I’ve been dink ‘n around with this roof for way to long. I have the instuctions and there is nothing on the corners. Of course the corners are the hardest part.
I’ve included a picture of the three pieces that have to come together and become one seemless water sheding system. How that happens is beyond me.
Is there an instuction on this area? I’m pulling off of it for now. I’m ready to throw something.
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You need to run the gable trim longer than that, do some clever cutting with your snips, do some clever bending with your seamers, and make closed ends. Then it'll look finished. The details in the pic are a little different but the idea is the same.
So I've got to cut and bend to close it up. I had no idea I had to do that. That makes sense now that you mention it. I can't run my gable trim long though. At least I think so. I'm putting a gutter under the eve trim so it has to run past the gable trim. I'll take another look at it when the wind dies down. I really dislike working with this stuff especially when I 've never done it seen it done.
since your messing with galv.,if you can't slide your gable trim down,why don't you just get a small pc and form it to fit the corner,if you would really like to get fancy you could run a litle solder joint on it so it looks finished. larryif a man speaks in the forest,and there's not a woman to hear him,is he still wrong?
I'm going to call the supplier. they are a metal fabricating shop as well. This roof is low so the corner is about 6 1/2' off the ground right in your face so i want it to look right. I can cut and bend up sheet metal pretty well. I used to frame steel studs for a living. I've never soldered sheet metal though. Maybe I'll give it a try.
There must be a typical intalation of these three pieces with a gutter. I just have to find a picture. Sometimes i like making things up as I go but on something like this I'd rather just do the typical instalation. Otherwise it looks stupid imo.
Didn't you get an installation manual with your metal. Should be a detail in there for this. It's pretty darn simple, but I fold this stuff every day. It's easier to make it look good if you fold the end of a full length piece rather than trying to shoehorn a small piece.http://grantlogan.net/
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Would of liked see upper part of that flue pan . I hate dealing with anything sticking up thru ag tin . I wish they made a pc that was profiled like the tin and then was flat which u could fold up against back side of a chimney .Done crikets but some times it seems impossible to think like a raindrop and get everything valleyed and overlapping.
no manual. that's the problem I've been having with the two places I've gone for this. No support whatsoever. It's no wonder people are going to HD.
I did get a manual from another place but NO details of the corner which is exactly where i need it.
The building business can be like this some times. It's a trade secret or something. If they told you they'd have to kill you.
I don't think the guy who sold me the metal knows how to do it. that's a big part of the problem. I like him and he is a fabricator but not this.
I wanted the rake/ gable piece to stop so the eve piece and the gutter could go by but now that i look at it I'm just going to have the gable go by. I'll try that tomorrow. So what if the gutter stops a half inch shy of the end. I think that will solve it.
Possible to cut it so the side of the rake piece extends out as far as the gutter but the top of the rake bends down into the gutter? Just asking, I have never done that . I usually cut and bend the rake back onto itself.
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
Try this. Cut the solid lines, bend the dotted lines, pop rivet the two flaps together. The bend at the top should be equal to the distance between the top of the roof to the bottom of the drip edge or slightly less to allow the gutter up behind the drip edge.
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Both great sugestions. I don't know if I said this yet but I talked to the supply guy and he said to bring in a picture of it so he could look at it too. He's ready to figure it out. But he had no detail on this corner. He said he had flat stock to flash with also.
I'll get it. It's just i wasn't prepared to make a corner. And I'm picky about how it's done.
Edited 1/26/2008 9:29 pm ET by popawheelie
Nice sketch. Picture is worth a thousand or so words.
They can't get your Goat if you don't tell them where it is hidden.
That's from your own studio/shop, correct?
David, why don't you show us some more pics, particularly of your board and batten details.
http://www.ddmetal.com/Plus%20rib%20install%20guide.5.25.04.pdf
aybe this will help, never actually installed a metal roof, doing some research and came across this.
Thanks for the detail sheet but did you notice that here isn't a comlete corner? i have the same thing in an instalation booklet. It shows the eve, the rake with a panel under it, but nothing about how they come together at a corner. Oh well. I'll make it work now that I know the rake goes past the eve and gutter.
Thanks everybody.
The link the last poster gave has a detail of the proper way to flash the rake trim at the eave on this type of metal roof.
Your pic shows a wad of Grace or some other material holding up the trim...no-no. Need to trim that #### back. And the rake trim will need to extend past the eave trim (drip). Sorry, but you'll need to detail the gutter AROUND the metal trim, not visa versa. Again, the rake trim MUST extend over and past the eave trim. The lip on the eave dead-ends into the inside of the rake trim, nice and tight. If you need to, put a screw into the outside corner of the rake trim to pull it into the eave/fascia.
I'd take a picture of my roof to show you, but it's dark. Sorry.
I understand what you are saying. I wanted the gutter to extend beyond the rake a bit to catch all the rain water cominf off the roof but looking back it isn't that big a deal. So the rake goes past. Got it. Thanks!