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   Longbow | Feb 14, 2009 10:38am | #1

   Yup.  I just bought one for the same price  here in Washington state.

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   mmoogie | Feb 14, 2009 04:01pm | #2

   >>That's a great price on a great saw.<<

   I would not buy another one. I've had mine for maybe 5 years and it has not held up well. Field use is very hard on it.

   Steve

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   smllr | Feb 14, 2009 05:57pm | #3

   Steve,I am curious as to what problems you've had; i.e., what parts failed or are failing?I've had my 1013 for about 2 years and had no problems, but it stays in my shop. Another Steve

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   mmoogie | Feb 15, 2009 09:50pm | #4

   Steve,The safety release button is long gone and replaced with a golf tee held in place with a wrap of duct tape. The button that you push in to lock it down for transport broke off, and soon thereafter the remainder of it that was left inside the hole wore away the pocket that creates the stop, so now there is no way to lock it down. It just bounces up and down in the truck, sometime violently over larger bumps. The protruding mitre lock knob gets bent by other stuff in the truck constantly. The bevel mechanism binds badly unless I loosen the locking knob on it to the point where it has a lot of slop in it.The whole thing has a lot of flex in it, which is helps sometimes...I know I can just lean on it a little to take off another 1/32", but it is disconcerting.The fence is too low.The amount you can go beyond 45 degrees on the various settings is not generous enough.I had to cut away some of the already too low fence on the right side to handle certain cuts... bevel greater than 45 to the right with a mitre setting to the right, if I recall.Dust collection is nearly useless.Has to be kept rigorously clean or the table binds.I'm sure there is more, but I'm just not thinking of it...I'm admittedly very hard on my tools. Never been one for religiously maintaining them, but this one hasn't done as well as a lot my other tools. I thinkit would be OK in a shop setting, but my workmate spent five years using one heavily in a shop setting, and had to do daily maintenance on it just to keep it useable. He swears at and against them. I would really like a 12" slider next time, but not sure what brand I would go with. Bosch or Milwaukee maybe. They are all too big though.Steve

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   dieselpig | Feb 15, 2009 11:40pm | #5

   Steve,

   No offense... but it sounds like you beat your tools dude.  Check out Ereplacementparts.com   Some of that broken stuff coulda been fixed for a couple bucks.  Literally a couple bucks.  The safety button on the handle is about $1.35.  The lock down pin is about the same, etc.  I used to keep a couple of the safety buttons in my repair box.   I'm a framer and we used the heck out of an LS1013 for the past 6 years with a few minor easily fixed problems.  I think the biggest thing is... at the end of the day (every day) the saw would get blown down with a nozzle on an air hose and stored on it's own shelf in the trailer.  I'd shoot the moving parts with silicone maybe one every six months or so.  It was a solid performer for me.  But to each his own.

   All that being said... I don't think I'll buy another.  The capacity was a little lacking for framing and wide exterior trim stock.  But I never had a problem with accuracy or breakdowns.  In fact, come to think of it, it never saw the inside of my repair shop.

   It sounds like most of the damage to your saw probably occured during storage (bed of a truck?) and handling it.  Not from actually using it.  Tough to hold that against the saw IMO.View Image

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   mmoogie | Feb 17, 2009 03:59am | #6

   >>it sounds like you beat your tools dude. <<No offense taken. I admitted right up front that I am hard on my tools. I know this about myself, and I know that at my age I'm not gonna change, so tools that can handle the abuse I throw at them are important to me.I know those little things are easily fixed. When I lived in Minneapolis I would just run down to the repair shop for a new safety button or a switch, but I'm in east ja-bip now, and it takes a special order and weeks to get it, so now little things like that tend to get left to be coped with via baling twine and duct tape.>>at the end of the day (every day) the saw would get blown down with a nozzle on an air hose<<I know that would help, but most of the time I'm working without a compressor. I don't use my air guns very much. And my truck is what it is. I don't have a dedicated spot on a shelf to tuck it safely away. It gets crowded in with all the other stuff that barely fits in there. I've been toying with the idea of a trailer because it's gotten so I simply cannot get everything I need in my truck anymore.So anyway, I know I beat on my tools. I wish I didn't, but I've come to accept this about myself. My tools, my clothes, my gadgets, all fail prematurely as I bang my way through life.But the biggest reasons I don't like the saw have to do with it's capabilities. As I said, low fence, limited over-reach on the angles, etc. Don't get me wrong, it's been a very useful tool. I went from the LS 1011 to this, but I feel that I'll need a 12" slider with a tall fence and steeper angles next time around, and if I can find something that's a little tougher, great.Steve

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   Scott | Feb 17, 2009 11:44pm | #7

   Yup, I've had one since 2000. It was actually MORE expensive back then. I'd buy it again though, great saw.

   Scott.