I will be installing hardie board siding with miratec corner and frieze boards, with vinyl soffits. What would be the preferred method to mate the hardie to the underside of the soffit?
1. Install a vinyl channel for the soffit material, then lay the siding up to the vinyl soffit and cover with a frieze board?
2. Nail the vinyl soffit directly to a nailer, then lay the siding up to the vinyl soffit and cover with a frieze board?
3. Install a vinyl channel for the soffit material, then nail in the frieze board and lay the siding up into a groove in the frieze board?
4. Nail the vinyl soffit directly to a nailer, then nail in the frieze board and lay the siding up into a groove in the frieze board?
5. A better way is to:
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5. A better way is to use perforated aluminum soffit. It stays straight and does not expand and contract like vinyl. I like to put the soffit on and then the siding. That way if you ever want to change siding or renovate, you don't have to pull the soffit to pull the sidng.
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CLiffy
Any other comments?
How about ventilated hardi for the soffit?
From what I have researched on this site, hardie soffit does not seem to be very popular. So I decided to go with the vented vinyl.
Why would you need to replace FC siding before you needed to replace vinyl soffit?
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Like I said, use aluminum soffit. I have had to change siding and not soffit numerous times. Fibre Cement siding is pretty much non-existent in this area.
Have a good day
Cliffy
I could understand what you're saying with vinyl or aluminum, but steel or FC should outlast the soffit, whether vinyl or Al, and wouldn't commonly require individual pieces to be replaced, especially near the roofline.
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Make some mock-ups and decide which one you like best.
I take it from the replies I recieved, any of the options are correct.
I just need to make up my mind.
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What Cliffy said.
I think I would go with three. Not that I have much experience at this.
If you use a vinyl channel, be sure to use F channel. J channel is not appropriate for this application.
I agree with the above poster that the aluminum soffit is superior to the vinyl. I think it looks a LOT nicer.
I don't like applying the frieze on top of the siding since then it will be tilted instead of flat to the wall.
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Are the soffits horizontal or parallel to the roof? If the former, why not install siding to above the soffit line, then attach the F channel to the siding?
Dan, I guess I like the look of the frieze board, but was not sure if I even needed the J channel.
is the soffit already there?
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rpait,
I am in the process of replacing all the origianl plywood soffits and residing the house, so the soffit nailer is aready in place. Just wasn't sure if I really needed a J channel, since I aready had some place to nail the vinyl to.
"the soffit nailer is aready in place. Just wasn't sure if I really needed a J channel, since I aready had some place to nail the vinyl to."If the nailer is already in place, then I don't know why you wouldn't use it.The question then is, do you nail the soffit to the nailer or do you put up the frieze to form a channel and just slip it in and nail to the fascia.If you are using vinyl soffit, then I'm guessing it might be better if only nailed on one end.Don't make the channel any larger than necessary. You want a snug, not tight, fit.
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I was leaning in that direction but wanted to hear other opinions. Since my soffits are a minimum 24", I will still need to support them half way.
So, if I nail them half way and at the fascia I don't need any nails at the wall.
Future removal will be much easier not having to deal with nails above the frieze board.
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"Since my soffits are a minimum 24", I will still need to support them half way."At the risk of seeming to harp....the minimum 24" is another reason why the metal will just work and look so much better than the vinyl.
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thats a fantastic suggestion, FH had an article about siding where the author used wide vinyl door trim with integrated J as the frieze so the siding slipped up in it and looked really nice.-worth exactly 2 cents!
When I install vinyl or alluminum soffit I use J under the nailer because I think it looks better. It also hides that edge, your soffit panels might be slightly uneven and the j evens it out.-worth exactly 2 cents!
I have installed alot of vinyl soffit and siding as well as aluminum soffit and siding.If your soffit is fairly wide, say over 24", aluminum may be a better choice. Aluminum is stiffer and expands less.The longer the piece the more expansion is an issue.
Having said all that, vinyl is fine in most cases.If soffit is over 16" wide I would use some mid span blocking.
I would install a 2x2 nailer and attach soffit to it and the subfascia (or fascia ). A medium crown pneumatic stapler with 1/2" or longer staples works real well for this. Stradle the nailing slot with the staple at an angle so piece can still move a little.
Then but your friese board to the soffit. But siding to frieze board.
You could slide it into a rabbited groove on level areas but I'm not sure
that would work too well in a gable.
Thanks for all your comments.
Since hindsight is always 2020, aluminum probably would have been the way to go with the depth of my soffits. But the vinyl route had already been started down, so I will make sure I support properly and allow for the extra expansion
As for the soffit to siding intersection, once I get all my materials in hand and get started I will see what looks the best to me and go from there.