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Keeping sand b/w Pavers on sloping lawn

JohnT8 | Posted in Construction Techniques on March 29, 2005 08:08am

In a week or two, I’m going to be helping redo some pavers.  Brick-sized pavers are located on a sloping front lawn.  The problem has been that the drainage over the pavers has begun to wash the sand out from between them. 

I was just planning on hosing out the remaining sand and then sneaking a little concrete into it before sweeping it back into place.

Anyone with a better solution? 

jt8

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  1. ACI | Mar 29, 2005 08:16pm | #1

    The sand has to be compacted. Sometimes in a few applications. I.E. add sand, compact, repeat. Sweep the remaining excess dry sand over the
    surface filling the joints. You will have to repeat this over the next few days as the sand settles and the rain compacts it. Excess sand on the pavers will cushion the surface and the vibration will assist in filling the joints.

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    SYSOP | Mar 29, 2005 09:01pm | #2

    JT8,

    I know of 2 different approaches/products that can help you out. First there is a sand stabilizing product call Sandlock. Heres the description: Sandlock is a non-toxic, organic sand stabilizer. Simply mix it with the sand you sweep into the joints and spray with water. SandLock binds the sand particles together and helps minimize sand loss, weed growth, and ants. It is particularly well suited for any type paver with wider joints.

    The other product is one that I have used at my house on several ocaasions and it is called Joint stabilizer heres the description:

    One-step seals pavers and bonds joint sand. Unilock Joint Sand Stabilizer Sealer is an epoxy modified, hard surface, single component, solvent-free, VOC compliant penetrating sealer that enhances the appearance of pavers while providing excellent weather and water resistance. It increases the paver’s durability and stain and corrosion resistance while preserving the natural beauty of the paver.

    Simply do the install and spray the product on. I am really happy with the results of this type of product This is a unilock product the one I got locally was made by a different manufacturer and the name escapes me right now. I will look tonight and get back to you. I highly recomend this approach. Has been 2 years and the sand between the joints is still as solid as the day I did the install. -M

     

    SYSOP
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    1. JohnT8 | Mar 29, 2005 10:59pm | #3

      That would be a novelty...  using a product designed for the problem!   Do you remember if this is a Lowes type item?

       jt8

      Opportunity doesn't knock. You knock, opportunity answers. -- American Proverb

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        SYSOP | Mar 30, 2005 03:55pm | #6

        Not sure if Lowes has it, I bought mine at a local mason supply/stoneyard. Call around I am sure anyone that sells pavers would carry products similar to what I suggested. -MSYSOP[email protected]Have you updated your forum profile lately? Please Do!

        1. JohnT8 | Mar 31, 2005 06:05am | #10

          I've got a gravel/concrete/paver/steps place about 5 mins from home.  I'll give them a call if Lowes doesn't have it.   I know... I know...I should support the locally owned business first, but darn it, I can hit Lowes on my lunch whereas the concrete place is  a special trip.

          If it works, it will save a step (ie. removing the sand still in the cracks).jt8

          Opportunity doesn't knock. You knock, opportunity answers. -- American Proverb

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            SYSOP | Mar 31, 2005 03:37pm | #11

            Good luck and let me know how it goes. I dont have a Lowes locally so have no idea what they carry or dont and besides I always support the local guy, :) -MSYSOP[email protected]Have you updated your forum profile lately? Please Do!

      2. BrianWI | Mar 30, 2005 08:02pm | #8

        ive done plenty of repair to pavers. water to get out sand lulls the process. a shopvac will get out a good 1/2" to 1" of sand and aircompressor will get out the rest. the 2 in combination work well especially if air is limited.

        i usually do it to tighten edges remove broken pavers or if sand has become fertile. diasanon for infestations.

        this will help if you go the replacement route. i have to print sysops post. i have pavers intalled under a drip edge. ive never heard of that stuff. but it should save some time on the broom after rainfalls.

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          SYSOP | Mar 30, 2005 10:25pm | #9

          The first time I saw this done was around a pool, the sand kept ending up in the pool, after a good day of swimmers climbing in and out. A landscaper friend of mine recomeneded the sand stabilizer. It also adds a slight sheen to the pavers which is kinda nice I think.  -MSYSOP[email protected]Have you updated your forum profile lately? Please Do!

    2. FastEddie1 | Mar 29, 2005 11:14pm | #4

      Hey!  Your post reads like an advertisement.  Maybe we should report you to the system administrator.

       

       

      :)

       I'm sorry, I thought you wanted it done the right way.

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        SYSOP | Mar 30, 2005 04:00pm | #7

        You know after I posted that message I looked back and thought that it did look an awful lot like advertising...

        I wish I had known about these products when I used to do paver installation, would have made a big difference in the final product I was installing. SYSOP[email protected]Have you updated your forum profile lately? Please Do!

  3. Stash | Mar 29, 2005 11:57pm | #5

    John- Yeah, what SYSOP says. You go to any paver supplier and should find some version of the poly-sand. I get it ready-to-spread for ~$30 for a 60# bag. Make sure the pavers are dry when you brush it in. You will still need to re apply periodically, as it does wash out. Its still better than sand.

    Stash

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