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   cargin | Apr 01, 2008 01:25am | #1

   AWKO8

   You have to give us alittle more information than that.

   What did you bid? How much SR? Exterior wall insulation? How thick?

   LF of wall? What walls are exising? Hangin SR. taping and texture, painting? Ceilings?

   I could ask more questions but you get the point. I'm sure there are guys that would be willing to help from 500 to 1000 miles away but we need more info.

   Rich

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   AWK08 | Apr 01, 2008 01:45am | #4

   100 SHEETS OF DRYWALL, 70 WALLS, 30 CEILING, WHATS FAIR PRICE JUST TO HANG PER SHEET, NO FINISHING, I SUBBED THAT

   AND PRICE PER LINEAR FOOT OF 2BY4 INTERIOR WALLS, JUST FRAMING

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   BarryE | Apr 01, 2008 01:46am | #5

   calm down, what are you shouting for? ;)

   Barry E-Remodeler

    

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   AWK08 | Apr 01, 2008 02:10am | #6

   sory bout the caps and the shouts, girlfreinds son just came home havin an asthma attack, and she aint answerin her phone, i was a little excited ha!!!

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   BarryE | Apr 01, 2008 02:13am | #7

   hope he's okaywelcome to breaktime

   Barry E-Remodeler

    

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   AWK08 | Apr 01, 2008 02:30am | #8

   yeah he's ok, had me worry'd  a little, have a17 yrold myself, but no experience with asthma,

   any idea on those prices

   thanx for the welcome

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   AWK08 | Apr 01, 2008 02:33am | #9

   posted on another site had 2 replys all day, one tellin me to buy "means cost estimator" and one tellin me they hate the steelers,

    i'll be on breaktime from now on

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   MSA1 | Apr 01, 2008 03:09am | #13

   "Means Cost Estimator" is a great book.........if you have an uneven leg on your desk.

   When I price out labor I figure out how long the job should (and probably will) take me. Then I apply that to what I need to make everyday to keep the business running.

   Even after that I may add 5-10% for error.

   Doesnt matter what "contractor A" will do the job for, your overhead may be totally different.

   Figure out what you need and stick to it.

   You'll look like a schmuck to go in and lower your price to try and stay in the running. Your client will either no longer have respect for you, or worse think the first price was trying to rip him off.

   Just takes a little time and experience. Sell yourself. Perception is king here. Sometimes the best pitch will out shine the better product.

   I dont think anyone will be able to give you a much better answer than that.

   Edited 3/31/2008 8:40 pm ET by MSA1

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   AWK08 | Apr 01, 2008 03:18am | #15

   msa1

   thanx for the great advice, i didnt plan on lowering my price, was just tryin to double check my prices with a different formula, saw some linear foot, per sheet prices on another site, but dont know if they were up to date, so came across breaktime during my search, and wala, im askin questions, thats how ya learn right??

   i do think our small 2-3 guys company already sold this one,

    thanx again everyone for the replys

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   MSA1 | Apr 01, 2008 03:37am | #17

   Hope it works out for you. I've never really been able to use the formulas you're referring to, to many regional considerations.

   Welcome to BT by the way.

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   Jim_Allen | Apr 01, 2008 03:41am | #18

   Just double whatever you think its worth and you'll only be a little low. Bob's next test date: 12/10/07

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   Lansdown | Apr 01, 2008 06:16am | #28

   Best advice so far!

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   sledgehammer | Apr 01, 2008 03:52am | #20

   If it's labor only you can't lose money. You might be working for a dollar an hour but it's still not a loss. Since you mentioned no prices... If I were subbing this out I'd guestamate the cost around 9 grand, plus my markup... customers final cost not a dime less then 12 grand.

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    AWK08 | Apr 01, 2008 04:04am | #22

    thanx slegde, did a 2nd floor apartment last year, and it was right around that, this one has some concrete cutting for plumbing, and two underground windows for bedroom egress also so gonna be higher for this one

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    BarryE | Apr 01, 2008 02:44am | #11

    I really wouldn't worry about lf or sf prices. Break your tasks down, figure how many hours it will take you to hang the drywall, for instance, and then multiply by your hourly rate. lf or sf prices, you'll only screw yourself on that type of jobAre you just starting out?

    Barry E-Remodeler

     

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    AWK08 | Apr 01, 2008 03:09am | #14

    been doin all types of remodels and construction for 3 years now, before that electrician for 20 some years, so ive been around this forever, workin with/for another guy for past 3 years, but he usually handles bids, we're a little slow now, and he didnt show any interest in bidding this one, so i did it myself, he does a by the day bid also, but i think he underbids alot, he's always cryin, id like to know how to do this myself, since i know more about doin construction than he does, but its his co.

    these are the only 2 areas im concerned about, electrical, plumb, etc. i have down

    just tryin to double check these 2

    thanx

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   cargin | Apr 01, 2008 04:18am | #24

   AWKO8

   I use National Estimator by Craftsman to double check my estimates. There are alot of other ones.

   I downloaded this for $69 for 11 different cost books.

   http://craftsman-book.com/products/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=39

   Below are a couple of pages and then an estimate.

   I put the rate in at $45/hour. I putoverhead at 20%, profit at 20% and 10% for continegency.

   But nothing replaces a experienced eye for the job and tuition paid to the school of hard knocks.

   Hope this helps.

   Edit I forgot to apply attachments. I will do them in another post.

   Rich

   Edited 3/31/2008 9:26 pm ET by cargin

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   cargin | Apr 01, 2008 04:20am | #25

   AWKO8

   Welcome to BT.

   If you click on your name a dialog box will appear and you can fill out your profile.

   Helps us to know who we are talking to.

   Click on any of ours and you will see what I mean.

   Rich

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   cargin | Apr 01, 2008 04:27am | #26

   AWKO8

   Here are attachements.

    

   
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   AWK08 | Apr 01, 2008 06:09am | #27

   thanx cargin, for the help

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   loucarabasi | Apr 01, 2008 01:31am | #2

   I'm in southern NJ, I get 50.00 to 65.00 per hour. 

   I believe its a fair price.

   -Lou

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   AWK08 | Apr 01, 2008 01:42am | #3

   IM JUST LOOKING FOR A FAIR PRICE FOR FRAMING INTERIOR 2BY4 WALLS, BY THE LINEAR FEET, AND PRICE PER SHEET TO HANG 5/8 DRYWALL, I DID AN HOURLY/DAILY PRICE TO BID THIS, SINCE OWNER SUPPLYING MATERIALS, BUT WOULD LIKE TO DOUBLE CHECK MY PRICES BY LINEAR FOOT PRICES

   THANX ALL FOR THE REPLYS

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   Pelipeth | Apr 01, 2008 02:43am | #10

   Keep it REAL simple. Charge by the hr., what ever the going rate is for a good basic all around man. You could not compete with the price of a ROCKER, he does it every day, all day. The same would hold true of most other trades, if that's what they do all day long. I have a buddy who can hang a prehung door in 12 minutes and the caseing miters will hold water. I find that for the most part clients like it when the crew or the one man show, is on the small side. Not alot of different people around, plus it gives you time to bond with them, leads to future business.

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   AWK08 | Apr 01, 2008 03:21am | #16

   thanx for the reply, good advice, i'll use

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   AWK08 | Apr 01, 2008 03:03am | #12

   thanx for the reply lou

   i bid by the day, breaking down each phase, and how many days i thought to complete, no finishing drywall, subbed that out, but just not sure bout the framing and hangin sr, so thought id check you guys and see if anyone had any linear or square foot prices for labor ???

   thanx

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   dug | Apr 01, 2008 03:48am | #19

   awk08,

     I got a call awhile back from a guy who wanted someone to frame some walls in a basement for him. He was "acting" as a general contractor for his friend. He wanted to know what I would charge him per Ln. ft. to frame 120' of wall knock a few studs out and set  two lvl beams. I explained to him that this was remodeling and ya really can't go by linear feet.   I finally agreed to go look at the job and his basic 120' wall was more like this...........................

          +/_ 140' Ln. ft. of walls which consisted of about 12 walls, four regular door openings and a closet with opening for bi-folds of no known size and a closet under the stairs. One wall actually needed to close out the stairs from top to bottom next to the concrete basement wall.

        Turns out the beam that was required was not lvl's but a beam that weighed a couple hundred pounds and needed concrete cut out and footings poured. Oh, and no access to the backyard  basement door for the lumber truck.

           .......and furniture and kids toys everywhere

      I gave him a price and never heard back from him

      ......not real sure what it came out to per Linear foot

             dug

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   AWK08 | Apr 01, 2008 04:01am | #21

   thanx for the reply dug

   been on them furniture, kids toys and oh ya the skitzy dog too!!!

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   G80104 | Apr 01, 2008 04:15am | #23

   If you can get  $14 a sheet to hang & $8 a sq.ft (floor area) to frame you might do ok!