looking for a reverse roman ogee router
Hi,
I am looking for REVERSE roman ogee router bit i saw one in a trim book of tauton and I cant seem to find one anywhere and people think I am crazy when i ask for one. I know somebody here will know where I can fine one
Thanks for the help
Jim III
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Could that be a cove bit you are looking for? Or maybe even a regular ogee bit?
Porter Cable has one. And Jesada has an "inverted" ogee bit, which I think is the same thing.
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What is a Roman Ogee as opposed to an Ogee?
I'm just a curiopticus
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At a roman ogee you show up wearing a toga. At a plain ogee you can wear a t shirt and jeans or whatever makes you feel sexy. ;-)
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I think the Roman Ogee is used in Italian archtechture while the reg Ogee is used in standard cconstruction
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According to my extensive research (five minutes on Google just now) they are both S curves. In the context or router bits it appears the in the plain ogee, the ends of the curve are vertical and the middle is more or less horizontal. In the Roman ogee, the ends are horizontal and the middle is more or less vertical.
To Jim-mi: Google for "roman ogee" shows lots and lots of router bits. Google for "reverse roman ogee" shows a Porter-Cable bit that's the same shape as all the "roman ogee" bits. I suspect what's happening is Roman ogee is another name for reverse ogee, so reverse Roman ogee really means reverse (also known as Roman) ogee.
Edited 4/2/2004 5:23 pm ET by Uncle Dunc
OK, Now you got me going, so I spent all of six or seven minutes, LOL
I didn't find anything to definitively say so, but from what I found to compare, a Roman ogee seems to have the extreme tangents of the opposing arcs to be close to 90° to one another, while the normal ogees seem to be more relaxed or stretched out so the opposing tangents would be around 120° to one another.
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WRT router bits, I think you're right. I did see a few plain ogees with the 90 degree arcs, and one Roman with 120 degree arcs, so I don't think that's part of the definition of the names. (And who would ever claim to be the authoritative definer of the names, anyway?) But as far as what router bits are available, it does appear to sort out that way.
I guess that another way of saying that is that each arc in a roman ogee would represent about a 90° section of a full circle while a regular ogee seems to use 120° sections
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Too quick a read had me seeing this as: Looking for a reverse Roman orgy. Got me thinking. I have some ideas what goes on at a Roman orgy, I will take the fifth as to how I gained this knowledge, but what would a reverse version entail. Hmmm.
Boggles the mind while making me both vaguely excited and worried. Have you opened up a vast new horizons of deviancy? A new industry?
As for the router bit? I haven't the foggiest.
Edited to answer the core question.
Edited 4/2/2004 10:21 pm ET by 4Lorn1
You can't just reverse the head on the router bit?
For the record, ogee and Roman ogee are the exact same thing--referring to a profile that would more properly be called a cyma recta. The cymas are the profiles consisting of a double curvature, or "s"-shaped profile. The exact shape and relative size of the concave and convex elements can vary.
Cyma reversa is basically what you'd have if you installed a crown molding upside down--convex part at the top.
Ok what have I stirred up? This all started cause i saw a profile I liked in a Tauton press trim book and they called it a reverse roman ogee the difference that i could tell was the edge or fillet was on the oppsite side of the s curve.
Thanks for all the help
Jim III
ps i ended up with and freud ogee with fillet and the counter tops look great
I am looking for the same thing
I am also looking for a reverse bit, probably a reverse roman ogee. By "reverse" I mean the inverse. So it would leave a convex edge that should fit perfectly into a regular roman ogee edge. Anyone know where to find this? Would appreciate it.
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