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   ponytl | Aug 28, 2009 03:16pm | #1

   I think thats something you just have to draw out of mock up... weird how even with the right design... a few inches up or down make all the difference in how it looks to the eye...
   good luck
   p

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   ms | Aug 28, 2009 03:54pm | #2

   Some considerations:
   1. Is it going to be a shed roof or gable? A shed roof will let rain/snow drop into the entry path
   2. Where will the lighting go? On the wall beside the door? On the wall above the door? Or suspended from the new roof?
   3. Will there be a finished ceiling to the new roof? This can make the design feel "closed-in" which is the opposite of a gable with exposed rafters.
   4. What fits, both scale and features, with the current house theme/shape?
   On most that I've done I would say the width is 6" beyond the door jambs in both directions and a minimum of 3ft 6in from the house. I also look around at other houses for ideas on what will be architecturally pleasing and functional.
   Mark

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   shawncal | Aug 28, 2009 04:36pm | #3

   Thanks for the replies.  I should have included photos with the original posting, so here is what it looks like:

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   I would like to build a small shed style canopy with timbered brackets on either side.  Preferably open trusses, and covered with the same metal shingles that are on the barn roof.   As you can see there is not alot of vertical space, so the slope and depth are an issue .  After looking at other houses in the area (not that there are any barn houses to use as an example!), I see that most of them install the brackets very close to the side jambs of the door, then have a single light centered overhead.  Since I have already installed lights on either side, i can't do it this way (unless I want to rework the lighting, which is not out of the question). 

   In my mind, It seems like it will look too large for the space if I run the brackets outside of the lights, so I'm curious what others think/suggest.

   Thanks!Shawn

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   ms | Aug 28, 2009 05:28pm | #4

   You're not going to like this. I would gable the roof and match the pitch of the shed roof to the right of the door. The lights and roof height won't be a problem. That's just me. I like the door and the lighting and would put the roof supports to the outside of the lights.
   In counting the claps, if there is a 4" exposure there is probably only enough room for 4/12 pitch if you keep the shed roof depth to 3ft.
   Others, no doubt will chime in and offer more ideas!
   Good luck,
   Mark

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   shawncal | Aug 30, 2009 03:40pm | #5

   Mark,

   Thanks for the suggestions.  I actually liked the idea of a gable roof, matching the pitch of the shed roof above.  But had written it off because how would you flash something like this?  If I were to build a canopy like this, should I be cutting out the siding and tucking flashing behind it, as in new construction?

   I am also considering a 'half gable' canopy, for lack of a better term, that would parallel the slope of the shed roof above.  As you can see by the photos, the barn's roof ends pretty close to the left edge of the door, so the canopy is not really required on the left side.  How do you think this would look?

   I have several books on framing techniques, and Google at my disposal, but can't find a lick of information on "entry door canopies"...any suggestions on where to find some framing examples??  Am you using the wrong terminology?

   Thanks!Shawn

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   ms | Aug 30, 2009 04:07pm | #6

   I also thought of a 1/2 gable but dismissed it for lack of symmetry.
   I think you're terminology is fine. Technically it also could be called a portico. I did a quick Google and didn't find info specific to your application, but with a little more patience you never know. You are correct about the flashing needing to be tucked up and under the existing flashing.
   MS