This is the lumber drop. Can’t wait to cut the bands on this.
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“Rather be a hammer than a nail”
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Watch the tootsies!
Al
Did a lot of digging last week. City required 2'x2'x12" deep footings with rebar and elevated post base. We packed over 100 - 60#bags of pre-mix and mixed them in my new mixer.
Next time I call a pump truck. Bob
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Keep the pics coming--what type rail is going on?
Glad to see you use a mixer. I work with a lot of deck builders, both builder work & custom, and see a huge amount of concrete go out the gate. I don't know of a single one that uses a mixer though. Decks are back breaking enough-you need all the help you can get!
Al
Al- We will be pressure blocking 6x6 TK cedar post . 5/4 x 4 primed balastrades sandwiched between 5/4 x 4 horizontal supports, capped with 2x6 clear cedar.
Thanks for following along.Bob
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
When the angle is more than 45 degree it is better to cross block then the angle will be 1/2 of that angle.
In this case the angle was 66 degees on the left joist my son put in.
I showed him how to frame it correctly on the right at 33 degrees. Bob
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Here is a cute little tool for maintaining 12" on center when you have an angle at both ends of your joists.Bob
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
The beam carries the weight instead of the chimney boxBob
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Nice work as usual. Your attention to proper framing matches your finish work.
Nice tool, if yer looken to git a patn on that thing LM can probby help yer out.
Doug
LOL - Doug - I think I saw one of those things at the local hardware store made out of plastic once before, so I probably won't get rich from the "Spacer Block" idea.
They also come in different sizes which may confuse the novice builder, 10 1/2", 14 1/2", and 22 1/2".
Just another gadget to make your job easier, kind of like the hammer loop, "now where did I leave my hammer?" Bob
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
4817 - heading up the hill
4815- Bolting down ripped 2 x 8 over pad
4814 - 3/8" striker bolts work the best-"Nice roll out Bob"
Bob
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Edited 10/10/2002 11:46:30 PM ET by Pro-Dek
Great pictures! Keep em coming!
Bob
Who want's to make his very own deck someday.
Living in the Great Northwest
Those bolts are worth their weight in gold!
Well, almost..
Excellence is its own reward!
Striker bolts are my favorite Piffin- Do you have any experience fastening wood to brick?
I have to molly bolt 6" x 6" rail posts to these brick columns.Bob
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Not to brick, I don't. Most brick here is on old fireplaces and chimneys. I would worry that a spreader type or wedge bolt like that would do damage to the brick or mortar. In the attachment here of a pair of gates on stone columns, I used an epoxy mix to set the bolts in. Can't remember the name but it's sold to masons. Had a strength of something like 28,000# if I remember right. That would probably win in a Tug'O'War with Ben Hur's chariots, dontcha think?
It came in a double caulk gun injector, so the two parts were mixed automatically as it was going in. Easy as pie. Let bolts set up a few hours and set the hardware..
Excellence is its own reward!
Thanks Piffin - think I'll give that a try - I'll let you know how it works. I didn't want to use lead anchors.
I'll post the steps I go through, and blame it on you- if they don't hold. :-)Bob
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
OK, I've got broad shoulders..
Excellence is its own reward!
Ive used something similar made by Hilti, they come in glass test tubes drill hole insert tubes and when you run the bolt in the glass breaks it makes a chem epoxy reation and sets up fast. works great. I know im reading this post a little late.
What name would I use to ask for them at the lumber yard? Sounds like a good thing to keep in stock..
Excellence is its own reward!
"The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit. The second is to look things in the face and know them for what they are." --Marcus Aurelius
Here's the website. they don't use the glass application any longer. now a foil application. http://www.hilti.com/holcom/modules/prcat/prca_navigation.jsp?OID=-9782
Thanks for the link RichBob
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Bob,
Great looking deck! How did you attach the railing to the post? Do you have any photos showing that detail? I like the look of the white railing with the natural 6x6.
He did post a series of photos about that mounting by using epoxy to set studs itno holes drilled in bricks. He refered to Piffin putty in that post, I think so try a search for that phrase and go backa post or two..
Excellence is its own reward!
"The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit. The second is to look things in the face and know them for what they are." --Marcus Aurelius
Thanks, Piffin
I was more interested in how the white railing is attached to the posts.
Thanks...Jeff
Bob,
I have been checking out the deck pics and it is certainly a professional job, shows true pride and craftsmanship. By the way who built it? lol
I am very interested in the camera you are using. The pics are very clear and crisp. We have been using a SLR for years and it's time for a digital. With a camera like yours maybe we can look as good as you. What model is it. Thanks.
Regards, Gary"Don't take life too seriously, you are not getting out of it alive"
Thanks Gary- I use a Nikon Coolpix 990Bob
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Any time, by the way nice job. Im thinking about using either ipey or ironwood for my deck. thoughts?
I am going to install it on my front deck. I think it is the most durable product out there. You could drive a bulldozer on it and it wouldn't mark.Bob
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
How did you do that with the hammer. To bad u couldn't make the nail run away. LOL
Luka helped me do it, how he does it is beyond me???Bob
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Oh well, really neat though. I guess I'm just easily amused.
4825- butt joint
4827- transistion
4834- cutting,drilling,screwing
4836- cutting tappered posts
4835- plumb, measure tappper frm top of post height
4837- subtract tapper from bottom
4838- cut w/ 8 1/2" Skill
4842- front and side deck done
4843- side deck from front deckBob
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
nice work..as expectec
Thanks Stan- hows your curved stair case coming?Bob
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Bob: The curved stairway is on hold for about three weeks. I am presently working on a two section maple stairway that has a flared bottom. I kind of monitor each house as to how they are progressing. I usually have 4-5 stairs going at once..and just switch back and forth as needed.
4835 plumb marking the tapered post?
I need three paws just to do that and you hold a camera too?
Got octopuss in your genes?
LOL
Are you bunging those screw holes?.
Excellence is its own reward!
That was a balance act- LOL- No, we will lightly sand and seal all the tappered holes.No plugging on this deck.
Thanks for following along.........Bob
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Now my head hurts!! Smacked it right after I saw your spacer block. Kept wunnerin how Icould keep it from fallin on the ground and making me climb down for it. Duh!!
That was worth the price of admission
I look down my nose at people who dare to look down their nose at people.
LOL- Pete - I guess you could even tie a string to the block , but then you would get black&blue from the block bangin ya in the legs all day. :-}Bob
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Almost done, I'll take more shots after we clean up all our tools and debris
4987- stairs and rail
4991- front viewBob
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Really nice stairs Bob....
Thanks Stan - They're big, heavy, rough, and crude but they last forever. Not quite as fancy as yours. I'll bet you're enjoying that heated shop, the temp has been in the 20's here at night. Brrrrrrrrrrr!Bob
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Beautiful work, Bob!
Thanks JC- I will post better pictures after it is oiled and painted.Bob
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
beauty as always, Bob- I miss doing decks- maybe this summer I'll do a working vaca up there & help you out w/one?
There ya go Greg! - Bring the 4" Porter Cable I'll supply the belts. :-)Bob
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
I like it.
It fits the house. That is a very big compliment from me. It's high on my list of things to consider when designing something and sometimes even the designer isn't sure until it is all done. This one fits..
Excellence is its own reward!
Thanks Piffin- Always nice to get compliments from the Pro'sBob
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Weeell shucks, My name's on it too, with all that piffinputty.
Excellence is its own reward!
"The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit. The second is to look things in the face and know them for what they are." --Marcus Aurelius
This is a hard deck to get good pictures of. 4993- back & side deck , 4994- gate top of steps, 4996- front deck, 4997- spa deck and dog run, 4999- spa deck and gate, 5002 - spa deck and rail.
Bob
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
It always stinks when you can't step back far enough to get a good shot.
I get the same problem with positioning my camera in the CAD program. It'll end up on the inside of the wall and i don't seee a thing sometimes.
bob, I think it's time for a file management lesson.
When you go to attach files to a post and you bring up your browse window to find it, try right clicking on the file name. Choose rename from the drop down list. Your file should then be highlighted. You type a new name and hit the 'enter' key. Now it has a recognizeable name to carry it into the forum and you don't need to add the indexing description. Plus it stays with the file so you can find it easy yourself later.
You can do the same with any program that lets you view the files or with windows exploreer. Just right click each file and give it a proper name. .
Excellence is its own reward!
"The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit. The second is to look things in the face and know them for what they are." --Marcus Aurelius
Thanks for the tip Piffin - so let me see if I can do thisBob
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
How about that!
Even trains have decks!
But this one missed a sceduled treatment with Penefin or CWF.
Excellence is its own reward!
"The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit. The second is to look things in the face and know them for what they are." --Marcus Aurelius
Here is a shot of the framing we did today. Bob
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
I'm curious - Why all the blocking between the joists?
When you talk, you only hear what you already think. When you listen, you hear what others think
I'm as curious as you Boss- I guess it keeps the birds from nesting on the beams,
LOL, the real reason , I think, is for strength and to keep the joists from twisting.
It's no wonder I had to change from 4x8 beams to 4x10. To carry the additional weight of the blocking.
All I know is , if there is an earthquake, the customer better leave the house and run for the deck, because IT certainly is not going anywhere.Bob
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
So I gather it's required by code, instead of being something you see as necessary?
I went to the museum where they had all the heads and arms from the statues that are in all the other museums.
Rodger on the code thing Boss.
I shot this line with a lazer. Bob
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Here is another overkill requirement by the City. 4 X 10 beams at 7' on center for an 8' 2 X 10 Joist span.Bob
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Bob, I forget where you are located, but you seem to do a lot of ipe.
Last year I ordered 4000' of 1-by-4 from a place in Jersey for $0.59 a foot, 12' and 16' sticks. If I recall, they sell it in 1000' lots. Good wood.
I can try to dig up the name if you're interested.
Edited 10/1/2002 11:30:39 PM ET by Mongo
Mongo- That is a great price for IPE. the best I have seen around here is $.89'
There is 4500 lf on this deck @ $1.49'. It will be pre-sanded and pre-sealed with Penofin red lable before it is installed.Bob
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
4846- New epoxy gun for "Piffin Putty" :-)
Bob
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Piffin Putty!
Don't get any on ya!
Will there now be a small (very small) cadre' of loyal Piffinettes spread out across the land who never again use that stuff without thinking of that nickname?
Should I add it to the BT concessions right next to the Piffinpops?
You got me laughing and almost giggling here, Bob
BTW, Mortar usually is harder than brick..
Excellence is its own reward!
LOL- I know mortar is harder, but I wasn't sure I wouldn't blast it out with the roto hammer when I started drilling. That Epoxy really works, Piffin, and does it ever stick to your hands.
I really need to find something else to epoxy cause I still have half a tube left.
tube- $24.00
Gun- $68.00
nozzels(for end of gun)- $16.89
Studs- 14- $38.64
Total $147.53
8.8% tax $12.98
Grand total for "Piffin Putty" $160.51
Bob
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
But it's only a few bucks per hole and you've still got the gun.
I guess I was lucky. I borrowed one from my mason and he just charged me for the amt of epoxy I used.
Same stuff good to tie rebar to existing foundation for addition..
Excellence is its own reward!
The epoxy held great Piffin- thanks for the tip!
4861- drilling through post after transfering mark from back to front
4864- Dos Hole
4875- front deck
4871- porch landing
Bob
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
4851 - Drilling morter - found the morter to be much harder than the brick.
4852 - Epoxied the stud in place, recessed to hide the nut, and posistioned 5 1/2" and 36" so the top and bottom horizontal rails will hide the hole.
4855 - tomorrow I will smack the post against the studs, transfer the mark to the front,countersink with an 1 1/2" bit, then drill through with a 3/8" forsner bit.
Bob
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
4873 - 3 x 12 treated and cleated stairs
4876 - stairjaack set 1 1/2" inside of top rail post
4879 - Bottom rail post notched to match top rail post
4881 - Tools required to make these steps
Bob
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"
Was it you wanting to paint your shop Dewalt yellow?
LOL
Wondering what the wires are sticking out of the edges of the entrance landing?.
Excellence is its own reward!
LOL- Piffin- I do own a few Dewalt tools, they're affordable, and get the job done.
The wires are for low voltage step lights.Bob
"Rather be a hammer than a nail"