point. Vista is a good panel. I'm going to install one in my sisters new house for a house warming present when the get it done.
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"I tell you, We are here on earth to fart around, and don't let anybody tell you any different." Kurt Vonnegut jr.
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Edited 9/20/2007 10:23 pm ET by Gunner
Well, I checked on some alarm forums. Sounds like I can't do an expansion panel as smokes won't work one to a zone due to power supply problems. Back to the insulation swimming.http://www.etherhuffer.typepad.com
I still don't understand the problem.If I understand correctly you have a separate pair back from each alarm to the location of the alarm panel.At the point you can hook them all up in parallel or in series however you like.Don't know what you will gain by running new wires..
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A-holes. Hey every group has to have one. And I have been elected to be the one. I should make that my tagline.
Make the plywood into a "sled" with 2xwhateverworks attached along the two long edges. Also get some pieces of about 1" dowel rod (or something similar) to lay between joists when your sled "runners" will be parallel to the joists.
If I bevel the fronts of the 2x4s I can ride down the roof when I am done!http://www.etherhuffer.typepad.com
ether.. i might bring a piece of ply with me.. but the way i'd get there would be like imerc said
brail method
one foot on a ceiling joist / truss chord / framing member.. centered.. then next foot on next.. & so on..
don't do a weight transfer until you're sure of your next footingMike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
Whoever did your LV wiring did a good job. Now you can monitor each sensor on it's own individual zone. Just get an explansion panel for your board if you don't already have enough.
You lost me on that one. ???????http://www.etherhuffer.typepad.com
Dont forget your mask.
You can't fix that at the panel? Series them together right there?
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"I tell you, We are here on earth to fart around, and don't let anybody tell you any different." Kurt Vonnegut jr.