I recently purchased a Bosch 12″ Dual Sliding Compund Miter saw and I was wondering if anyone has any recommendations in regard to a miter saw stand?
Has anyone used the Sawhelper from American Design and Engineering?
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I have the same saw, put it on the MSUV from Home Depot last yr..or was it 2? Anyway...it really is schweet for the cost. I pd the full 199.99...right before they lowered them to 99.00...dammit.
Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
"I don't think it's funny no more" Nick Lowe.
<I have the same saw, put it on the MSUV from Home Depot last yr>What is that? Couldn't find it on HD site.
Miter Saw Utility Vehicle..I guess they still have them available, mebbe the big sale was due to closeout..I don't know why tho' ALOT of guys here got them when they halved the price. Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
"I don't think it's funny no more" Nick Lowe.
Got this:StableMate PLUS100 Universal Miter Saw StandAt Amazon. Folds up nice. Lighter than the Dewalt. Same principle.
They still carry them but they're hard to come by. I think they get sucked up so fast by consumers.
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I've had the stablemate, then the Ridgid, and now the Dewalt. The Dewalt is the best for my needs.The Ridgid was just too damn heavy - just the stand alone weighs something like 80lbs.I also paid $99 for it and sold it for about the same, maybe more.Here's a dealtip though, my (Detroit are) Homedepot is clearing out the Stablemate for about $45 (reg. $99) - for the money, it can;t be beat.JT
Here's a link -
http://www.homedepot.com/prel80/HDUS/EN_US/diy_main/pg_diy.jsp?CNTTYPE=PROD_META&CNTKEY=misc%2fsearchResults.jsp&BV_SessionID=@@@@0629482267.1130806184@@@@&BV_EngineID=cceladdgdkifiekcgelceffdfgidgnk.0&MID=9876
got it by entering "miter saw utility vehicle" in the HD search pane.
I bought one for my Bosch 12" miter saw that I've been using to build my garage. It's supposed to fold up like a hand truck with the saw on it in order to move it around.
I haven't had to fold it up completely, as I've just been moving it around the floor now & then. Along with a couple roller stands, it's been working fine for my needs.
I got it when they were on sale for $99.
Maybe this link will take you straight to the Ridgid stand
http://www.homedepot.com/prel80/HDUS/EN_US/diy_main/pg_diy.jsp?CNTTYPE=PROD_META&ProductOID=615023&CNTKEY=Products_2/Power+Tools/Saws/Miter+Saws+&+Accessories/Miter+Saw+Accessories&pagetitle=RIDGID+AC9940+Miter+Saw+Utility+Vehicle
Dan"Life is what happens when you are making other plans." - John Lennon
Not commonly known but if you purchase an item and the following week it goes on sale, just take the receipt to the store and asked them to give you the sale price. Usually they'll do it. If they don't, they run the risk of the customer bringing back the item for a full credit and then purchasing another at the sale price. It's easier for them.
Yeah, I shoulda, but it was kinda hectic at the time. I have done so since tho' on other items. Thanks. Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
"I don't think it's funny no more" Nick Lowe.
I have been using the American Design stand for about 5 years now.
Love it.
Costs a fair bit more than a lot of stands, but, I think it is worth it.
Like the full support of stock while cutting as well as for while coping.
The flip stop, once set up make it so you don't even need to use a tape at the saw most of the time. Get great cuts, even if you have a rookie cutting for you.
Really like the American Design stand.
We use both the ADE and Dewalt. The ADE is used mainly when we will be on the same site for a while. It is the cadilac of stands.
The Dewalt is great for jumping from job to job. Either will serve you well.
I've used the SawHelper stand for about 15 years now.
I have a Dewalt 12" SCM on it now, and had to bolt the plywood base to the saw stand to keep the saw from flipping over backwards. I guess I could have made the base bigger and just used the back feet provided with the saw, but I wanted to keep the footprint as small as possible.
I haven't used any of the other SCMs out there, so don't know what/where thier center of gravity might be. If it shifts to the rear when the saw is all the way back, it needs to be taken into account when installing it on the SawHelper stand.
I just drilled my base plywood and the stand top rail for a 1/4" bolts and use a wing nuts on the bottom. Makes taking it down for transporting easy.
Dave
We use this stand http://www.sawhelper.com/ for framing and soon finish. It is bad!! (as in really cool) :-)
Im in love . How much is it ?
Tim
A lot. I forget the exact amount. We got it with the longest outfeed supports and I think it was $400-500, but built really really stout.
Hmm
"think it was $400-500, but built really really stout."
I could see stout dripping all over it like a millionare is for money. I should have guessed it would be expensive on my beer belly budget. <G>
Tim
I've got the Hitachi stand and love it...
Kinda like asking how much a car is. The price is negotiable.
I was at a trade show (Tauntons come to think of it) and saw it there. I was not in the market for a stand and when I noticed the price I said forget it. The guy says he has a show special because its the last day of the show. No thanks. I am abougt to walk away and he throws this really good deal at me. I got the 8' extensions, two stops, and two sets of tapes with the stand for $404 including shipping.
So if you can, wait for a trade show (on the last day, at the end of the day)
Hey Tim,We just got this HTC Portamate 7000 in our store. Have you seen it or heard any good/bad news about it?http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BKY63G/102-2999764-0523314?v=glance&n=228013&n=507846&s=hi&v=glanceJust looking for hands-on review.Thanks,
darcy
Darcy it doesnt look too much different than the staplemate for a hundred.
Looks to be another "quick throw up " that folds and hauls like folding saw horses. They are great on quick jobs where you are there and gone but the table doesnt offer a table for measurements. Looks to be too high priced and I expect they will get less proud of it .
Tim
Edited 11/1/2005 7:26 pm by Mooney
We got a Sawhelper and used it for rough framing, exterior trim, and soon will set up inside for trimout.
A great tool!
Do you have the sidewings set up with the slide-in tapes, so you can cut without measuring? We do, and get consistent accuracy within 1/32". Awesome.
We have it setup the same as you do, and that thing is so cool. We set it up as a cut station to cut repetitives when we start framing. The sawyer cuts all scrap into useable block lengths. The small stuff is right there left in a pile and someone takes it home to burn as firewood
How would it do for composite decking, say 16' lengths?
Looking for something that can handle that length and weight.
I haven't seen mention of the Bosh unit.
It's very similar to the DeWalt unit that I own. Aluminum extrusions for the backbone, but it adds more adjustability to the extentions for height, can handle 18' lumber, has wheels to haul it away saw attached, has a crown stop, and the legs are height adjustable for working on uneven ground.
Pricing looks about the same or a bit more than the Dewalt..if I could trade and pony up the difference, I would!Jake Gulick
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CarriageHouse Design
Black Rock, CT
What do people think of the deWalt DW723? http://tinyurl.com/8osa3
I've been looking at either the Rosseau or Trojan..anyone have thoughts on either of these? I am a one man operation, so having a total support span of 30' I think they claim would be nice. I'm running a 12" Makita SCM. Thoughts?
Here's what I had to say about the Trojan 2000 a few posts back in this thread:http://forums.taunton.com/tp-breaktime/messages?msg=65244.20The Rousseau is good stand too; as I remember, however, one of the support legs detaches, so it is not completely self-contained (like the Trojan.********************************************************
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Well, I have one, and I like it's portability. They didn't use uch steel, so thats a major plus. A non rusting and light weight aluminum extrusion forms the backbone, and you can slide the saw back and forth along it. It packs up to a reasonable size.
That said, the genre has been improved on. The Trac Rac version, which is sold by Bosch is very similar but improves on the Dewalt in many ways. The Dewalt used to be $199, but the price has dropped, so it's a sweeter deal now, but I would definately spen the extra coin for the Bosh or Trac Rac.....it's always worth it in the long run, and we all plan on using these things for the long run, right?Jake Gulick
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CarriageHouse Design
Black Rock, CT
That Bosch stand looks to be the same as the Hitachi and Trac Rac. Have used the Hitachi a couple of times and definately like it better than the Dewalt ( the Dewalt is nice also though). For the extra $25 ( check amazon), I would go with the Bosch/Hitachi/Trac Rac.
-m2akitaLive by the sword, die by the sword....but choose your sword wisely.
Had the Dewalt, Stablemate, Delta, and AD&E. Used but not owned the Ridgid and Rousseau.
I keep 2 around. The Dewalt is for the punch saw, the AD&E is for when I put a mailbox out in the yard and start trimmin.
"If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principal difference between a dog and a man." - Mark Twain
Trojan MS 2000
http://www.trojantools.com/mitersawstand/index.htm
Easy to move around (even when set up), collapsible, sturdy, nicely engineered, long telescoping extensions, can be stored upright.
The downside -- heavy, difficult for one person to lead into truck, unless you're a gorilla.
I think the Sawhelper from ADE is a great system -- the stop system for repeat cuts is the best. It easily breaks into component parts, but I work out of a van, and with my set-up, it is more difficult to store the saw, rails, etc. Whereas the Trojan can stand upright and be lashed to the sidewall of the van, making it a more compact package for me.
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Another vote for the AD&E Sawhelper. I have 8' left and 5' right and it was about $350 without the table they sell. I had my neighbor weld up a table for me for another $100. It's a little bit of a schlep to move it and set it up, but once you've used one you'll think it's the best thing you ever saw. I've probably used 5 other stands that people had on jobs and never liked them enough to buy.
I have the sawhelper and it's the best. It's a bit of setup, but is quick and accurate when set up properly. Buy one!
I've used the Sawhelper (American Design...) with my old Dwalt 705 but I recently put the Depot MSUV under my new Delta TwinLaser. I love the portability of the MSUV - (the Sawhelper takes too many trips to move all the parts) but miss the full length support and built in tape measures and saw stops for quick measured cuts without pulling out the tape.
I keep telling myself that I'm going to figure out a way to put the sawhelper fence pins on the MSUV - that would truly be the best of both worlds. I figure I will just cut off the extendable supports on the MSUV (to save some weight) and find some way to attach the Sawhelper fences to the folded / transport configuration. Anyone try anything like this yet?
Based on the profile of the Delta's fence, I have a feeling it's going to involve a die grinder, metal cutting blades on several tools, and lots of head scratching and cussing - maybe that's why it still hasn't happened after almost a year.
If I ever get it together, I'll try to post some pix - I'm sure both stand swill be obsolete by then...
I currently have my Makita MS1013 on a Ridgid MSUV and still use my American Design tables.
I just left the pins mounted on my saw just the way they were.
I have the 8' on the left and a 5' right. I just set up the built in roller under the table on the right to support that wing. The left wing, I still use the American Design leg.
Works pretty well. If I just have a few pieces to cut, or don't need the tables for coping or anything, I just use the MSUV. If I have more to do I grab the tables out of their storage spot in the van and have the full featured rig in just a couple minutes more.
Sounds good but unfortunately, the fence on my Delta does not have straight (perpendicular to the table) ends to which the pins can be mounted (the DW 705 would have worked fine). I hope to attach an aluminum angle or something to the MSUV table to provide the perpendicular edge to which the pins could be mounted. Good idea about using the existing rollers for the new tables - both of mine are 5 footers so that might be a good option for me as well.
Thanks for the input