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My New Rig

gordsco | Posted in Tools for Home Building on November 22, 2007 05:44am

I wrecked my old 718 DW slider, so i replaced it with a new one, it came with a stand and I bought the 10″ non slider on sale to go with it.

At first I set both of them on the stand for a lark, to get the other installers going but that was a month ago. Now I set them up like this all the time, I can’t believe how much I use the second saw.

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  1. andyfew322 | Nov 22, 2007 08:52am | #1

    well hello Mr. DeWalt.

    1. gordsco | Nov 22, 2007 09:55am | #2

      Now wait a minit,

      Blinded by all that yellow makes it difficult to see the non DW stuff. 

      Gord

                              

       

       

  2. oldbeachbum | Nov 22, 2007 11:13am | #3

    Cool!  One for each hand. 

                                                                  Now you can do twice as much.   

    ...The unspoken word is capital. We can invest it or we can squander it.  -Mark Twain...

    Be kind to your children....they will choose your nursing home.

    ...aim low boys, they're ridin' shetland ponies !!

  3. Hudson Valley Carpenter | Nov 22, 2007 01:28pm | #4

    Now I set them up like this all the time, I can't believe how much I use the second saw.

    I can't either.  Where's the saw dust?  Or is that a "no mulch zone"?

    1. gordsco | Nov 23, 2007 04:52am | #14

      Wheres the sawdust?

      As usual I wearing it. 

      Gord

                              

       

       

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    gillisonconstruction | Nov 22, 2007 04:48pm | #5

    Hey I was thinking about the dewalt stand myself.  I was wondering can you buy extra mounting brackets for a setup like that fairly easy.

    1. Dave45 | Nov 22, 2007 04:56pm | #6

      I bought two extra sets of brackets so I could mount these boxes.  They give me additional workpiece support, a very precise setup for repeat cuts, and some additional storage.

      My next trick is to figure out a way to contain the spray of sawdust I get with each cut.

      1. glennwarner | Nov 23, 2007 07:35am | #15

        "My next trick is to figure out a way to contain the spray of sawdust I get with each cut."Try this chopshop hood from fastcap

      2. Hooker | Nov 23, 2007 07:47am | #16

        Nice set up with the boxes.  For dust, I hve a 3 foot chunk of old shop-vac hose fastened to my DW slider's discharge in place of the dust bag.  With a garbage can or empty cabinet box conveniently located, I can aim the hose into it to collect large quantities of dust.  It doesn't stop the airborne stuff, but makes a difference.  A good thing is that I can swing the saw both ways and slide and the hose stays in the box.

         

        Also to gordsco- nice set up to you as well.  I have never thought of mounting two saws.  I too like to leave certain saws for repetitive cuts.Neither cold, nor darkness will deter good people from hastening to the dreadful place to quench the flame.  They do it not for the sake of reward or fame; but they have a reward in themselves, and they love one another.

        -Benjamin Franklin

      3. GOLDENBOY | Nov 23, 2007 09:38pm | #17

        Where did you get the extra brackets??  Love your setup.  Also have 2 saws a good one and an older one,  would like to have a base for each saw and maybe some storage like your setup. 

        Also cost of extra brackets.  Thanks.

        1. Dave45 | Nov 24, 2007 01:19am | #19

          I got the stand and extra brackets from the Western Tool Supply here in San Jose.  For one job, I mounted a small jobsite TS on the stand along with the SCMS.  That didn't really work very well since they were at different heights - I wound up moving the TS on and off of the stand quite a bit.

          The boxes I use now sorta grew on me.  I didn't like the accuracy of the stops that came with the stand (they're ok for rough work, but pretty useless for doing precise repeat cuts), so I decided to make the boxes to give me better workpiece support and a way to nail repeat cuts.  As I was was laying them out, adding drawers was an obvious thing to do. - lol

          IIRC, the brackets were ~$40 for a pair.

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        Huck | Nov 24, 2007 11:16am | #25

        sweet setup!View Image â€œGood work costs much more than poor imitation or factory product” – Charles GreeneCaliforniaRemodelingContractor.com

  5. MSA1 | Nov 22, 2007 05:08pm | #7

    What are you using the extra saw for? I mean why is it better to have the two side by side as opposed to having just the one?

    I've been considering buying a 10" just to have a light weight alterative to my 708 for small jobs.

    1. MikeHennessy | Nov 22, 2007 09:16pm | #8

      I could see having two saws set up. Expecially doing trim where you could have different angles set "permanently" on each saw. Less changing angles.

      Also, makes a good excuse to pick up another saw! ;-)

      Mike HennessyPittsburgh, PA

      1. byhammerandhand | Nov 22, 2007 09:32pm | #9

        Picture framing shops often have a set up like this to cut left and right miters without having to change the settings. Think about how much time you save not having to switch back and forth for every cut and convert that to a dollar amount."If there were no redundancy in the world, there would only be one hammer."

        1. andyfew322 | Nov 22, 2007 09:35pm | #10

          In dollar amount that might be upwards of 10 cents. LOL

        2. gordsco | Nov 23, 2007 04:48am | #13

          When i was trimming, I never flipped the saw to the right when cutting casing. I flipped the casing and cut it upside down.

          I found locking the saw at 45 was the way to go and if a miter needed an adjustment I would swing or tilt the casing to get the cut I needed.

            

          Gord

                                  

           

           

      2. MSA1 | Nov 24, 2007 05:55am | #20

        Good point.

        Another saw ehh?

        Lets see, Christmas is about a month away, probably be alot easier to focus on the wifes gift if i've already bought my own. 

    2. gordsco | Nov 23, 2007 04:38am | #12

      I do mostly stairs and rails, so the second saw comes in awfully handy when the big saw is set to an angle.

      I would have loved the same set up when I was trimming, I used to curse taking the saw off compound to make a straight cut on crown. 

      Gord

                              

       

       

      1. MSA1 | Nov 24, 2007 05:56am | #21

        Yeah, never really thought about it that way. I've been there before too. Tricky angle all figured out then you need to do a straight cut, angles gone.

        1. Jim_Allen | Nov 24, 2007 07:18am | #22

          There were many times when I used two saws on a rough and I'd probably be the kind of guy that would set up two tools on the finish too. I hate fiddling with stuff. I used to keep two different sawzalls with the blades in them: one was a metal blade and one was for wood and I Dinever took them out of the chucks to store them: too much time getting them ready to go the next time! Did you make that REIA meeting yet? FKA Blue (eyeddevil)

          1. Jer | Nov 24, 2007 02:52pm | #26

            When I used to make furniture and cabs I would often have 5-6 drills, and maybe 3 routers with different setups waiting to go on a shelf just under the bench top.
            I often bring two miter saws to an install.

          2. MSA1 | Nov 25, 2007 06:02am | #29

            No. We moved a couple weeks ago. I havent had a chance to do anything. I had to fix the house we moved into, fix the one we left, plus I have a duplex working in Ferndale that I need to have ready for rent by the 1st of the year.

            It also looks like we'll finally be starting construction on the Onaway Duplex earlier than I thought. I was expecting spring but with the milder winters the boys up north want to get moving on it.

            It'll be nice to have that place flowing cash instead of just generating a tax bill.

            We decided to pass on the apartments for now, couldnt get the numbers to do what I wanted them to.

            Hows Texas going? 

          3. Jim_Allen | Nov 25, 2007 10:28am | #30

            We've completed two small contracts: a rough frame and a shell package. We're getting lumber prices for the flip and I'm just starting some drawings for a new custom. Texas is great! We're all anxious to see if we can hit our budget numbers on that Avondale project that I sent you the package on. If we do, there will be an avalanche of investment money which we are already looking for projects for. We'll keep doing some single families but multi families are returning the same numbers, so it makes a lot more sense to concentrate our efforts there.I've been thinking about how and where you would find investment money in MI and quite frankly, I'm stumped unless you start buying wholesale at somewheres around 55% of fmv. At that rate, you could afford to offer a substantial return but the risks in Mi are so huge that I can understand why an investor would be skeptical if you were offering 20%. I was hoping you had gotten to a meeting because I wanted to know what their morale and attitudes were. FKA Blue (eyeddevil)

          4. MSA1 | Nov 25, 2007 09:39pm | #31

            I have been getting some good deals, well below FMV and those I seem to be able to handle on my own. I was looking for financing for the apartments and I actually found a company willing to go 97% for me. Like I said though I couldnt get the numbers that I wanted out of it so for know i'm stickin with single families & duplexes.

            I still plan to get to a meeting. I'll let you know how it goes.

          5. Tyr | Nov 26, 2007 05:36am | #32

            I have a 12" compound miter and a 12" compound slider. I picked up a wheeled steel framed saw stand and got to looking at my table saw. Being a welder/fabricator I got square steel tubing of two sizes so one would slide perfectly inside the other (you have to play around with different gauges for the proper fit). I cut my stand so my adjustable fabricated pieces fit in the middle. The stand can be used with multiple miter saws but it adjusts to let me drop in my table saw on one end and the miter is on the other (mounted to a 3/4" board that can be flipped 270 degrees so that it hangs from the stand out of the way). When the miter is upright, stock is fed across the original adjustable roller, across the bed of the table saw, into the miter saw. Difficult to describe accurately but maybe I can borrow a digital camera and post a pic. Haven't welded any wood yet but in case you wanted to take some night classes it would be hard to beat welding. Tyr

  6. Sasquatch | Nov 23, 2007 02:24am | #11

    I like it!

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    Dreamcatcher | Nov 23, 2007 09:50pm | #18

    That's a great setup. I never thought of just getting a second mount, just got different stands. At my work now they have 4 SCMS's and 3 different stands. Plus I have 2 SCMS's and 2 different stands (one is homemade). While trimming we usually set up no less than 2 saws at a time. Mostly square cuts on one and angles on another. Might need to "save" a complex angle for awhile so use as one saw fixed and the other adjustable. Sometimes just bring a third saw.

    Other contractors joke about the number of saws we bring to a job but they don't joke about how efficient we can knock out quality custom work.

    Will be sending the double saw idea up the ladder. If not anything else, it just looks cool. Would 3 saws fit? Hmm.

    Gk

    1. gordsco | Nov 24, 2007 07:24am | #23

      Ixnay on the three saws, there's a bit of play with two. Two SCMS would be ideal. I picked up the 10" for service work and threw it on the stand. Now that I'm working with it, the 10" is too limited.

       I'll start using my double bevel 716 along with the 718.

      Its a sweet set up.  

      Gord

                              

       

       

      1. Novy | Nov 24, 2007 10:57am | #24

        So Gord I am killing myself here trying to come up with something smartass to say regarding your shareholdings in caulking futures or how no sawdust gets on your lawn but to no avail...........

        Might as well just say hello but you are deaf so you probably won't hear.

        We have been setting up a 32' chopsaw station with 2 saws for awhile now and it really is great. Even just for squaring then to length. 

        On a hill by the harbour

        1. gordsco | Nov 24, 2007 04:36pm | #27

          Hey Holmie!

          I hear fine you just have to get on my best bad side and yell... alot ;~}

          A 32' chopsaw station?

          Is that 2 saws with 14' left right runouts?

          or 2 saws with 28' of table between them?

          If its the latter, no wonder yer so dang thirsty all the time!

           

            

          Gord

                                  

           

           

          1. Novy | Nov 24, 2007 10:15pm | #28

            Four 2x8 benches with 2 saws . The saws are @ 8' + 24' oc respectively. We make alot of 10/12/14 Ft. walls so the 16' in the middle works well for stops. Obviously not very portable but it is a shop setup....... 

            On a hill by the harbour

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