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   BobChapman | Oct 28, 2004 02:43am | #1

   He's absolutely WRONG!

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   Piffin | Oct 28, 2004 03:22am | #2

   it's good to know that home depot doesn't have a monopoly on Bulsh!t. Competition halps keep the price down on it.

   SS is rustresistant thru and thru, while glavanizing is just a coating of zinc on the surface. Scrape that surface away and watch it rust.

    

    

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   jerseyjeff | Oct 28, 2004 04:24am | #3

   Hmmm...  so if it looks like a rat and sounds like a rat,  even if it is said with authority its still a rat! 

   I called my friend the all knowing engineer,  and after he utter  a few choice curse words,  he too agreed that if it is galvinized really well,  than it would nt rust,  but the mere act of pushing the galvinized fastener through the wood will take off the galv coating and rust central....

   so having said that,  is everyone loading stainless into their finish guns for outdoors/bathrooms,  or just using regular nails and really good paint?

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   davidmeiland | Nov 13, 2004 09:27pm | #13

   I've been using Senco 15ga stainless finish nails for some exterior trim applications lately with western red cedar. We special-ordered a box of them. The nail of choice for most exterior cedar trim is a ring shank stainless siding nail (has a small round head, not a finish nail) but for some of what we've been doing, where we're pinning stuff together, the stainless finish nails come in handy and the Senco galv finish nails cannot be substituted. You can also use stainless trimhead screws and avoid buying a nailer altogether if you really don't need one.

   For interior work just use the regular finish nails, or galv if it makes you feel better. If there's so much moisture in a bathroom that it's rusting the nails then you've got a bigger problem requiring ventilation rather than stainless nails.

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   Davo304 | Oct 28, 2004 05:19am | #4

   A galvanized nail couldn't hold up the jock strap of a stainless steel one...if you catch my drift.

   Since you are contemplating buying a 15 or 16 guage brad nailer...check out the Senco compressor/brad nail package. It sells for $200 complete.

   The compressor is very small, very quiet, but does a very good job keeping up with the nail gun. The brad nailer in this package is actually an 18 guage model; which is a bit thin, but honestly, has worked just fine for me on trim jobs.

   Being that the compressor is small and LIGHTWEIGHT, it is no trouble at all to transport this lil set-up anywhere...and best of all, no worries about whether a battery is fully charged or not.

   Just thought I'd mention it. Bought my set in early May...has been a good investment for me so far.

   Davo

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   PLUM72 | Oct 28, 2004 06:14am | #5

   Lets get some facts straight here.  Galvanizing is nothing more than the addition of zinc to metal.  A standard Grade 2 hardware store bolt with a zinc plate is galvanized.  Many people confuse galvanizing with hot dipped galvanizing.  The two are far from the same.  Hot dipped galvanized is what you need for exterior use.

   There are also many grades of stainless steel out there.  Most people lump stainless with 304 and 316 grades.  These are absolutely the best for corrosive environments.  But there is also a 410 grade stainless out there which is only slightly more corrosion resistant than standard carbon steel.  Why?  because 410 stainless has a high percentage of carbon in it as an element.  Yes there are many fasteners out there made of 410 stainless.  410 stainless is used because it can be heat treated.

   When you buy fasteners, look a little deeper than the galvanized or stainless word.  The corporate marketing people out there just want you to buy their stuff!

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   Davo304 | Nov 12, 2004 05:13pm | #7

   Plum

   I agree wholeheartedly with what you are saying.

   I know about the differences...11 years working in  a steel mill tends to do that to you....gives you knowledge about the properties of different metals. I always use hot dipped galv over plated galv. I use plated galv over plain "black" steel, and I try to use stainless whenever possible instead of either of the earlier choices mentioned.

   I agree that there are good grades and bad grades of stainless...but finding the different grades at your local lumber/hardware stores for everyday use is tough if not impossible to find sometimes.

   Davo

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   CAGIV | Oct 28, 2004 07:41am | #6

   I noticed depot had a package deal with a Senco 15ga, 18ga, and stapler, only saw it in passing and didn't look b/c I own those already, but I believe the price was about 200 bucks... hell of a deal if I saw it right

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   Davo304 | Nov 12, 2004 05:14pm | #8

   CAG,

   I'm sure you saw right. It is a great deal. I like mine very well and use this lil guy almost daily. Works great.

   Davo

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   brockway | Nov 12, 2004 06:26pm | #9

   The depot deal is $295 I believe and in addition to the 3 tools mentioned also includes the compressor, hose and some nails.

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   CAGIV | Nov 13, 2004 06:40am | #10

   thats a hell of a deal then.

   almost makes me feel like going and buying back ups ;)

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   Clay | Nov 13, 2004 04:33pm | #11

   Be aware though that the tools offered in HD stores are often NOT the same as the industrial quality models that you get at The Senco distributors.  They have made cheaper models specifically for the HD market.  They may still do the job for you but be aware that when you compare pricing with the HD stuff and the tools from your Senco dealers you may be looking at quality/durability differences too.

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   CAGIV | Nov 13, 2004 08:47pm | #12

   yeah, but for 300 bucks for 3 guns and a compressor... thats still a good deal even if they are the lesser senco models