Multi-purpose adhesive on concrete floor
MrBlister
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I’m waiting for the home owner to decide which tile they want on their heated garage floor. The consensus of the group is to nix using thinset morter to set the 12X12 ceramic tiles on the concrete floor which has been treated with a spray on sealer, and has been in place for about 12 years I did a test using thinset, and some scrap tile. After a weekend of curing, sure enough, the tiles did not adhere really well. One tile supplier said I had to sand blast the floor to use thinset. In the opinion of this group, would multi purpose ceramic tile adhesive work for this job? About 80 square feet in a entry foyer are involved.
Erwin
Thornbury, ON
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Greetings MrBlister,
This post, in response to your question, will bump the thread through the 'recent discussion' listing again which will increase it's viewing.
Perhaps it will catch someone's attention that can help you with advice.
Cheers
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Hello Mr. Blister,
Do you have the ability to use a sub-floor? If you do you could use either mudset or plywood.
Good Luck,
JW
I believe that MP adhesive would give less results than thinset..
sand blast..
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For 80 sf I would rough up the concrete with a side grinder, then use good quality thinset.
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On my questionable substrate (vinyl) I used a catalyzed pink adhesive, no longer remember the name but the tile supplier called it Pepto Bismol. It stuck to everything, even ripped the plastic off my knee pads. Can't imagine it wouldn't stick to your sealer.
Worked very well with thinset.
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Look into Mapei products. They have an adhesive for just about every type of installation. I do not recommend ceramic for a garage floor however. Especially if cars are going to drive on it. I would consider slate or any kind of natural stone. Use epoxy grout when grouting. It goes on and cleans up easy (despite what everybody seems to say to try and talk me out of it. Epoxy will not let anything seep into it when cured. I use it exclusively for every tiling job I do. Mapei and Latacrete both have good, easy to use epoxy grouting (which can also be used to set the tile as well). Hope this helps!
George
I would use ceramic or porcelain on the garage floor before I would use natural stone.
But if you read, he is doing an entry foyer.
"When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it." T. Roosevelt
Not exactly.
When he said About 80 square feet in a entry foyer are involved the implication does not specifically designate the foyer entrance as the only concern in that the previous first statement in the OP was I'm waiting for the home owner to decide which tile they want on their heated garage floor which can lead one to assume a possibility that perhaps more is involved than just the garage floor in addition to the possibility that the heated garage floor is in process of being renovated into an entry foyer thus forming a valid opinion that an exact representation of the problem was not completed by MrBlister and now invalidates your comment questioning the ability of brother lapidow to accurately discern the scenario by use of his supposed 'in question' reading capabilities.
By the way, what is a lapidow?
seeyou invented the run-on sentence
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Just to clarify the issue. This is a garage with a heated floor which we are converting to living space. We are creating a entrance foyer to service the aforementioned new living space. We want to install ceramic tile in the said foyer.
Thanks to all for their input. I concur with those who opined that the right thing to do is to rough up the floor with a grinder. I'm wondering if a belt sander and a #60 paper might work. I can connect a vacuum to the belt sander.
Cheers,
Erwin
Thornbury, ON (where there is no snow)
Look to your Mapei dealer. There is a product to prepare that. Since that is living space, I would consider porclean.
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I think a lapidow is a breed of ffrench dog, but I could be wrong.
If you read post 9, it sounds like he is only doing the foyer. But after reading your post I you have convinced me that I need to go back to bed.
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