Gettin’ stir crazy not makin’ any sequential posts while I eat my dinner! Here’s an over-detailed project from today.
Had to make French doors to fit an odd-sized interior opening for a repeat client. Clear, cased 1905 opening is 40″ wide and 87″ tall.
Found a good used pair of wood doors ~24×80″ this morning; sliced them down to 19-7/8″. I was concerned about stiffness, and had bought some 1″ square steel tubing to inlay along the stiles, but the doors are surprisingly light and stiff, so I won’t. Doorknob hole gets filled; doors will just have top detents and cabinet pulls on either side.
Chopped and ripped the removed strips into (8) 1-5/8×19-7/8″ pieces – the pieces should have good Karma back on the same doors, and the same moisture content, at least.
Gorilla glue and 3″ Piffin screws; some Bondo fill to attach the strips along the top and bottom stiles.
Taller, skinnier doors
Shaving
Block sanded perpendicular to the grain – it really shows the “piecing” if you don’t get it flat
Final sanded
Automotive-type high-fill sanding primer – easy to sand and feather in
Final shellac-based primer
I’ll rout hinge mortises and hang them tomorrow – client will take them back off & paint them when they decide on the trim color there.
Forrest – drinkin’ two-buck-Chuck with my pasta
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Forrest,
Nice job.
Glazing compound is great on wood. I use it all the time pre lacquer.
It looks like 2 pieces were added to the bottom.
 I built a pair of 12/4 X 3/6 X 11' arched doors for a Greek Orthodox Church in Annapolis MD (unfortunately, no pics) and used aluminum 2" X 6 " I beams in the stiles.
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Chuck S
live, work, build, ...better with wood
Edited 11/9/2006 11:47 pm ET by stevent1
11' - wow!
I did add (2) pieces top and bottom of each door.
I was all set to photog how i inlaid in the steel, but I just didn't think it really needed it for such light doors. I will use (4) hinges, and let the slightly wider stile be the free one
Bet ya Cnote it don't make 4th of July before ya have severe checking. And filler fail.
Auto glaze like Nitro is not gonna play nice on a door ( trust me, I tried).
Take the bet? 100 bucks you have rail /stile warp and separation at the join. By 7/4 o7 at the latest, I 'd go 200 if ya got 5 weeks and you were a betting man.
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I'll take part of that.
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Chuck S
live, work, build, ...better with wood
He'll learn, it is a bomb waiting to pop.
You in for the 5 weeks @2oo or the 100 on the 4th
? either way, ya win?
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Hope your recoery goes well. Are you able to do anything?Chuck Slive, work, build, ...better with wood
Thanks, yup. I went to the job and fabbed up a few hunks of gutter, then hadda git me an MRI at noonish30. It sucked, but the news is not out yet what is going on back there in my neck.
I did not know that I'd be getting an IV of dye, or I woulda tranqwillized my self..I hate that IV shid, and I have tiny viens so they always dig a round looking for a good flow.
Anyhow, I have the bag and rope gizmo and a new C Collar to sport, good thang I am a homebody and have no need to get out to town for a few days, cuz I'd have to buy a turtle neck sweater with a cowling to hide this monstraosity. LOL
Thanks fer askin.
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Have faith dude! They're interior doors for a house with a darn stable environment; the doors have been standing in a nearby warehouse since 1978. I think they're pretty well stable.
Not my first door-mod rodeo - I have some similar in my house I did in 1993 - paint hasn't even cracked yet.
Forrest
And another thing . . .
It's not glaze - it's just sprayed high-solids primer. Bondo sits on fresh bare wood prepped with Minwax wood hardener
Save that money - I'll just take pix next year and you can just gloat or not.
You're just bitter sitting there with your neck in a sling
Forrest - hope you're healing
You are correct about bitter, but I imagined tth Nitro glaze or greendragon putty going bad..don't get me wrong I love that stuff, but it fails outdoors and I see now that yer installing indoors..we'll hold the 200 bet for now.
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Yeah, I guess those car guys use it on their "indoor" cars.
;-)
Forrest
No, not that, wood and steel move a whole lot mo' different.
I just got in from the MRI, waitin to see what they say. But when the nurse says " OH SHID" I don't take it lightly at all.
Grant just told me I probly had the tractction device on TOO long yesterday...I didn't think it was possible, but either way. i'll have more info when the big bucks guy reads the movie.
I also found out I am claustrophobic, never was before I took the tunnel ride with ink injected in me...I bet the kidneys are gonna be in the purple range, cuz they were pink and good when I went in. I passed 4 stones a few yrs ago, that was hell.
At least I got a few hours hanging gutter this am, and we took the dog ( mine) up on the lift..LOL He loved it.
Always a first in Duanedom...always a first.
Now I get to sit here on a sunny day and watch my pee be enriched w/ god knows what and urainium..hey, URAIN-eum. I see a connection.
I think I need a nap now, I don't deal well with stress.
Sorry if I pissed on your Wheaties about the doors, but the facts are ( in my exp) that the wood wil move at a different rate than the putty, and something has to give. Putty /steel OK, putty wood? 90% will fail eventually. Maybe it was my technique that was flawed. Or the Nitro-stan was bad outta the tube, but The green Dragon was worse for failure, even after a heavy body prime ( ON WOOD). Maybe the primer failed to respond well, it was Oil based, like emeron solid body grey with not too much thinning, but it cracked at the joins.
Again, probly my bad, but still, after being bad enough, you get good. Automotive glazing putty is not a good choice on wood any more, indoors or out, it is too hard when cured, and not memory intense enough, adda dollop of contact cement in the mix, and then ya have a winner. Yes. I said dollop. At yer discretion as to how to define a dollop.
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