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   ProDek | Jun 19, 2002 01:51am | #1

   Mr T - I used Steelhead hot dipped galvanized 3 1/4" for framing with Hitachi guns and Steelhead screw shank hot dipped galvanized for decking with Bostich coil nail guns.

   I've never laid 5/4 treated. I usually deck with 5/4 tight knot cedar.

   Now Jim Blodgett screws around on his deck but I don't remember how he fastened it :-) 

   Bob

   "Rather be a hammer than a nail"

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   MisterT | Jun 19, 2002 01:01pm | #2

   Bob,

   Are Steelhead nails a readily available brand name?

   Can they be ordered?

   Thanx again!

   TDo not try this at home!

   I am a trained professional!

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   ProDek | Jun 19, 2002 05:51pm | #3

   T- I buy my nails from eastside staple , their website is http://www.eastsidestaple.com you might contact them to see if there is a supplier near you. Hope this helps.Bob

   "Rather be a hammer than a nail"

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   MikeS | Jun 19, 2002 07:31pm | #4

   Bob

   What's your favorite clear and semi transparent preservative/stain for your cedar decks?

   Thanks,

   Mike S

   It's O.k. to think out of the box,           Just don't walk off of the plank!

   Edited 6/19/2002 12:33:15 PM ET by Mike S

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   ProDek | Jun 20, 2002 12:45am | #5

   That would be Superdeck transparent stain. The reason I like it best is that it applies,cleans and re- applies better than any others I have used over the years. My deck is 8 years old and it looks like I built it yesterday. I clean and stain it every year. Bob

   "Rather be a hammer than a nail"

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   MikeS | Jun 20, 2002 01:02am | #6

   Thanks Bob

   I've tried Cabots and the strong odor seemed to linger for quite a while, perhaps I applied it wrong. Considered Penofin. Looked at Superdeck and noticed if I recall correctly that it has tung and linseed oil, it looked promising.  

   Mike

   It's O.k. to think out of the box,           Just don't walk off of the plank!

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   ProDek | Jun 20, 2002 02:49am | #7

   Mike- Cabots and Behr rate about the same and you better have a respirator to put on penofin if you think Cabots stinks. The problems with some of these other stains is the re-application the following year. They have some kind of waxy substance for waterproofing that is very hard to re-apply over , where a true oil will soak in year after year.

   I hope I'm explaining this so you understand, I'm not a chemist, I just know what works.Bob

   "Rather be a hammer than a nail"

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   MikeS | Jun 20, 2002 05:57am | #8

   Bob, You're essplainnn it fine by me. Yep, Cabots was waxy. By the way it appears that HD is dropping Behrs "Natural Seal Plus" line of oil based stains around here. Seems like they're going the alykd/acrylic route, my guess is the EPA has something to do with it. 

   Thanks againMike

   It's O.k. to think out of the box,           Just don't walk off of the plank!

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   ProDek | Jun 21, 2002 02:22am | #9

   Here is the last deck we did sealed with Superdeck stain. This is "Valley"DB1902Bob

   "Rather be a hammer than a nail"

   
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   MikeS | Jun 21, 2002 05:44am | #11

   Bob

   Thanks for the photo.

   Nice touch with the heartwood and sapwood on the bench!.

   How long does SuperDeck have to dry before it's o.k. to sit on it without the stain staining clothes? 

   Mike S.

   It's O.k. to think out of the box,           Just don't walk off of the plank!

   Edited 6/20/2002 10:50:55 PM ET by Mike S

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   ProDek | Jun 21, 2002 09:29am | #12

   24 hours before you can remove the wet paint sign Mike. Bob

   "Rather be a hammer than a nail"

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   missoulaman | Jun 21, 2002 07:19pm | #13

   Bob,

   When you "clean" your deck do you mean scrub it and let it dry or do you use a type of cleaner prior to the refinish?

   Thanks,

   CS 

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   andybuildz | Jun 21, 2002 07:46pm | #14

   CS,

        Just finished cleaning my deck yesterday (15 x 50 cedar). I rented a 2000psi power washer for $35 and had the deck done in about an hour and a half. No chemicals needed and it couldnt be cleaner or easier to do. I then sealed it with an oil finish from a garden sprayer and it looks betterrrrrr then new.

   Be well

             Namaste'

                           AndyIt's not who's right, it's who's left ~ http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM

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   ProDek | Jun 22, 2002 03:50am | #15

   CS- this is what I use. It costs $8.97 at Lowes. One gallon makes 2

   A pressure washer is too abrasive on a cedar deck and it lifts the grain which makes it trap more dirt.

   I do scrub lightly with a deck brush on a pole after I've sprayed to loosen real dirty areas.

   looks like new when I'm doneBob

   "Rather be a hammer than a nail"

   
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   andybuildz | Jun 21, 2002 02:25am | #10

   I use an electrogalvannized "trim nails" (3") that is coated with a glue that heats up and melts as I shoot it through my gun. The gun automatically counter sinks the heads and looks fantastic not seeing a gazillion giant nails heads. I've been doing this for over 15 years and no call backs......just referals.

   Be well,

           Namaste'

                        Andy

   It's not who's right, it's who's left ~ http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM