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   Guest_ | May 20, 2000 03:12am | #1

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   I think if you just look down the business end of each of those tools you would see the answer. Or, why can't you put a 12 gauge shell in the breech of a 22?

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   Guest_ | May 20, 2000 04:28am | #2

   *Charles,Ralph gives good advice, but don't try this at home or without adult supervision!BTW, wouldn't this have been a good topic for the tools folder?

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   Guest_ | May 20, 2000 05:08pm | #3

   *CORDLESS ROOFING GUN? NOW THAT'S AN IDEA!!!!!

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   Guest_ | May 20, 2000 06:08pm | #4

   *I'd rather see self-levitating bundles... those 30 year Architecturals... and a roof shovel that sends the shingles into the dumpster, not on the Rhododendrons.

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   Guest_ | May 20, 2000 10:47pm | #5

   *And why are there no cordless roofing nailers? I asked that same question to a sales rep. from Paslode at a trade show. The response was, and it makes sense, that most or at least some roofers clean their guns by dipping them in petroleum products. Therefore, if you had a cordless nailer that fires with fuel and an igniter combined with a well dipped gun..... Get the ideal??

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   Guest_ | May 21, 2000 03:40pm | #6

   *Regarding the cordless roofing gun,I gave this some thought about ten years ago. While technically possible to make a roofing gun cordless, a large part of the problem is that roofing guns are coil fed to provide adequate nails between reloads. Notice that there are is a piston to drive the nails and an air actuator that advances the nails. A cordless roofing gun would be an expensive, heavy, and complicated tool, probably impractical but possible. I don't think you could make one to fire fast enough, and it wouldn't take too many falls off the roof.I might by one if you could keep it under a grand, but I'm a tool nut. Incidentally I have some dated drawings circa 1990 that show an identical design to hitachis cap nailer based on a breakaway cap just like theirs. I didn't think a lot of guys would buy it then and I don't think it will be on the market long. I have yet to see one in my neck of the woods. A lot of great ideas are not successfully marketable.Anyone have any input on my idea for an aluminum magnet? You know, a magnet that picks up aluminum?Tom

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   Doug_Peterson | May 21, 2000 04:49pm | #7

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   Hey, a couple of times it's been the air hose that's kept me on the roof. It would be bad enough falling off a roof, but taking a $500 cordless with me would be than I could bear.

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   Guest_ | May 22, 2000 07:29pm | #8

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   You can actually repel aluminum with magnetism - it takes quite a bit of electromagnetism to do it, however. I have seen demonstrations where they levitate a thin aluminum plate or a hollow aluminum ball an inch or so over a strong electromagnet. I vaguely remember that it has to do with the induced eddy currents in the aluminum, or something like that.

   Alnico magnets contain aluminum, along with nickle, iron, and cobalt - however an Alnico magnet isn't going to do much for picking up pure aluminum. I would venture that to get something to pick up fairly pure aluminum all you need to do is create a new force of nature...

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   Guest_ | May 23, 2000 02:36pm | #9

   *The main reasons for no cordless is just as stated...the cord can act as a backup safety line as long as you set it up right, though not an OSHA recomendation....Paslode say's the speed of roofing overheats their present system. Also the cord keeps the nailer on the roof...Paslodes need to be not dropped and need to be kept clean...They are not made for firing a thousand nails day in and day out...I love my cordless guns though.near the stream,ajBack to the question, Finish guns use tiny air cylinders and are very light...framing guns need to be heavier and more powerful...roofing guns are in between and work with large headed nails....Siding guns are like roofing guns but use thin small headed nails....And most of all combo tools like the Shopsmith suck compared to owning each specialty tool separately...The constant changeover crap drives me looney....Many of us own several routers, circle saws, etc. so as to set up each one once verses resetting up for different cuts....When I use to build log homes, I had three drills, three chainsaws and three circle saws in use all set up to do an individual task....Saved hours of time...near the overstuffed tool crib in cave 2,aj

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   charles_campbell | May 23, 2000 02:45pm | #10

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   Greetings wise ones. Is anybody aware of any company that makes a single power nailer that drives roofing, finish and framing nails? If not, what is the obstacle that prevents such a product from existing? And why are there no cordless roofing nailers? Thanks.