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   Ted W. | May 01, 2009 04:26am | #1

   Put a ladder jack upside down at the end of a long ladder (i.e. one section of a 40'er), bolt it on so it doesn't slip off, wrap it with rags so it doesn't damage the roof, and use it as a hook over the ridge of the roof. That's what I do.

   Slide it up the roof with the jack pointing up toward the sky, then when it gets up past the ridge, flip it over. Do the opposit to bring it down. Just make sure the ladder you're standing on is tied to the gutter or something, so the ladder you're pushing up doesn't push you instead, cause that would really ruin your day.

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   Edited 4/30/2009 9:27 pm by Ted W.

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   Glen91482 | May 01, 2009 04:31am | #2

   what do you mean bolt it on?

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   Sphere | May 01, 2009 04:38am | #3

   Just buy a real ridge hook, ABC has them.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

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   Glen91482 | May 01, 2009 04:39am | #4

   That sounds great, but what do you mean bolt the ladder jack on, is that just the standard lock on it.  Also I don't think tieing it off to the gutter is an option they are not in the best condition and would not really support anything.   Does the ladder tend to kick back a little.  Is the ladderjack really long enough to support that weight?

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   Ted W. | May 01, 2009 05:00am | #5

   When I said tie it to the gutter, I was refering to the ladder you're standing on while lifting/pushing the other ladder up to the ridge. Think about it - if you're standing on a ladder from the ground leaning on the gutter (or whatever it's leaning on) and you start pushing another ladder (or any heavy object) up onto the roof, it will have a tendance to push back. That's why you have to tie off the ladder you're standing on. If not the gutter, something, anything. Just don't try pushing the other ladder up to the ridge without tieing off first.

   Bolting the jack to the ladder, yes that would be the standard lock. Some older jacks don't have that, and depend on gravity to keep them from slipping off the ladder. Obviously, that wouldn't work for this application, so I just said bolt it on.

   It's just as Sphere says, to get a ridge hook. I'm just saying you can flip a ladder jack upside down to suffice as a ridge hook. I'm thinking budget, Sphere is thinking to just buy one. Either way, you wan't a ladder to hook over the ridge.

   You still want to tie yourself off with a safety line, of course.

   ~ Ted W ~

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   Edited 4/30/2009 10:05 pm by Ted W.

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   Glen91482 | May 01, 2009 05:19am | #6

   I got you. thanks

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   Glen91482 | May 01, 2009 05:24am | #7

   Thanks man really every time I post stuff on here for advice its amazing, this is going to save me so much time.

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   brownbagg | May 01, 2009 05:27am | #8

   snorkle lift

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   Ted W. | May 01, 2009 05:30am | #9

   Just be careful, we want you to keep posting. ;)~ Ted W ~

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   Glen91482 | May 01, 2009 05:39am | #10

   yeah I know...the things I do for money.

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   seeyou | May 01, 2009 12:57pm | #11

   Lift a shingle or two and install roof jacks and boards in front of the chimneys and dormers. Remove the jacks when finished and caulkthe shingle back down. Or use ridge hooks or a combination of jacks and hooks. The boards give you somewhere to set your stuff down. Also, get some couch/chair cushions to sit on. Will hold you to the roof and isolate your butt from a hot roof.

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   MikeHennessy | May 01, 2009 02:54pm | #14

   "Also, get some couch/chair cushions to sit on."

   Man, you're way too spoiled! But now that you mention it, some nice fluffy cushions, a big-screen TV and some chilly ones might make even painting seem enjoyable! ;-)

   Serious Q tho' -- when you install your jacks, do you make sure to hit the rafters? Nails or screws? Reason I ask is, one time I nailed into the roof deck and ended up taking an express ride to Miller Time. Since then I've been pretty shy about nailing in a jack just anywhere.Mike HennessyPittsburgh, PAEverything fits, until you put glue on it.

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   Sphere | May 01, 2009 03:08pm | #15

   I can't answer for Grant, but I screw mine in. If its gonna tear up a shingle, I will go right over top. Then when tearing down, slip a scrap of copper or Ice guard under that hole, and a dab o' caulk. Then get some grit from the gutter and dust the caulk while wet.

   ETA: No, I don't aim for a rafter, but I don't weigh much.

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   Edited 5/1/2009 8:09 am ET by Sphere

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   MikeHennessy | May 01, 2009 03:12pm | #16

   Hey, thanks. You've been scarce lately! Hope that means the back's better and you're out workin"!Mike HennessyPittsburgh, PAEverything fits, until you put glue on it.

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   Sphere | May 01, 2009 10:23pm | #18

   The back is about 80% of good, driving long is still a chore.

   Work is coming along great, all quick odds n ends, no long drawn out stuff. Just about knocked out a staircase refinish..about 1/2 day monday left and it's behind me.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks

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   seeyou | May 01, 2009 03:18pm | #17

   do you make sure to hit the rafters? Nails or screws?

   Nah - Only roof jack I've ever seen come loose was nailed on with 1 1/4" roofing nails.  We try to hit the rafters, but we don't always. For attaching to an existing roof for repairs, we use screws usually - for installing the roof, we use nails. http://www.quittintime.com/      View Image        

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   seeyou | May 01, 2009 01:00pm | #12

   Also, putting a couple of holes in an asphalt shingle roof is not a big deal as long as you fix them when you're done. I'd rather make a couple of nail holes in a roof and be comfortable and safe while working than bust my tail falling off.  in the quest of "saving a few bucks". There's no profit to be made being a patient.

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   IMERC | May 01, 2009 01:34pm | #13

   sub it out...

    

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   WOW!!! What a Ride!

   
   Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

    

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