I’ve been working in this building that was an IH regional hub. They had offices, a show room, and service bays for harvesters and IH trucks. I thought it was a factory, due to the stout construction, but I was wrong about that.
It was built to hold heavy machines and trucks. It had a huge freight elevator large enough for harvesting equipment and trucks to drive into and they hoisted them up to the third floor for service (first floor was showroom and basement was parts dept.
The building is post and beam. The posts are 14×14″ timbers and the beams are 14×18″ and 12×18″. They are mortise and tenon, but metal gussets and post to beam hardware appears to have been added.
I have been adding post and beam details of my own as part of some remodeling. The building is now commercial office space (medical, law, accounting, banking, etc.).
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Will the CU service doors get trimmed in wood?
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No, kinda strange.
Have you had occasion to look at the floor framing in this bldg? I've been in some of these old warehouse multi story bldgs and it is amazing the size and volume of wood used for the anticipated loads .
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Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
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Calvin,The floor framing is not even visible in the basement. The beams have a layer of T&G decking on top of them, then the floor frame above that, so it is hidden.Might not look too impressive in the photo, but in person those 14x18 beams are astounding...right out of the tree, no laminations.Ironically, MN was out of timber by 1916. The building schedule was delayed as they waited to get the Doug fir posts and beams from the NW.Bass
I have seen in some buildings around here a joist schedule that would make your head spin. BIG thick joists on a less than 6'' centers. Covered over that with at least 2'' thick flooring. Equipment regularly rode in there. Remarkable.A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.
Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
http://www.quittintime.com/
Don't tell Rez that. he'll kill himself trying to salvage that! ;)
jt8
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Well ya!!! Think what you could do with those. Give ol' VaTom a run for his money.
Saved a few short lengths of 2x6s the other day. Unbelievable the weight in those tight grained old things.
Peace full.
6" centers......I've seen a lot of old downtown furniture showrooms with 0" centers. Solid 2x12 Oak!You get out of life what you put into it......minus taxes.
Marv
Waste of lumber Marv, you get the same load with an inch between them.A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.
Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
http://www.quittintime.com/
On an TOH rerun they showed some construction in Germany. They used a "solid wood" structual floor systems. Laminated. It has been a couple of years and don't have any idea of the thickness..
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A-holes. Hey every group has to have one. And I have been elected to be the one. I should make that my tagline.
Imagine the lumber in those places.
Imagine the volume if it gets recycled.
Imagine the work involved.A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.
Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
http://www.quittintime.com/
Imagine how sore your back will be afterwards ;)
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Edited 1/24/2008 11:25 am by JohnT8
I will be back in the IH building tomorrow for punch list stuff...I'll see if I can see anything above the suspended ceiling.
Where exactly is this building?Fascinating stuff - I hope you'll post more pictures.
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Boss,It is on the banks of the Mississipi River, in Winona, MN.One more tidbit, the service elevator was 11' wide by 16' deep, for hoisting harvesters, etc.Have a good day,Bass
Thanks for the added info.You couldn't get much of a machine into an 11' by 16' elevator. Maybe some of the old pull type machines. But I don't think even the smallest self propelled machine would fit in there.
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I wonder what a 1916 harvester looked like.They could get the IH trucks and tactors in there I've heard.
I wonder what a 1916 harvester looked like.
Lets see if these come through (Google search):
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I was told yesterday, that the floor "frame" is T&G 6x6 contiuous decking covered in subfloor and then narrow strip hardwood flooring.That is quite the wood volume. The building was originally constructed with a fire sprinkler system and the building had its' own water tower.
I've had the pleasure of being able to view some pretty massive frames in some turn of the century (18/19) buildings. Some serious material tote'n there.A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.
Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
http://www.quittintime.com/