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Is it mandatory to build out the headers before installing an exterior door

toolbabe | Posted in General Discussion on July 28, 2015 06:20am

Hi,

 

Take a look at these pics and let me know what you think. As far as I know the headers should be built out to fit flush with the door jams. why is the header in the picture set back. It needed a plywood spacer in between to build it out.

 

what a hack job around the top of that door frame. torn house wrap and plywood hacked away to fit the door in. Not quite sure what they were trying to accomplish. The tack tape isn’t doing much.. It’s not adhering to anything

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  1. mark122 | Jul 28, 2015 06:47pm | #1

    toolbabe, although i feel bad you are going through a bad experience with this foundation repair, you are partly at fault for not letting these guys go at the first sign of them not knowing how to properly do any of the work they were hired to do.

    you have asked for advice on here multiple times but dont see to want to head any of it. 

    its a shoty door install that will need to be replaced after a season or two of weather changes.

    1. toolbabe | Jul 28, 2015 06:58pm | #2

      Mark I understand where you're coming from but before I realized how serious things were a substantial amt. of money was paid to this unscrupulous contractor. I was left with a trench around my premises that needed  a weeping tile system installed asap so it could be backfilled. The situation continued to get more complicated as time went on.

      Belive me I am grateful for the advice on this forum. It's not that I am not listening. I'm going to have to consult my lawyer again to see what my options are.  I wish it was just a matter of firing the contractor and getting another person to do the job right. or else I would have done that. I could open myself up for a law suit.  I'm in a real bind.

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        deadnuts | Jul 28, 2015 10:27pm | #3

        I'm not seeing your bind.

        What I am seeing is someone who is too cheap to hire a professional contractor and rather enjoys playing the part of the perpetual malcontent.

  2. DanH | Jul 28, 2015 11:08pm | #4

    In all my work with Habitat and with Lutheran groups doing storm recovery, all with volunteers who are not pros, I've never seen such sloppy, hacked-up work.

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      Mike_Mahan | Jul 29, 2015 12:11am | #5

      Worst.

      This may be the worst I've ever seen, too. I've seen better building in Mexico done with no money.

  3. jimatgreatwhite | Jul 29, 2015 12:55am | #6

    build out on the headers to flush with wall

    To answer your question it is not required that the header be flush with the interior of your wall.

    The two by six below the header accomplishes that for you, finishing the rough opening to the full wall depth.

    As long as the header is made up of the proper number of plys of the proper size you should be ok.

    The air space created actually gives you a little more room to insulate, and with the header not in contact with your interior wall surfaces eliminates a bit of thermal bridging.

    Is it sloppy work? I think yes, address your concerns and expectations with your contractor, might help might not.

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    deadnuts | Jul 30, 2015 08:49am | #7

    If you'er the one paying the bills, then it means your accepting the work as completed. So if you feel you're in a bind, then know that you put yourself there.

    BTW, sloppy work passes for carpentry only in your imagination.  In the real world it is still known as sloppy work.

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