Anyone have a lever cap, an iron and chipbreaker in usable shape for a #4 or #5 plane? I donated my old clunker fixer uppers to andyfew and recently aquired a cool old plane that is missing some crucial parts. I’d like to keep this on the cheap.
TIA.
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There are tons of inexpensive planes for parts and parts for planes on Ebay. Many upgrade their old Stanleys with Hock or other replacement blades and chip breakers but they aren't cheap.
Beat it to fit / Paint it to match
Yeah, I know that, I'm just not crazy about the whole Ebay thing . Not that I wouldn't for some things, but this is so trivial..kinda not worth the whole paypal junk and all that.
I was hoping someone had a junker or parts pile here. Thanks anyways.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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I've had pretty good success going back to Stanley. Once you get their small repair parts person on the phone, they are really accommodating, and the prices are not bad. Some were even sent at no cost. They do appear to have a way to do it electronically now. http://www.stanleytoolparts.com/planes.html
Thanks, that I might try. I was hoping to "keep it in the family" here, being as we often swap stuff out with each other.
I'll check and see what gives there. Whatthe heck, nothing to lose.
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I'm pretty sure I've got an extra plane iron and chipbreaker laying around somewhere; I'm not sure about the lever cap. I'll check later and let you know.
those are 2" wide, right?
I think a #4 is 1 3/4" wide. This weekend I'll dig into my toolbox and see what I can find.
No, both the 4 smoother and 5 jack are 2''.
Actually I have the iron and breaker , the iron is pretty ground down and pitted, its the lever cap actually that I'm in bad need of. I checked the Stanley site and plenty of irons , breakers and screws, but I saw no lever cap.
I swiped one from my 4 just to set the screw in the frog ( two hours of Kroil soak, heat, impact driver, and heat, finally a pipe wrench, to gently loosen that screw, without it snapping) and see if the plane was worth keeping around, it is. So
SHEP if you are reading, I really need just a lever cap.
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Got all 3 pieces in a package ready to go, should be able to drop off at PO this AM. Put the iron and chip breaker in also, probably better shape than what you described you have left.
I actually passed on a #4 at a garage sale last week ($2, but cracked side plate of the body) That will teach me, never pass up anything somebody may need <G>
>>>That will teach me, never pass up anything somebody may need <G> Oh man, now that takes it to yet another level.......
Hey, guys. A little off-topic if'n you'll indulge me for a moment.I have some 40 year old-ish planes that I use. Craftsman low angle block plane, Stanley Bailey #5, and Stanley Bailey #6.I do love using these, esp. the #6 ! They seem to work well and I have done the Scary Sharp and tried to tune them up. But frankly I really have no idea how to actually tune or even use them according to Hoyle. I've just been winging it and tried to logically figure it all out on my own with no help from anybody or a book, etc. (other than the Scary Sharp online reading).What would be a good book for me to learn how to do this? I don't necessarily mean all the handplane junkie or history or collector stuff, just the utility of using the tool. (Although, I do have an interesting old compass plane somewhere in amongst my stuff, where the heck is it? LOL).Recommendation(s) for clueless handplane user?View Image
Hey Ken, Garrett Hack has a pretty good hand plane book. You should be able to find it easily.
Kimball
Parts are in the mail.
And who says a good deed never goes rewarded?
2nd stop today (after dropping of the parts at the PO) there is an adjustabel sole block plane for $1.
AND (posted this in another tread also, but too good to not tell:
Today, DW sees me wheeling a 6" planer from the end of the guy's driveway toward the front.
$25 for a Craftsman all cast circa 1965 6" planer, tight bearings, good 1 HP motor and stand. The knives were even straight and sharp.
Told DW "when I die, the grandkids wont have to fight over any tools, there will be one of everything for everybody! (only have 5 GK's, no expecting anymore, but only have 5 GOOD planers!)
Also got a cast iron TS with CI wings! The CI wings are what are hard to find.
Guy had a climbing harness and set of long tree climbing spikes. I've wanted a good set of those for years, first time I ever saw at a garage sale, and only $20 for ALL (8 carabiners and 100 ft of rope in the lot were worth the $20!) DW pretty insistent on this one 'you are just going to hurt yourself bad again!!!"
Oh well, got another good planer and another high end type block plane, which I use LOTS more than a #4.
Good score, !!!! I'm looking forward to playing with the baily, I wanna make a long handle and use it to plane flooring, while standing.
My only wonder is pivot or not? I think if I do pivot it, it'll flip over like a sponge mop, and if I don't, I have to learn the right angle/arc to have the best attack from above.
Funny the ergonomics of tools, we as humans have joints that all swing in an arc, and some if not most of the woodworking tools work best in straightline mode.
Thanks an I'll keep in mind for anything I got floating around...need any sandy belts? LOLSpheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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Ever been to Williamsburg where they have the mule pull a 3 ft plane down a board? Could be that is why they are straight line?? Just took the rope attach point off the front end.
Was going to post a pix, but cannot find one online right off.
Ya, I worked there for a long summer. If you was to take a 7" crown moulding profile and stretch it out, it can exceed 16" of effective blade cutting, hence the mule. We used horses when I was there.
The guy that rode the plane kept it from chattering, and the curler would shoot up outta the plane throat and over his shoulder. That was SYP too.
Plenty of parrafin or tallow or beeswax on the plane sole too.
I missed a lot of yard sales today, I hadda do two jobs at opposite ends of the world, and passed a few. But I only have 20 bucks cash with me anyway, so maybe better that I missed them.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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My only wonder is pivot or not?
As soon as I read your idea of a long handle to plane the floor, I thought you would need to pivot it. Otherwise you will have to maintan an exact position, too much chance to lift the nose or tilt to one side. I would think you would want a pretty good range of movement front to back, and maybe just a sloppy fit side to side. I wonder if you could afix a bungee cord thingee to keep the nose up unless the sole was pressed to the floor. That way it might not flop like the old sheetrock sanding pole always does to me."Put your creed in your deed." Emerson
"When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it." T. Roosevelt
Stanley made a plane just for that, I think it was fixed , like the rear tote. L don't have the pic handy. Rare as hens teeth and bring high dolla at auction.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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That would be the Stanley 74
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"Put your creed in your deed." Emerson
"When asked if you can do something, tell'em "Why certainly I can", then get busy and find a way to do it." T. Roosevelt
Ohhh..man.
Plane p0rn now too.
Ok, looks like a pivot for sure, and HEAVY. Notice the slight cambers all around? Thats why I was thinking wood base.
Talk about scrubbing the floor. I started hand planeing on a beam bench outside and shook my head and thought "wait a minute, what if?" Trim screw the floor down , plane, add decorative rose heads?
I found if you "set" copper slate nails with a 1/4" socket, they make dandy roseheads. This is for my living room floor. Gonnna be juniper and copper.
Tremont nail was really $$$. And the heads were too small. And I only have 2 lbs of them. Drive the nail along side the screw and bash the head over the hole. You can steer the copper nail at the last few swipes, or weld a socket to a palm nailer.
I'm having too much fun.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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Please dont ask if anyone has an extra 24" floor sander <G>
You can take some of F. Eddies belts and make a sander that does the floor in one sidewasy pass <G>
Right, checked this weekend. It's the #3 that's 1 3/4" wide.
I'm still hunting for a lever cap. Junkhound was kind enough to send an iron and chipbreaker, with a lever cap, but sadly the cap is stamped and not cast, and that recess is wrong for this plane, the screw bottoms out before the cap can tension.
I could cut the screw, but I'd rather have a heavier cap anyway (avoids chatter), I am adding a few pounds of lead as it is and want all the heft I can muster.Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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I didn't break into my big toolbox to check for parts, and I'm not sure what I have in there it's so far buried, but I will try to dig it out this weekend.
It seems like you would be more of a wood plane guy though. Need a lever cap for that, just whittle one.
I forgot about looking for parts for ya. I'm gettin' more and more senior moments.LOL
I'll try to remember to check tomorrow to see if I've got an extra lever cap. I know I've got one for a #3.
It might be wise to remind me <G>