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Laptops rugged enough for contractors?

JFink | Posted in General Discussion on September 22, 2006 08:30am

I’ve heard good things about this laptop from a contractor friend: http://www.hummerlaptops.com/

Has anybody else used/seen these? any feedback?

What other brands are guys using for the “mobile office” type work?

Justin Fink – FHB Editorial

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  1. User avater
    caveman | Sep 22, 2006 08:35pm | #1

    If the General is backing the marketing, I'd pass.

    IMO...Just another glorified gimmick that they hope will boost their lagging sales of poorly built crapola

     

  2. User avater
    PaulBinCT | Sep 22, 2006 08:59pm | #2

    Panasonic has some that are certified for rough duty IIRC...

    (http://www.panasonic.com/consumer_electronics/computer/elite_promotion/index.asp?sa_campaign=search_engines/PCSC/google/elite/kw=_laptops_offer)

    (the "Hummer" warrantee excludes: "

  3. damage caused by impact with other objects, drops or falls, including external case cracks, dented or punctured case, broken latches, torn covers, broken doors, broken display glass, hard drive and hard drive sector damage or read/write head damage, or physical breakaway of internal components;
  4. damage caused by the intrusion of foreign material such as dust, dirt or any liquid into the inside of the Equipment;")

    Not terribly impressive for a heavy duty item ;)

     

     


    Edited 9/22/2006 2:01 pm ET by PaulBinCT



  5. Edited 9/22/2006 2:02 pm ET by PaulBinCT

  1. john7g | Sep 22, 2006 11:17pm | #3

    My first laptop was a Panasonic Toughbook CF-25.  Still running today but limited on expansion but the newer ones are much better than the ancient CF-25.  When looking at the one the salesman was using, he folded it up took it outside and drove his truck over it, opened it back up and went back to using it.  I was sold.  They're not cheap though.  They do have different levels of ruggedness on their cases that may help to match your use/budget.

    http://www.toughbooksales.com/?gclid=CMCw5ryHwocCFRceUAodFWuuGg

    1. rez | Sep 22, 2006 11:28pm | #4

      Guess so, deals on overstocks running around $3,400.

       

      be yumpin' yiminee  The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.

  • TomMGTC | Sep 23, 2006 12:10am | #5

    We use panasonic toughbooks at work (aircraft mechanics) and I have not heard of one getting broken yet. This is on a 24/7 operation with multiple users so they are likely put through their paces.

    Tom

    Douglasville, GA

  • Marc | Sep 23, 2006 01:08am | #6

    Justin,

    It's an Itronix laptop rebranded to Hummer for marketing.

    Itronix makes a decent rugged laptop similar in features and price to the Panasonic Toughbook series.

    Panasonic also makes a good rugged laptop.

    They both start just over $2000 with non-rugged laptops well under a $1000.

    I guess it depends how careful you can be....

    I make my living with computers and carry a laptop all of the time.

    I buy the next day repair warranty for however long I plan on keeping it knowing that the warranty will be necessary regardless of whether it's a "rugged" laptop or not.

    If you're going to carry the computer to the job site setting up on a lift of lumber to use it, by all means get the rugged laptop (and the next day repair warranty).

    Marc

  • CAGIV | Sep 23, 2006 01:19am | #7

    I looked at the prices, for what they're charging for them I'd buy a regular old lap-top and purchase the accidental damange protection plan for 3 years from either best buy or Circuit City

    Team Logo

    1. docotter | Sep 23, 2006 01:43am | #9

      I buy a fair amount of IT equipment each year, including notebooks. I've been standardized on Dell notebooks with 3 year complete care warantees. They do get broken from time-to-time, but Dell comes to the notebook, wherever it is, next business day, to fix it.

      A guy I know ran over his Dell with complete care. The screen cracked, but otherwise it was functional. Dell came the next day to fix it. One of my coworkers put hers on a barstool, knocked a book from the counter onto it and it dropped to the floor. Broke the latch and made some of the plastic come apart. Dell came the next day and made things right. The point being: these things break, what happens when (not if) it breaks? If you have to send the notebook off to a depot to get fixed -- a process that might take two or more weeks -- that might be a major problem.

      I think that the Panasonic Toughbooks are worth it if you're likely to break the traditional units often, or expose them to really abusive envrironments.

      1. stevent1 | Sep 23, 2006 02:51am | #10

        Justin,This may be unfair, But why do you post a thread and then pull it after a few responses? I have been on this forum for over 6 years (FH said to reregister at least four times). As an editor of FH some of these threads go into the thousands but you seem to pull yours.Thank you, Fine Homebuilding for the great Forum.Chucklive, work, build, ...better with wood

        Edited 9/23/2006 7:34 am ET by stevent1

        1. rez | Sep 23, 2006 02:58am | #11

          huh?

          we need defined facts here.

           

           

          be definiteThe bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.

          1. stevent1 | Sep 23, 2006 02:39pm | #18

            Rez,Justin asked about drywall finishing prices a few days ago and there was 5 or 6 replies. Then the thread disappeared. As far as rerigistering it was probably a different computer thing.Chucklive, work, build, ...better with wood

          2. rez | Sep 23, 2006 08:53pm | #21

            Was this it?

            78947.1The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.

          3. stevent1 | Sep 23, 2006 10:22pm | #22

            Thanx rezlive, work, build, ...better with wood

          4. rez | Sep 23, 2006 11:11pm | #23

            View ImageWill the wind ever rememberThe names it has blown in the past

      2. john7g | Sep 23, 2006 03:04am | #12

        I'm sure this kind of next day service from Dell comes with a charge to the customer.  My experience with Dell is India and not very good.  It got better once I gave up on getting any tech support from Dell and relied on myself. 

        1. docotter | Sep 23, 2006 07:10am | #16

          TANSTAAFL. You're not talking about a $700 notebook here and they do charge for the warrantee upgrade. The cost of the warrantee upgrade is pretty reasonable if you figure that you probably will need one service call on the unit over a 3+ year life.

          Also, you'll get better treatment if you buy it through their business division rather than the home user division, and the upgraded warratee will get you better tech support.

          Edited 9/23/2006 12:14 am ET by DocOtter

          1. john7g | Sep 23, 2006 04:13pm | #19

            I've gotten a bit fed up with poor IT support from hardware providers sending their standard warranty work off shore.  Why leave the unsuspecting buyer hanging in the wind?  They're better off saying they offer NO warranty support on new sales and then offering the upgrade to the service that most users expect.  And why make the improved warranty available to only business customers? 

            edit to add: I'll post a picture of my CF-25 with the truck parked on it.  Send me one with your Dell doing the same.

            Edited 9/23/2006 9:15 am ET by john7g

          2. john7g | Sep 23, 2006 04:35pm | #20

            Here's apic of my Toughbook with the truck on it and it running afterwards.  Don't need much of a warranty for this.

      3. wrudiger | Sep 23, 2006 03:29am | #13

        Interesting - we recently switched from IBM to Dell and the laptops we are getting (not sure which models) are just not anywhere as tough as the old Thinkpads.  Especially screen and hinge failures from what I'm hearing. Of course, now that IBM sold out to China....

  • pino | Sep 23, 2006 01:28am | #8

    Check out this site for a run down of ruggedized notebooks/laptops.

    http://ruggedpcreview.com/2_notebooks.html

    My biggest client designs and manufactures ruggedized, mobile computers that typically mount on fork lifts and heavy industrial vehicle. They are about to release a ruggedized tablet that mounts in your truck, pops off in a flash into your hands for field work, and docks on your desktop.

    I'm working on the ID right now and we should have something to market before year's end.



    Edited 9/22/2006 6:29 pm by pino

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    McDesign | Sep 23, 2006 04:27am | #14

    A "hummer laptop"?  That just sounds like a joke.  No wait - I mean a euphenism.  Can you even post that here?  Oh wait - you're the modernator

    Forrest



    Edited 9/22/2006 9:42 pm by McDesign

  • girlbuilder | Sep 23, 2006 04:36am | #15

    Frankly, I'd just go and buy a Toughbook or some similarily priced laptop, if and when I can afford to buy a brand new one, which isn't right now.

    Anyway, I think Hummers are rather offensive, so no thanks. I couldn't care less what they could do.

  • mike585 | Sep 23, 2006 12:39pm | #17

    Panasonic Toughbook is used by the military for its ruggedness. I've used them; they are good computers.

     

     

    "With every mistake we must surely be learning"
  • tom21769 | Sep 24, 2006 04:26pm | #24

    A year or 2 ago, Apple started shipping its laptops with a feature called a "Sudden Motiion Sensor". It locks the harddrive, to protect your data, whenever it detects sudden movements (for example if it is being dropped) or strong vibration.

    Another nice feature they've added is a magnetic connection between the power cord and the laptop. So if you're powering up, and someone trips into the wire, it falls away nicely instead of yanking the whole shebang onto the ground.

    Macs tend to be pricey and I'm not necessarily recommending them to contractors.
    Just suggesting examples of the kinds of features that might be available beyond ruggedized housings.

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