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Kerdi-Devil’s in the details-

Henley | Posted in Construction Techniques on March 7, 2009 05:59am

This shower I’m working on has two 45 degree corners
in the curb.
Standard Kerdi inside corners won’t work and I’d rather not
order a tube of Kerdi seal.

Has anyone figured a way or product to use instead?

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  1. jimAKAblue | Mar 07, 2009 06:02pm | #1

    why not order thesealant?

     

    1. Henley | Mar 07, 2009 06:05pm | #2

      I'm impatient.

    2. Henley | Mar 07, 2009 06:06pm | #3

      Plus, I'll bet it's just silicone.

      1. Westcoast | Mar 07, 2009 07:14pm | #4

        Why not call Schluter and see what they recommend.

        1. Henley | Mar 07, 2009 07:39pm | #6

          Yeah, I should.
          Monday Altho we all know they will say buy their stuff.

      2. YesMaam27577 | Mar 07, 2009 11:56pm | #18

        I'll bet it's not silicone. It's probably a urethane sealant. There's a product called Sikkiflex that is amazing stuff for such applications.And in a pinch, there's usually some urethane sealant somewhere in the big box stores.

        Politics is the antithesis of problem solving.

        1. betterbuiltnyc | Mar 08, 2009 04:15am | #19

          I don't know what it is, but have used it a few times. Slick stuff, very sticky and has alot of body. Went back to using thinset because it didn't make sense to use two different seam sealing techniques, and we cyphered how to do them all with thinset.

  2. jayzog | Mar 07, 2009 07:21pm | #5

    I have done a couple of kerdi neo angle showers. I just folded and overlaped flaps of kerdi band 2 different ways, just thinset,no kerdi fix.

    I always fill the pan to the top of the curb and leave it for a day as a test, have yet to have 1 leak. 

    1. Henley | Mar 07, 2009 07:42pm | #7

      That's what I was wondering. If overlapping was good enough. You don't get the 2"
      over lap that way...? I read some threads over at John bridge and they do
      similar. but you still get that one little spot that
      never truly gets overlapped. I wonder?

      1. jayzog | Mar 07, 2009 07:47pm | #8

        You are right about the 1 little spot right at the corner that doesn't overlap, probably should use the kerdifix there, but I never have.

        1. Henley | Mar 07, 2009 07:56pm | #9

          I just wish I knew what the heck
          the Kerdi fix is! Probably nothing special.

          1. billybatts | Mar 07, 2009 08:14pm | #11

            probably polyurethane caulk

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    Dinosaur | Mar 07, 2009 08:03pm | #10

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    This is a 90º corner patch but you can cut and install a patch for a 45º corner the same way. The floor flaps won't overlap quite as much but will still do the job. Make them wider if you are nervous; I cut this one out of a 6"-wide strip and folded it 4"/2".

    No special sealant; only thinset. This was the Kerdi rep's recommendation at the time (2004).

    No leaks.

     

    Dinosaur

    How now, Mighty Sauron, that thou art not brought
    low by this? For thine evil pales before that which
    foolish men call Justice....

    1. billybatts | Mar 07, 2009 08:15pm | #12

      strange double murder out in your area this week....bummer

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        Dinosaur | Mar 07, 2009 10:30pm | #15

        What?

        Dinosaur

        How now, Mighty Sauron, that thou art not broughtlow by this? For thine evil pales before that whichfoolish men call Justice....

        1. billybatts | Mar 09, 2009 12:49am | #20

          some cardiologist killed his two kids and attempted suicide

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            Dinosaur | Mar 10, 2009 02:02am | #21

            That wasn't in this area; IIRC it was down towards Montreal.

            Dinosaur

            How now, Mighty Sauron, that thou art not broughtlow by this? For thine evil pales before that whichfoolish men call Justice....

    2. Henley | Mar 07, 2009 08:17pm | #13

      Yup, that what I was my plan! Ok, So I'll give it a try. Then fill pan and check as suggested. Thanks guy's

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        Dinosaur | Mar 07, 2009 10:32pm | #16

        Have fun.

        Dinosaur

        How now, Mighty Sauron, that thou art not broughtlow by this? For thine evil pales before that whichfoolish men call Justice....

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    Mongo | Mar 07, 2009 10:28pm | #14

    http://forums.taunton.com/tp-breaktime/messages?msg=86714.25

    1. Henley | Mar 07, 2009 10:38pm | #17

      Thanks Mongo, I've studied your thread over and over! LOL Seriously, you explained the product very well. I know you use Schluters caulk, for me it would sit
      for another year after I used these two dabs. If that's what it need to be, I'm not complaining. Yet, so many people don't at all? Kind of a head scratcher

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        Mongo | Mar 10, 2009 07:53am | #23

        I used to know for a fact, but I'm going off a faded memory that Kerdi-Fix is silane-based.The Kerdi Tech boys told me a urethane sealer would work fine. I didn't ask about silicon.

        1. Henley | Mar 10, 2009 02:18pm | #24

          Hey Mongo, A general question- When you are smoothing the Kerdi into
          the thin set, are you lightly pressing it in or really smooshing
          the thin set? I think maybe I was working too hard. It layed flat nicely with no problems, but it did seam like I was squeezing a lot of thin set out.

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            Mongo | Mar 10, 2009 09:05pm | #25

            I first go over it with the palms of my hands. Light enough so I don't drag it sideways, but with just enough pressure to slightly embed it. Pressure? 2 or 3 out of 10.When I go over it with the drywall knife, the knife is at a pretty low angle. I don't use
            "he-man" pressure, maybe medium. Again, I'm not looking to pull the thinset around. I just want to fully bed the Kerdi in the thinset. If I see a bulge of thinset building up in front of the knife, I need to lighten up on the pressure or lower the angle of the knife blade...or a combination of the two. Pressure is maybe 4 out of 10.When I get to the edge of a sheet I will raise the knife angle a bit and increase pressure. There I do want to pull thinset out from between the overlapped sheets of Kerdi. Again, it's not so much pressure that I'm ending up with a dry seam. I'm just looking to feather the seam smooth. Maybe 6 out of 10.Pretty wishy-washy post...but it's tough for me to describe.

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            Sphere | Mar 11, 2009 12:01am | #26

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          3. Henley | Mar 11, 2009 01:22am | #27

            No, I get it. Yeah, I was pushing a little bulge ahead all the time. Didn't
            seam right, but worked out in the end. I tend to get a little over zealous with new stuff.

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    JeffBuck | Mar 10, 2009 07:12am | #22

    someone do a test ... see if Redguard eats kerdi.

    Jeff

        Buck Construction

     Artistry In Carpentry

         Pittsburgh Pa

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