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Lead hazzards

junkhound | Posted in General Discussion on June 27, 2006 03:47am

Some lead ovservations, aas to not hijack another thread.

Theoretical:

As someone who melted a lot of lead and played with mercury since being about 8 YO,  it has affected nothing but speling.

As a coworker who also played with lead as a kid said, ” If we hadn’t played with it we’d both have Nobel prizes”

Massive quantities:

Dont want to offend anyone from Joplin MO, but wife spent 6 month there with me while I was on a project at a battery mfg in the 90s. Joplin & Webb City literally have large lead nuggets in the fields (discoverd by James Webb while plowing) and DW says that is the town with the lowest overall intellligenge she has ever visited.

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  1. DanH | Jun 27, 2006 05:28pm | #1

    If you put the chart of adjusted (for changes in the test) SAT test scores on top of the chart for the amount of leaded gas burned in the US, and shift the charts sideways about 15 years, you'll see an apparent correlation.

    Of course, there are too many other variables for this to prove anything.

    If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. --James Madison
    1. andy_engel | Jun 30, 2006 07:45pm | #14

      Nope. It's gotta be that they've dumbed down the SATs. Speaking as a youth leader, I'm certain that kids today are in no way smarter than we were. <G>Andy

      "Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig." Robert A. Heinlein

      "Get off your dead #### and on your dying feet." Mom

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        IMERC | Jun 30, 2006 07:46pm | #15

        ask any kid... tell be glad to inform you that they are...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

        WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->

        Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

        1. andy_engel | Jun 30, 2006 09:02pm | #16

          Yeah, but not grammatically...Andy

          "Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig." Robert A. Heinlein

          "Get off your dead #### and on your dying feet." Mom

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            IMERC | Jun 30, 2006 09:09pm | #17

            how about if I said it this way "ask any kid... and they will be glad to inform you that they are"... instead of  "ask any kid... tell be glad to inform you that they are"...

            more gooder????

             

            note to self... proof read....Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

            WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->

            Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

          2. andy_engel | Jun 30, 2006 09:46pm | #18

            No criticism of you, Imerc. It's the kids who have a hard time with the language. "Me 'n David were chillin' by the falls...."

            I correct my Scouts on a regular basis. If nothing else, it distracts them from their original mission.Andy

            "Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig." Robert A. Heinlein

            "Get off your dead #### and on your dying feet." Mom

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            IMERC | Jul 01, 2006 12:39am | #19

            No criticism of you, Imerc.

            what implied or other wise criticism would that be... 

            one hand... fat fingers... and a true 3 or 4 WPM rate...

            yhat's my story and I'm stickin' to it...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

            WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->

            Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

          4. rjw2 | Jul 01, 2006 01:47am | #20

            >>It's the kids who have a hard time with the language.

            Unlike us bards chillin here at/in/on Breaktime <G>

          5. andy_engel | Jul 01, 2006 03:56am | #21

            Prepositions defeat many of us. As Churchill said, "Ending a sentence with a prepostition is something up with which I will not put."

            One mistake I make when speaking it to use there's, as in there is, with a plural subject. "There's twenty of them," should of course be, "There are twenty of them." Hate it when I catch myself in that one. Probably better than saying, "There're...", but not by much. I  tend also to leave out the subject if it's at the beginning of the sentence, as you may have noticed. And, I've been known to blatantly split infinitives.Andy

            "Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig." Robert A. Heinlein

            "Get off your dead #### and on your dying feet." Mom

  2. Shacko | Jun 27, 2006 05:59pm | #2

    Its all genetic.

    1. DanH | Jun 27, 2006 06:02pm | #3

      You mean it has something to do with fact that the standard greeting on the street is "Hi cuz!"?
      If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. --James Madison

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      IMERC | Jun 30, 2006 04:36am | #8

      do you mean that there is only two maybe three surnames for the entire population???Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

      WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->

      Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

      1. Shacko | Jun 30, 2006 06:42pm | #12

        Maybe I'm off the thread here, but my comment was to imply that an individual reaction to lead or asbestos etc. varies with the genetic structure of the exposed person. Some people can go through a life time with no probs. and the poor SOB can work with it 6mos. and have a life time of health problems; Genetics?

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          IMERC | Jun 30, 2006 07:13pm | #13

          let's go with the surname thing...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

          WOW!!! What a Ride!<!----><!---->

          Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

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    xxPaulCPxx | Jun 27, 2006 07:32pm | #4

    Here in Cali they are in the process of putting new laws about lead and remodeling.  I've got to get a test of all my paint now just so I know what I'm dealing with... home was built in 1960.  I've seen in the LA Times that some places have 90% of the homes in lead paint.

    And here I thought Asbestos and Mercury were my only hazzards.  I'm sure I'm going to find out that all my stucco was placed with uranium wire mesh!

    Rebuilding my home in Cypress, CA

    Also a CRX fanatic!

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      maddog3 | Jun 30, 2006 04:51am | #9

      and while your in the testing mode, also check the insulation and printed identifiers on electrical wire for lead.....!!!
      wouldn't want to go blind or need a blood transfusion from touching it.I have seen reels marked as lead-free in supply house catalogsI can also see the future warning, "do not to ingest or put wire in your mouth, wear appropriate PPE, must be licensed to use , dipose of properly "..pretty soon we'll all have to wear Hazmat sh!t just to flop in the LaZboy.

      .

      .

      .Wer ist jetzt der Idiot

      ?

      1. DanH | Jun 30, 2006 04:56am | #10

        The lead-free notation is there because you can't sell anything containing lead in Europe.
        If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. --James Madison

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          maddog3 | Jun 30, 2006 05:14am | #11

          whodda thunk it ?.

          .

          .

          .Wer ist jetzt der Idiot

          ?

  4. JohnSprung | Jun 29, 2006 09:54pm | #5

    >  DW says that is the town with the lowest overall intellligenge she has ever visited.

    OK, so she hasn't traveled much.  Clearly never been out here to Hollywood, or to Washington, DC.  ;-) 

     

     

    -- J.S.

     

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    Sphere | Jun 30, 2006 02:23am | #6

    " large lead nuggets"

    I saw recently that it was lead ORE not pure lead, but that was on TV and we know how that can be misleading, I mean mis LEEDing, Not mis-lead-ing..wait, I gotta go make some fishing sinkers from old pipe again.

    I have made pipe organ pipes,( lead, tin, zinc and antimony) and work with lead coated copper, and lead flashings.. and solder sometimes for a whole day, and it hasn't aff, aff, affe, affected me at allllllll.

    Antimony, that stuff is BAD NEWS. Really.

    Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

    There is no cure for stupid. R. White.

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    IMERC | Jun 30, 2006 04:34am | #7

    this is interesting...

    G80104 is fixing to build himself a place over in Leadville...

    hmmmmmmmmm..... 

    Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming

    WOW!!! What a Ride!

    Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

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