FHB Logo Facebook LinkedIn Email Pinterest Twitter X Instagram Tiktok YouTube Plus Icon Close Icon Navigation Search Icon Navigation Search Icon Arrow Down Icon Video Guide Icon Article Guide Icon Modal Close Icon Guide Search Icon Skip to content
Subscribe
Log In
  • How-To
  • Design
  • Tools & Materials
  • Restoration
  • Videos
  • Blogs
  • Forum
  • Magazine
  • Members
  • FHB House
  • Podcast
Log In

Discussion Forum

Discussion Forum

Issue with electrical outlet

steveb5004 | Posted in General Discussion on April 5, 2021 07:29am

Hello, I have an electrical question. Last week I replaced every outlet in my l kitchen and dining room since I’m renovating and they were all old and very dated looking. All of the new outlets worked great until one stopped working when I plugged something into it on Saturday. The outlet in question stopped working along with everything “after” it on the same circuit. When I unscrewed the outlet from the box, the lights after it on the same circuit would blink as I moved the outlet around, so I figured it was just a loose connection. I kicked the breaker and rewired the entire outlet and now it and everything after it on the circuit doesn’t work at all. No more blinking. Everything that’s before the outlet in question on the same circuit still works as it should.

Another weird part of this: the light switches after the outlet in question are still hot, as in my electric tester still goes off when I put it on the switches. But the lights don’t work and the outlet doesn’t work.

Any suggestions? Could the new outlet have gone bad already? It’s brand new but is a cheap one from Lowe’s. Could the outlet before the one in question be the issue? I gave it a visual inspection but didn’t dig in because I assume the problem is in the outlet that no longer works since the lights would blink when I messed with it. Could it be an issue with the wiring between the two outlets?I sure hope not since it’s buried behind a stone veneer wall.

I know it’s probably impossible to diagnose this from a distance, but I was hoping this novice might have overlooked something simple. Thanks for any help you can provide.

Normal
0

false
false
false

EN-US
X-NONE
X-NONE

/* Style Definitions */
table.MsoNormalTable
{mso-style-name:”Table Normal”;
mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0;
mso-tstyle-colband-size:0;
mso-style-noshow:yes;
mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-parent:””;
mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;
mso-para-margin-top:0in;
mso-para-margin-right:0in;
mso-para-margin-bottom:8.0pt;
mso-para-margin-left:0in;
line-height:107%;
mso-pagination:widow-orphan;
font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:”Calibri”,sans-serif;
mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;
mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;
mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;
mso-bidi-font-family:”Times New Roman”;
mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi;}

Reply
  • X
  • facebook
  • linkedin
  • pinterest
  • email
  • add to favorites Log in or Sign up to save your favorite articles

Replies

  1. User avater
    dancingdogvt | Apr 05, 2021 10:41am | #1

    Are/were there any GFIs in the circuit?
    Do you have a proper meter that can do a continuity test?
    Did any of the old outlets have broken tabs? Could it be a multiwire branch?

    Anyhow, there's too much stuff on there for my comfort, and I'd give serious thought to splitting it across more breakers.

    I'm not a pro but this one scares me, I'd leave the breaker off (and make sure that actually kills *all* the power to the lights/outlets/rooms!) until you figure it out.

  2. User avater
    unclemike42 | Apr 05, 2021 01:28pm | #2

    It sounds like you may have a broken conductor in the neutral wire in the box you were moving the plug. It is possible to have a wire break inside the insulation so that it is not immediately obvious looking at it.

    It is also possible that you do not have enough of the end of one or more wires stripped far enough, and that your solid connection on the re-wired plug is actually holding the insulation, not the copper conductor.

    With the breaker off, you can check for continuity between ground and neutral (which there should be, connected only at the main breaker box)

    with the power on, you should be able to see voltage from the hot wire to the neutral on the outlet, as well as voltage from the hot to ground.

  3. firedudec56 | Apr 05, 2021 10:52pm | #3

    do you have modern wiring with non-metallic sheathing (aka Romex), mid to early century flexible metal conduit (aka BX) or old style knob and tube wiring?
    if you have Romex, you've got a 2 conductor with ground and should be able to trace/track down the problem.
    if you have BX, 2 conductors wiring without an actual ground, with the possibility of the metal sheathing being used as a ground. That could cause you some problems..
    if you have knob and tube wiring, there's a chance you have a shared neutral and you've "disturbed " how the electricity travels..
    other question is what kind of outlets did you have in place and what did you replace the existing with - if you had 2 conductor outlets (aka no ground), then you need to replace it with 2 conductor outlets.
    if you had GFI outlets, then you need GFI replacements
    as a separate observation, if you're working in a kitchen, any outlets within 18 inches of water need to be GFI outlets (I could be wrong, might be 15 inches) - you need to check with your local jurisdiction (aka the local electrical inspector) - you could also reach out to your local friendly electrician.
    I'm bring up all these details as you said 'novice "
    as previously mentioned, you really should have the breaker on that circuit off until you get it figured out.
    you can get a fire on an outlet without any thing plugged into that outlet, based on the draw from a device further down on the same circuit if it's "looking" for a ground or a neutral
    since (again, sorry) you're saying novice, you might be better off getting an electrician in on the problem - might cost you some money, but might also save you some other problems - If you can find an electrician willing to do it as a "side job', maybe after a regular day or on the weekend, you might find it more cost effective.
    sorry about being so long, but as previously mentioned, there's a lot going on.

    good luck

  4. steveb5004 | Apr 06, 2021 08:01am | #4

    Thanks to all of you for your replies. It was indeed the outlet before the one in question. The white neutral wires were not tightly secured. After rewiring it, the outlet that wasn't working and the lights after it all work just fine. It was surprising that very slightly moving an outlet could loosen a wire in the outlet before it (which is around a room corner and about 12 feet away), but that's what it was. Either way, happy to have figured it out without calling an electrician.

  5. firedudec56 | Apr 08, 2021 04:19pm | #5

    loose neutral may have already been loose and using the outlet kind of "finished" loosening it so it wouldn't work.
    are the wires secured in the box? moving a box/outlet away from the one that had the loose wire should not have affected the other conductors
    while attaching the outlets in a "daisy chain" is okay, I like to use a pigtail off the main circuit (wire) to attach to the individual outlets
    congrats on finding the problem and solving it

  6. jameslandry | Apr 22, 2022 09:55am | #6

    Where does the neutral wire go in a breaker box? You only need to take out the cover of your breaker box to see its connections.
    I still can't find the answer. Can anyone here help me?

Log in or create an account to post a comment.

Sign up Log in

Become a member and get full access to FineHomebuilding.com

Video Shorts

Categories

  • Business
  • Code Questions
  • Construction Techniques
  • Energy, Heating & Insulation
  • General Discussion
  • Help/Work Wanted
  • Photo Gallery
  • Reader Classified
  • Tools for Home Building

Discussion Forum

Recent Posts and Replies

  • |
  • |
  • |
  • |
  • |
  • |
View More Create Post

Up Next

Video Shorts

Featured Story

FHB Summit 2025 — Design, Build, Business

Join some of the most experienced and recognized building professionals for two days of presentations, panel discussions, networking, and more.

Featured Video

How to Install Exterior Window Trim

Learn how to measure, cut, and build window casing made of cellular PVC, solid wood, poly-ash boards, or any common molding material. Plus, get tips for a clean and solid installation.

Related Stories

  • Podcast Episode 686: Brick Steps, Ground-Source Heat Pumps, and Greenhouses in Nova Scotia
  • FHB Podcast Segment: Efficient HVAC for a New Build
  • Affordable Scans, Accurate Plans
  • FHB Summit 2025 — Design, Build, Business

Highlights

Fine Homebuilding All Access
Fine Homebuilding Podcast
Tool Tech
Plus, get an extra 20% off with code GIFT20

"I have learned so much thanks to the searchable articles on the FHB website. I can confidently say that I expect to be a life-long subscriber." - M.K.

Get home building tips, offers, and expert advice in your inbox

Signing you up...

This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.
See all newsletters
See all newsletters

Fine Homebuilding Magazine

  • Issue 331 - June 2025
    • A More Resilient Roof
    • Tool Test: You Need a Drywall Sander
    • Ducted vs. Ductless Heat Pumps
  • Issue 330 - April/May 2025
    • Deck Details for Durability
    • FAQs on HPWHs
    • 10 Tips for a Long-Lasting Paint Job
  • Issue 329 - Feb/Mar 2025
    • Smart Foundation for a Small Addition
    • A Kominka Comes West
    • Making Small Kitchens Work
  • Issue 328 - Dec/Jan 2024
    • How a Pro Replaces Columns
    • Passive House 3.0
    • Tool Test: Compact Line Lasers
  • Issue 327 - November 2024
    • Repairing Damaged Walls and Ceilings
    • Plumbing Protection
    • Talking Shop

Fine Home Building

Newsletter Sign-up

  • Fine Homebuilding

    Home building tips, offers, and expert advice in your inbox.

  • Green Building Advisor

    Building science and energy efficiency advice, plus special offers, in your inbox.

  • Old House Journal

    Repair, renovation, and restoration tips, plus special offers, in your inbox.

Signing you up...

This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.
See all newsletters

Follow

  • Fine Homebuilding

    Dig into cutting-edge approaches and decades of proven solutions with total access to our experts and tradespeople.

    Start Free Trial Now
    • Facebook
    • Instagram
    • X
    • LinkedIn
  • GBA Prime

    Get instant access to the latest developments in green building, research, and reports from the field.

    Start Free Trial Now
    • Facebook
    • YouTube
  • Old House Journal

    Learn how to restore, repair, update, and decorate your home.

    Subscribe Now
    • Facebook
    • Instagram
    • X
  • Fine Homebuilding

    Dig into cutting-edge approaches and decades of proven solutions with total access to our experts and tradespeople.

    Start Free Trial Now
    • Facebook
    • Instagram
    • X
    • LinkedIn
  • GBA Prime

    Get instant access to the latest developments in green building, research, and reports from the field.

    Start Free Trial Now
    • Facebook
    • YouTube
  • Old House Journal

    Learn how to restore, repair, update, and decorate your home.

    Subscribe Now
    • Facebook
    • Instagram
    • X

Membership & Magazine

  • Online Archive
  • Start Free Trial
  • Magazine Subscription
  • Magazine Renewal
  • Gift a Subscription
  • Customer Support
  • Privacy Preferences
  • About
  • Contact
  • Advertise
  • Careers
  • Terms of Use
  • Site Map
  • Do not sell or share my information
  • Privacy Policy
  • Accessibility
  • California Privacy Rights

© 2025 Active Interest Media. All rights reserved.

Fine Homebuilding receives a commission for items purchased through links on this site, including Amazon Associates and other affiliate advertising programs.

  • Home Group
  • Antique Trader
  • Arts & Crafts Homes
  • Bank Note Reporter
  • Cabin Life
  • Cuisine at Home
  • Fine Gardening
  • Fine Woodworking
  • Green Building Advisor
  • Garden Gate
  • Horticulture
  • Keep Craft Alive
  • Log Home Living
  • Military Trader/Vehicles
  • Numismatic News
  • Numismaster
  • Old Cars Weekly
  • Old House Journal
  • Period Homes
  • Popular Woodworking
  • Script
  • ShopNotes
  • Sports Collectors Digest
  • Threads
  • Timber Home Living
  • Traditional Building
  • Woodsmith
  • World Coin News
  • Writer's Digest
Active Interest Media logo
X
X
This is a dialog window which overlays the main content of the page. The modal window is a 'site map' of the most critical areas of the site. Pressing the Escape (ESC) button will close the modal and bring you back to where you were on the page.

Main Menu

  • How-To
  • Design
  • Tools & Materials
  • Video
  • Blogs
  • Forum
  • Project Guides
  • Reader Projects
  • Magazine
  • Members
  • FHB House

Podcasts

  • FHB Podcast
  • ProTalk

Webinars

  • Upcoming and On-Demand

Podcasts

  • FHB Podcast
  • ProTalk

Webinars

  • Upcoming and On-Demand

Popular Topics

  • Kitchens
  • Business
  • Bedrooms
  • Roofs
  • Architecture and Design
  • Green Building
  • Decks
  • Framing
  • Safety
  • Remodeling
  • Bathrooms
  • Windows
  • Tilework
  • Ceilings
  • HVAC

Magazine

  • Current Issue
  • Past Issues
  • Magazine Index
  • Subscribe
  • Online Archive
  • Author Guidelines

All Access

  • Member Home
  • Start Free Trial
  • Gift Membership

Online Learning

  • Courses
  • Project Guides
  • Reader Projects
  • Podcast

More

  • FHB Ambassadors
  • FHB House
  • Customer Support

Account

  • Log In
  • Join

Newsletter

Get home building tips, offers, and expert advice in your inbox

Signing you up...

This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.
See all newsletters
See all newsletters

Follow

  • X
  • YouTube
  • instagram
  • facebook
  • pinterest
  • Tiktok

Join All Access

Become a member and get instant access to thousands of videos, how-tos, tool reviews, and design features.

Start Your Free Trial

Subscribe

FHB Magazine

Start your subscription today and save up to 70%

Subscribe

Enjoy unlimited access to Fine Homebuilding. Join Now

Already a member? Log in

We hope you’ve enjoyed your free articles. To keep reading, become a member today.

Get complete site access to expert advice, how-to videos, Code Check, and more, plus the print magazine.

Start your FREE trial

Already a member? Log in

Privacy Policy Update

We use cookies, pixels, script and other tracking technologies to analyze and improve our service, to improve and personalize content, and for advertising to you. We also share information about your use of our site with third-party social media, advertising and analytics partners. You can view our Privacy Policy here and our Terms of Use here.

Cookies

Analytics

These cookies help us track site metrics to improve our sites and provide a better user experience.

Advertising/Social Media

These cookies are used to serve advertisements aligned with your interests.

Essential

These cookies are required to provide basic functions like page navigation and access to secure areas of the website.

Delete My Data

Delete all cookies and associated data