FHB Logo Facebook LinkedIn Email Pinterest Twitter X Instagram Tiktok YouTube Plus Icon Close Icon Navigation Search Icon Navigation Search Icon Arrow Down Icon Video Guide Icon Article Guide Icon Modal Close Icon Guide Search Icon Skip to content
Subscribe
Log In
  • How-To
  • Design
  • Tools & Materials
  • Restoration
  • Videos
  • Blogs
  • Forum
  • Magazine
  • Members
  • FHB House
  • Podcast
Log In

Discussion Forum

Discussion Forum

Laminate Countertop

drkru | Posted in General Discussion on December 1, 2004 09:37am

Hello –

Jut finished my first custom laminate kitchen countertop for a customer yesterday.  Everything turned out real nice, but in finishing the laminate application I couldn’t help but think there are some better ways of doing things.

How do you folks cut the long strips for the (self) edge?  I cut the strips 1/2″+ proud of finished size with a scoring blade and straight edge and this seemed to work fine.  Also, how do you trim for inside corners and at the wall “dead ends” where the router/trimmer (I was using my 2 1/4 Bosch) base would interfere?  For the edge laminate I pre-trimmed with the router and the laminate clamped to a piece of hardwood of matching height (width).  Upon application I made sure these areas were applied as precisely as possible and then sanded smooth.  How would you trim the top sheet where it meets the wall? 

I had two very minor burnt spots on the edge pieces from trimming the top (I did edges/sides first and then top).  Although I used tape I still “whitened” the Formica a bit  in spots.  I found that the bearing was seizing and not free spinning becasue of glue build-up.  Luckily the laminate had white in the texture and the customer did not notice until I pointed out the error and thus they did not have issue.  In the future I will use some sort of edge lubricant (ideas?) and WD-40 on the bit. 

Last question, do you folks find (If I were to add more counters to my repertoire) that a Bosch or similar trim kit is worth it?

Thanks,

Derek

Reply
  • X
  • facebook
  • linkedin
  • pinterest
  • email
  • add to favorites Log in or Sign up to save your favorite articles

Replies

  1. HeavyDuty | Dec 01, 2004 10:11pm | #1

    In the future I will use some sort of edge lubricant (ideas?) and WD-40 on the bit.

    I use vaseline with a non ball bearing bit. Don't use WD-40 on a ball bearing bit, it will eventually seize.

  2. Piffin | Dec 01, 2004 10:23pm | #2

    I just use a file to finish close ends.

     

     

    Welcome to the
    Taunton University of
    Knowledge FHB Campus at Breaktime.
     where ...
    Excellence is its own reward!

  3. jackplane | Dec 01, 2004 11:17pm | #3

    I pre-fab all those pieces as much as possible in a shop with tablesaws, files etc.

     This means less time on installation, less mess to clean up at the homeowner's.

  4. Summerwood | Dec 02, 2004 12:20am | #4

    For trimming the edge pieces, get one of these.  Pays for itself on the first job.

    View ImageLaminae Slitter $89.99 at Tool Crib.

     

    I set the slitter to no more than an 1/8" wider than edge, and line the bottom up with the bottom of the core stock.  I think that your bearing burning problem could be related to all of the glue you are cutting through and picking up cutting through the 1/2" waste.  With a clean and sharp cutter you don't need to tape, and that will eliminate a lot of filing along the edge.

     A trick to unstick the bearing is to fill the top cap of the lacquer thinner can with thinner, and set the bit (still in router, turned off) in the cap and rest against a wall for 5 mins (more as necessary).  Then manually turn the bearing and scrape off excess glue with your fingernail to get it spinning freely again.  I also usually have a handful of extra 3-flute cutters on hand, in case a bearing really locks up.

    As for router set ups, I have a handful of the basic laminate trimmers (DeWalt, PC, couple of junk Riobi's ).   I think that the bells of whistles of the full kits have more equip. than I need for most counter work.  Countertop installers probably disagree. I like to have at least a couple when doing tops so the helper can also be routing, or when doing wood work each one is set up with a different bit for small profiles. 

    Regards,

    Scott

     

    1. drkru | Dec 02, 2004 01:31am | #5

      Summerwood -

      I am going to have to take a look at that tool!  Seems as though it would save considerable time and then I could do as others have suggested and prefab a bunch of pieces in the shop and just file the ends that can't be trimmed.

      I'll try the thinner for the bearing too - Thanks!

      Thanks everyone for all for the suggestions.

      Derek

      1. highfigh | Dec 02, 2004 01:42am | #6

        If you decide not to get the trimmer and you have a helper, have them lay the sheet out on a work surface and mark the strips needed and cut them with a 1/8" bit, using a straightedge guide for the router base(whatever kind is used). Doesn't take too much time and the helper gets some experience working with laminate. The knife and straightedge works, but takes a fair amount of time and if the blade decides to wander, wastes material.
        "I cut this piece four times and it's still too short."

        1. drkru | Dec 02, 2004 02:49am | #8

          Good idea.  I am always looking for ways to give my helper experience that doesn't cost me too much.  Great guy, but he's been having trouble giving me accurate measurements ever since his tape that listed 1/4ths, 1/8ths, and 1/16ths broke.

          Thanks,

          Derek

  5. User avater
    PeterJ | Dec 02, 2004 01:50am | #7

    Everything under the laminate sun here. Good folks too.

    http://www.specialtytools.com/cgi-bin/web_store/web_store.cgi?page=router_bits_all/routerbits.html&cart_id=6636647_14322

    Slitter is one of those tools you'll find indispensible if you do much laminate. A couple tests to set up for different laminate thickness and it's cake.

    Also got an extended shank flush trimmer from them....puts bearing further away from cutter...less fouling with contact cement. I use bearing lube and check often for gooey bearing. Also use combo roundover-trimmer. One swipe with a file and you're flush Once in a while use. Get real laminate files, better than a mill  b*stard.

    PJ

    Whatever you can do or dream you can,
    Begin it
    Boldness has genius, power, and magic in it.                             Goethe

    1. drkru | Dec 02, 2004 02:52am | #9

      "Get real laminate files, better than a mill  b*stard." - I thought there was a specific tool for this.  Found out the hard way (slit thumb) that checking the corners with a finger isn't very smart.

      1. calvin | Dec 02, 2004 03:56am | #10

        Inside corners on the top lam. When rough cutting.

        Safer to drill a hole in the sheet where the direction changes, cut to it with a circ. saw, or rout it if you have the patience.  If you cut a square corner, good chance of a crack coming out of it as you flop it around.

        Do not file the inside corner sharp.  Leave what the router leaves you with a lam trimming bit.  Again, sure to maybe crack out of that corner.

        Get some old venetian blinds to lay under the pc. during glue up.  Much easier to store a bunch of em than dowels etc.  And if anyone needs any, I've got the market cornered.  A friend knew I would take them, so he brought over 10-7' long big blinds........I cannot keep them any longer, still haven't cut em apart yet and their in the way.  Anyone?Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.

        Quittin' Time

  6. joebevel | Dec 03, 2004 03:38am | #11

    Cut your edgebanding on the tablesaw or buy it in precuts from your supplier.

    Filing is a fact of life with laminate & it only gets easier with practice.

    Last, throw away those bearing guided bits & use the solid carbide flush cutters

    with a stick lubricant like Trim-Ease. The quickest way to ruin your day is to have a

    bearing sieze up when your trimming.

    1. highfigh | Dec 03, 2004 05:48am | #12

      The blinds are vinyl, right? Another way to keep the laminate from sticking when you don't want it to is with PVC tubing. I have seen ol' Norm using cardboard strips for this. Not a bad way if you don't mind pieces of dirt and dust underneath. I don't like lumps in my counters, so I use the PVC because after I wipe it down, it's clean and it won't make my life difficult.
      "I cut this piece four times and it's still too short."

      1. calvin | Dec 03, 2004 06:23am | #13

        If you were talking about the old window blinds?  Nope, old style.  Big, metal, best thing for keeping lam off the deck in my old guy opinion.  You want a couple hundred?Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.

        Quittin' Time

        1. drkru | Dec 03, 2004 06:31am | #14

          Do you think the blind slats work (considerably) better than dowels?

          1. calvin | Dec 03, 2004 06:58am | #16

            yes I do, but then again, it's how I learned.  You can take the blinds and put a million of them on top of each other in a bucket with the rollers, slitter etc and they take up 1" of thickness.  If you put that many dowels in a bucket, there'd be no more room.  The pts of contact are very small, the amount it raises the lam off the deck is minimal.  They don't roll around.  And, in the case of most salvaged goods, free.  But, the old wide blinds are a thing of the past.  I don't see them at the end of driveways anymore.Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.

            Quittin' Time

        2. joebevel | Dec 03, 2004 06:45am | #15

          Are you offering these to anyone in particular & if not what do you want for them?

          1. calvin | Dec 03, 2004 07:01am | #17

            I'm offering them to anyone in particular.   I don't know yet how to "ship" them.  If I could just wrap paper around them and they could go us mail, you pay the postage.  If they would be better in a poster type round mailing sleeve, you buy the sleeve and pay the postage.  If you go through toledo, you stop by, bring beer and pick up a couple hundred.  And if I could be so bold, you make a charitable contribution into the Salv. Army kettle and we'll all be happy.

            The beer does sound good tho.

            Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.

            Quittin' Time

            Edited 12/2/2004 11:31 pm ET by calvin

  7. willcamp | Dec 03, 2004 09:11am | #18

    If you're feeling real paranoid, masking tape adds a layer of protection. I like Vaseline too. The more glue you keep off and clean off the face the bearing rides on, the less to foul the bearing. Welding rods make good standoff strips. Tin snips, with a little practice, are quick for making end cuts on strips. I some times plane off most of the overhang with a good block plane (Record with a hard Hock blade, very sharp) , then file.That way there's no burning "tall.

Log in or create an account to post a comment.

Sign up Log in

Become a member and get full access to FineHomebuilding.com

Video Shorts

Categories

  • Business
  • Code Questions
  • Construction Techniques
  • Energy, Heating & Insulation
  • General Discussion
  • Help/Work Wanted
  • Photo Gallery
  • Reader Classified
  • Tools for Home Building

Discussion Forum

Recent Posts and Replies

  • |
  • |
  • |
  • |
  • |
  • |
View More Create Post

Up Next

Video Shorts

Featured Story

Vintage Sash Windows Get an Energy-Efficient Upgrade

Low-e storm panels improve the energy efficiency of these old sash windows without changing their classic look.

Featured Video

SawStop's Portable Tablesaw is Bigger and Better Than Before

The 10-in. Jobsite Saw PRO has a wider table, a new dust-control port, and a more versatile fence, along with the same reliable safety mechanism included in all SawStop tablesaws.

Related Stories

  • Old House Air-Sealing Basics
  • A Drip-Free, Through-Window Heat Pump
  • Insulation for Homes in the Wildland Urban Interface
  • An Impressive Air-to-Water Heat Pump

Highlights

Fine Homebuilding All Access
Fine Homebuilding Podcast
Tool Tech
Plus, get an extra 20% off with code GIFT20

"I have learned so much thanks to the searchable articles on the FHB website. I can confidently say that I expect to be a life-long subscriber." - M.K.

Get home building tips, offers, and expert advice in your inbox

Signing you up...

This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.
See all newsletters
See all newsletters

Fine Homebuilding Magazine

  • Issue 332 - July 2025
    • Custom Built-ins With Job-Site Tools
    • Fight House Fires Through Design
    • Making the Move to Multifamily
  • Issue 331 - June 2025
    • A More Resilient Roof
    • Tool Test: You Need a Drywall Sander
    • Ducted vs. Ductless Heat Pumps
  • Issue 330 - April/May 2025
    • Deck Details for Durability
    • FAQs on HPWHs
    • 10 Tips for a Long-Lasting Paint Job
  • Old House Journal – August 2025
    • Designing the Perfect Garden Gate
    • Old House Air-Sealing Basics
  • Issue 329 - Feb/Mar 2025
    • Smart Foundation for a Small Addition
    • A Kominka Comes West
    • Making Small Kitchens Work

Fine Home Building

Newsletter Sign-up

  • Fine Homebuilding

    Home building tips, offers, and expert advice in your inbox.

  • Green Building Advisor

    Building science and energy efficiency advice, plus special offers, in your inbox.

  • Old House Journal

    Repair, renovation, and restoration tips, plus special offers, in your inbox.

Signing you up...

This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.
See all newsletters

Follow

  • Fine Homebuilding

    Dig into cutting-edge approaches and decades of proven solutions with total access to our experts and tradespeople.

    Start Free Trial Now
    • Facebook
    • Instagram
    • X
    • LinkedIn
  • GBA Prime

    Get instant access to the latest developments in green building, research, and reports from the field.

    Start Free Trial Now
    • Facebook
    • YouTube
  • Old House Journal

    Learn how to restore, repair, update, and decorate your home.

    Subscribe Now
    • Facebook
    • Instagram
    • X
  • Fine Homebuilding

    Dig into cutting-edge approaches and decades of proven solutions with total access to our experts and tradespeople.

    Start Free Trial Now
    • Facebook
    • Instagram
    • X
    • LinkedIn
  • GBA Prime

    Get instant access to the latest developments in green building, research, and reports from the field.

    Start Free Trial Now
    • Facebook
    • YouTube
  • Old House Journal

    Learn how to restore, repair, update, and decorate your home.

    Subscribe Now
    • Facebook
    • Instagram
    • X

Membership & Magazine

  • Online Archive
  • Start Free Trial
  • Magazine Subscription
  • Magazine Renewal
  • Gift a Subscription
  • Customer Support
  • Privacy Preferences
  • About
  • Contact
  • Advertise
  • Careers
  • Terms of Use
  • Site Map
  • Do not sell or share my information
  • Privacy Policy
  • Accessibility
  • California Privacy Rights

© 2025 Active Interest Media. All rights reserved.

Fine Homebuilding receives a commission for items purchased through links on this site, including Amazon Associates and other affiliate advertising programs.

  • Home Group
  • Antique Trader
  • Arts & Crafts Homes
  • Bank Note Reporter
  • Cabin Life
  • Cuisine at Home
  • Fine Gardening
  • Fine Woodworking
  • Green Building Advisor
  • Garden Gate
  • Horticulture
  • Keep Craft Alive
  • Log Home Living
  • Military Trader/Vehicles
  • Numismatic News
  • Numismaster
  • Old Cars Weekly
  • Old House Journal
  • Period Homes
  • Popular Woodworking
  • Script
  • ShopNotes
  • Sports Collectors Digest
  • Threads
  • Timber Home Living
  • Traditional Building
  • Woodsmith
  • World Coin News
  • Writer's Digest
Active Interest Media logo
X
X
This is a dialog window which overlays the main content of the page. The modal window is a 'site map' of the most critical areas of the site. Pressing the Escape (ESC) button will close the modal and bring you back to where you were on the page.

Main Menu

  • How-To
  • Design
  • Tools & Materials
  • Video
  • Blogs
  • Forum
  • Project Guides
  • Reader Projects
  • Magazine
  • Members
  • FHB House

Podcasts

  • FHB Podcast
  • ProTalk

Webinars

  • Upcoming and On-Demand

Podcasts

  • FHB Podcast
  • ProTalk

Webinars

  • Upcoming and On-Demand

Popular Topics

  • Kitchens
  • Business
  • Bedrooms
  • Roofs
  • Architecture and Design
  • Green Building
  • Decks
  • Framing
  • Safety
  • Remodeling
  • Bathrooms
  • Windows
  • Tilework
  • Ceilings
  • HVAC

Magazine

  • Current Issue
  • Past Issues
  • Magazine Index
  • Subscribe
  • Online Archive
  • Author Guidelines

All Access

  • Member Home
  • Start Free Trial
  • Gift Membership

Online Learning

  • Courses
  • Project Guides
  • Reader Projects
  • Podcast

More

  • FHB Ambassadors
  • FHB House
  • Customer Support

Account

  • Log In
  • Join

Newsletter

Get home building tips, offers, and expert advice in your inbox

Signing you up...

This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.
See all newsletters
See all newsletters

Follow

  • X
  • YouTube
  • instagram
  • facebook
  • pinterest
  • Tiktok

Join All Access

Become a member and get instant access to thousands of videos, how-tos, tool reviews, and design features.

Start Your Free Trial

Subscribe

FHB Magazine

Start your subscription today and save up to 70%

Subscribe

Enjoy unlimited access to Fine Homebuilding. Join Now

Already a member? Log in

We hope you’ve enjoyed your free articles. To keep reading, become a member today.

Get complete site access to expert advice, how-to videos, Code Check, and more, plus the print magazine.

Start your FREE trial

Already a member? Log in

Privacy Policy Update

We use cookies, pixels, script and other tracking technologies to analyze and improve our service, to improve and personalize content, and for advertising to you. We also share information about your use of our site with third-party social media, advertising and analytics partners. You can view our Privacy Policy here and our Terms of Use here.

Cookies

Analytics

These cookies help us track site metrics to improve our sites and provide a better user experience.

Advertising/Social Media

These cookies are used to serve advertisements aligned with your interests.

Essential

These cookies are required to provide basic functions like page navigation and access to secure areas of the website.

Delete My Data

Delete all cookies and associated data