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Here’s the situtation. We have a lotsa crown molding to install on lotsa doors and window casings, on the head casing, above the head jamb, right? And the crown returns to the finished wall in a 90 degree return. The two pieces are actually mitered to 45 each and there is a small tiny return piece. Got It? “
Anyone have a picture of what this looks like.
The word “return” confused me.
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Return. The trim turns from something to something else. In the case of the head crown, it turned to the wall and dies into the wall.
Remodeling Contractor just outside the Glass City.
Quittin' Time
Here's a pic of bookcase crown with a number of "returns". They're the little short pieces you see across the front.
Don't remember now who posted this pic a while back, but it was handy and so I grabbed it.
return - what you do with the bottle of scotch a customer gave you for Christmas (you prefer everclear).
or...what you'd like to do with your 6 year old son when you come home from work and he proudly announces he filled the gas tank of your restored BSA (with dog food).
Or my tools that I didn't let you borrow.
what you'd like to do with your 6 year old son when you come home from work and he proudly announces he filled the gas tank of your restored BSA (with dog food).
That sounds to strange to be fiction!!!!!
Hope it was dry dog food not canned!!!Mr T
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goldh
I'm not sure, but my memory puts that bookcase as GBWoods' work.
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good memory, Piffin- thanks!
greg
Not that good, but outstanding work stands out in my nogin.
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Well then. That puts you one up on me even if you're not right. At least your memory is telling you something . :-)
Edit: And now I see you were right. Well, you're two up on me then.
Been a tough week out there.
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Edited 8/1/2003 10:53:24 PM ET by GOLDHILLER
nice work goldhiller
how do cut and mitre those short pieces?
ive done them many times using a miter saw but never really happy with the way they look, but maybe i'm too fussy
i cut and fit a lot of prefinished crown on top of cabinets and always have big problems with the tiny pieces that really make the job look professionalcaulking is not a piece of trim
I found the only I could get the pieces right was to use a dead-stick with an index mark on the saw. I cut a piece of scrap with a 45 on the end; cut the working piece on the joint side; attach the dead-stick using double-sided tape; then cut the return from the working piece and the dead-stick stops it from crossing the room at 100mph. Once you've got just the right length for the return, put a pencil mark on a piece of tape on the saw and matching line on the dead-stick; every return is near perfect after that..
Phill Giles
The Unionville Woodwright
Unionville, Ontario
Wow..... thanks much............but that particular piece is not my work! :-) Go back a few messages in this thread and you'll see that it's the work of GB Wood. He thanks you for your admiration, I'm sure. <G> I just grabbed the pic because I'd saved it when it was posted and it was the first one I came across with returns in it.
As to your question, I use my 12" slider to cut most returns. It's a tight machine that's set up well and consequently the results are just fine. I'm a fussy sucker too when it comes to fit. Either it's right or it's not. This ain't horseshoes.
I'm pretty sure I approach it the same as you. Cut the miter first, then chop to length. I attach temporary plywood auxillary fences with double-stick tight up to the blade to support the pieces. Remove when necessary and just stick 'em back up again when needed. If you have trouble with the pieces sliding on you during a cut, you either need a different blade or maybe some sandpaper glued to those auxillary fences will solve the problem.
Years ago, before I had a slider or any chop saw at all, I made such cuts on the table saw. Used one of the many specialty jigs I made for the saw. I've really grown fond of where my fingers are and intend to keep them there.
Edit: Just in case, but you've probably already surmised......... that I'm cutting the vast majority of these in the stand up position and not lying flat on the table.
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Edited 8/2/2003 10:54:31 PM ET by GOLDHILLER
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Wain
Just another picture of a return, its exterior but that doesnt matter.
Doug
wain,
did you invent "wainscoting"?
Mr T
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wain,
The crown molding returns to the wall.
It's the little piece shaped like a triangle that goes back (returns) to the wall.
It's a nice way to end a piece of molding and a great way to get yourself out of a jam due to poor planning. Just return the molding an inch back from your mistake and act like you meant to do it...
Dan
One happy assistant editor
Edited 8/1/2003 10:06:55 PM ET by Dan Morrison
Nice, but what were they thinking to have such nice cabinet molding and then put that butt-ugly clamshell casing on the door and and windows.
Phill Giles
The Unionville Woodwright
Unionville, Ontario
i know what you mean, the cabinets are great, the rest of the moldings are the origanal old tract house cheapies, he even put the old cheapie baseboard back on top of that nice laminate flooring
i shrunk the rest of my photos of the job and here they are.caulking is not a piece of trim
Nice looking cabinets, Steve. That green plam with light colored wood is very pleasing, never get tired of it, myself. Those knotty pine? The missus is after me to use that in our next house.
I really like that open shelving next to the refrigerator enclosure. Don't think I've seen that detail before.
You've captured the essence of 'simple but elegant', did you do the design too ?
Phill Giles
The Unionville Woodwright
Unionville, Ontario
thanks for the comments guys, i just posted the origanal to show what a return piece was!!
the cabinets are woodcrest sold by home hardware in canada
the wood/finish is rustic alder with a natural stain
the cabinet on the right of the sink(doubledoor) was made by me from prefinished materials from woodcrest because its not available from them
the design was done by a good friend of mine Ray Kaldeway a kitchen sales rep at home hardware in sarnia ontcaulking is not a piece of trim
hey phill
i see you're from ontario canada too
where are you? no idea where unionville is!!!!
im in sarnia, about 1 hour west of london on the border with michigancaulking is not a piece of trim
Unionville is a historic village within Markham, within York Region, part of the GTA north of Toronto. It's just north of #7, about half-way between the 404 and #48..
Phill Giles
The Unionville Woodwright
Unionville, Ontario
Great cabinets, but the owners do need to do something about that old plain trim. After those cabinets and floor it just does not look right.