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   plumbbill | Dec 19, 2008 06:12am | #1

   Paid by the fitting?

   Too bad it wasn't copper that would be some good beer money ;-)

   I've been plumbing my whole life for the most part, & can't say I've ever seen a shower valve plumbed in a tub/shower combination that way before.

    

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   Sphere | Dec 19, 2008 03:50pm | #2

   Hey now, it was only my third try. (G)

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   FatRoman | Dec 19, 2008 04:53pm | #5

   Those extra turns are to comply with the "Global Building Code", right?'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb

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   Sphere | Dec 19, 2008 05:05pm | #6

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   FatRoman | Dec 19, 2008 05:11pm | #8

   BTW, do you cope the inside corners of your wiring?That's a nice, tight 90 deg joint on the left :)'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb

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   Sphere | Dec 19, 2008 05:18pm | #9

   I found this in my kitchen wall...

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   Shoemaker1 | Dec 19, 2008 07:27pm | #10

   That plumbing looks like the job I'm on now. 2 suites with out a hot water heater and I still get hot water from one tub.
   That system is a anti reverse, pressure balance, anti vibration, areation unit. That excededs the Global Bulding Code and I would ask at least 400 to remove it. and another 400 to reinstall the new version.
   Oh by the way I found an inpection tag from the local inspecter that had suite 2 marked on suite 3's gas line. Traced it back with the plumber and some one was getting the others gas bill for years. Still can't fiqure out who is giving me free hot water to the one suite.
   The dryer was vented into the attic for years. What is the R value of lint?

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   Piffin | Dec 19, 2008 08:54pm | #16

   LMAO - that was good! Don't forget that the global value for lint is higher than the US rates, until we sign Kyoto 

    

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   FatRoman | Dec 19, 2008 07:49pm | #11

   Paper nail plates made in China just aren't what they used to be, are they.'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb

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   Sphere | Dec 19, 2008 07:53pm | #12

   The guy that built this half of the house was a real pc.o' work.  every time I start a new fix , I start with the " Damm you Martin" he was a painter, not a builder.

   But being as he died in the middle of the process, I can't bitch too much, his wife and son finished as best they could. Yes I have sheetrock up that is backwards facing, and running the wrong direction on the rafters.

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   Piffin | Dec 19, 2008 08:49pm | #15

   I should have shot a photo of the jigsaw wall I openned up yesterday! It had been poorly built eighty years ago, and then the window arrangement was changed about three times in its history.And yes, I openned it to do a new window! LOL May end up rebuilding the whole durn wall. 

    

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   Sphere | Dec 19, 2008 09:01pm | #18

   I had a yesterday like that my self..that window in the Balloon frame I posted about?  Well, I tackled the inside yestiddy and the raised panel trim below the window. It had settled so far that the panel was crushed and the base board was tilting INTO the room at the top. A real high (12") base with a 4" cap , was pooched out like a book.

   I was ready to get under the house and inspect that sill, but I am already sure it's gone. I got another window 6' away doing the same thing. It's gonna have to wait till better weather before I open that can o' worms and the 1830's era clapboards.

   Good HO's , they understand and have just "hired" me on full time retainer.."Just don't exceed X amt. of $$$ a Month please" and " here is where we'd like to start, but by all means, do what YOU think is most important"  Great folks, I been with them for about two yrs now, doing the "as needed" type work..If I had 7 more of that type of customer, I'd be like a pig in mud happy. But lordy this house is in rough shape...about 4K SQFT Greek Revival..lots of nice work, just old age is killing it.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

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   NickNukeEm | Dec 19, 2008 09:04pm | #19

   I did a kitchen renovation earlier this year.  After pulling the door casings from an opening that lead to a hall, I found a 14-2 cable that the previous owner had snaked between the trimmer and the jamb.  They had shoved the cable as close to middle as possible, but the owner turned white when I showed him the nail hole that pierced the cable.  Nicked the ground, but that was it.  They had lived there for about 15 years with it like that.  Took maybe an hour to fish a cable thru the basement.

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   Ted W. | Dec 19, 2008 09:39pm | #20

   While we're on the topic of FTW Homebuilding, here's a wall I opened some years ago and just had to take a photo...

    

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   Needless to say, the room was a bit cold in the winter. =)

    

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    Sphere | Dec 19, 2008 10:17pm | #21

    But it only "felt" cold..Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

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    Ted W. | Dec 20, 2008 02:47am | #22

    Haaa haaaa haaaaaa haaaaaaaaa haaa haaaa haaaa.....

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12. 
    artacoma | Dec 20, 2008 04:42am | #23

    More fun

    
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    BillHartmann | Dec 20, 2008 09:57am | #27

    I didn't know that the GBC had approved of the use of the new invisable vent pipe yet..
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    artacoma | Dec 20, 2008 10:09am | #28

    It was in the way of the medicine cabinet
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    ToolFreakBlue | Dec 21, 2008 12:50am | #31

    That was the GBC required air gap.TFB (Bill)

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    rez | Dec 20, 2008 08:45pm | #30

    I'll raise you a nickel... 

     

     

     

     

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    MSA1 | Dec 20, 2008 05:02am | #24

    Speaking of kitchens, we did one last winter. One wall housed the basement stairs with the fridge in a "fridge hole" right next to the stair door.

    I guess over time fridges got larger cause the previous homeowner couldnt get his to fit.

    His solution?

    Simply demo the wall between the stairs and the "fridge hole" to gain 4 inches. Little did he realize it was a bearing wall supporting the second floor and second floor staircase. The only thing left of the wall was the plaster to the basement.

    I dont know how it lived but we ended up having to use some steel plate to beef it back up.

    Luckily the HO was a good guy and didnt mind the exra structual work. 

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   England1 | Dec 19, 2008 03:51pm | #3

   Kind of looks like the what Curly put together in the three stooges

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   jhausch | Dec 19, 2008 04:24pm | #4

   Take the whole assembly to the hardware store and say, "I need one of these"

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   rez | Dec 19, 2008 05:07pm | #7

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   Piffin | Dec 19, 2008 08:45pm | #14

   That looks like plumbing by Eshcer to me 

    

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   popawheelie | Dec 20, 2008 06:38pm | #29

   He was drunk. Or on drugs. Not that there's anything wrong with that ;^)

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   Varoom | Dec 19, 2008 08:03pm | #13

   Looks like the "plumber" chopped away at a structural wall.  Nice.

   And was that a female's "wash all the privates with one blast" shower?

   I'm a DIY'er and even for me and my ilk, that is bizarre.

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   Scott | Dec 19, 2008 08:56pm | #17

   FTW?????

   So I assume its a shower stall and the top two outlets are for shower heads. What's that one below the valve? Is it for an extra-good navel cleaning?

   And why do both the hot and cold pipes seem to disappear into the same piece of copper at the bottom?!?!?!? LOL

   
   

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   arcflash | Dec 20, 2008 05:23am | #25

   Its quite simple, if you think about it.............more pvc pipe equals more quality alone time with the can of glue! Spend five minutes in a three foot trench on your knees gluing schedule 80 on a hot day, you'll be lucky to land on your feet climbing out!

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   Jed42 | Dec 20, 2008 06:51am | #26

   And was that a female's "wash all the privates with one blast" shower?

   Yes, there were three body jets.  The two PVC that go down do actually go to a hot and cold.  The picture distorts that a bit.

   The two that disappear into the wall to the left feed 2 - yes - 2 MORE valves for 2 showerheads that were coming out of the ceiling.  So that's a lot of water, right?  You're thinking "That's probably a pretty big shower", right?

   Well, no.  The shower was 5' long (pretty good) and 24" wide.  The floor was perfectly level.  Thinset used for the 2 "mud" pans.  It went...as I removed it...

   Tile...

   Thinset (1 1/2")...

   Rubber moisture barrier (up the wall a whole 2")...

   More thinset (1 1/2"...

   1/2" OSB (soaked)...

   3/4" OSB (subfloor...also soaked)

   The guy tried, I guess.  The neighbors say "Well, he was 'in the business'".  The tile on the walls was on 5/8 drywall.

   BTW...the wall he hacked at was not bearing.  Scissor trusses are parallel to this wall.  The good thing about removing all this stuff was that he did not waste time drilling holes.  Just notched the studs. 

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   mikeroop | Dec 21, 2008 06:09am | #32

   how well did the jets work good pressure good volume? i know you turned it on out of curiosity

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   Jed42 | Dec 21, 2008 05:10pm | #33

   how well did the jets work good pressure good volume? i know you turned it on out of curiosity

   Believe it or not, as curious as I was, I was able to control myself and not even attempt to turn this on.  As a matter of fact, we've been at the house a week, and just turned the water on yesterday--after we isolated this bathroom with a couple ball valves and turned them off.  There's so much wrong with so much stuff in this room...I decided it wasn't worth the risk.

   I am assuming it didn't work as well as the guy had hoped, though. 

   Isn't there some rule about body jets about all the lines to them have to be exactly the same distance from the valve??  Or something like that??

   At any rate, we installed the new valve last night.  Ours doesn't look as artistic as this one did, but it works, if that counts for anything...?No Coffee No Workee!