Are there any guidelines for ballpark estimating rough-in plumbing costs for new construction? Custom, 2-story home about 2500 sq. ft. – typical bath configuration: 3 baths, each with toilet tub/shower, single sink; three or four exterior faucets; hot water heater; kitchen with two sinks and dishwasher.
Just looking for rules of thumb.
Thanks.
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Ballpark only, That is, somewhere in Shea Stadium, including the parking lot; $100-$150 per fixture, in your example, $1600-$2400.
SamT
What Sam said.
Maybe a bit more if there's a lot of run to connect water & sewer lines (like if the house is 80' feet back from the road).
Could also be a bit more if the plumber is special ordering fixtures for later, but need an extra x-week's lead time. That puts them on "this" draw rather than the "next," figuratively speaking.
Is this preplanning, or diagnosing a pain-in-the-wallet?
Pain in the wallet, actually. $12k for the setup I described. I know there's regional differences, but I'm in NW Indiana not Manhattan. This doesn't include any fixtures - they're on us.
You are paying a lot. We have high rates here where I am, but what you are describing would cost me about $7K, and that would include everything from the main valve in, through the water heater, manifolds, to every fixture, all DVW, and setting fixtures and finishing all trim at the end.
Have you gotten competitive bids from other plumbers? Have you offered to buy all the fixtures through your plumbing contractor?
Is there something about the region (yes, da "region") that jacks up costs?
$6000 for rough in $6000 for fixture, will not do one without the other
I did my own plumbing, but I didnt pass the first inspection so called
a friend of a friend to inspect before bringing the inspector back onsite. He said a house my size, about the same in plumbing as yours,
6K materials not including labor. Thats just rough plumbing. I figure
12K total for rough in.
Im in mid-michigan
That seems more reasonable. I've been told the labor rates are high because of the union factories in the area. Fact of the matter is, the industry has been in a tailspin for three decades, unemployment's high and the economy is weak - hardly a seller's market. I'll have to shop around. Thanks for the input.
What did you mean? Bob said 7K and you said 12K, that's not even close.
Are you talking about materials and labour? And I wonder the quotes from the other posters are for materials and labour as well.
If you can do a house like you described for 6K, I'd rather be an electrician. :)
Materials for the rough-in only - no fixtures, though. $12k seems like a lot to me, but I don't know, that's why I'm asking. How much are we talking for materials?
This doesn't include any fixtures - they're on us.
Then Brownbag may have hit it on the head--you may be getting a "problem" customer charge. Doesn't matter if you are or not--plumber may just be thinking ahead to when "his" work does not match the finished fixtures you select/install. Could be he's "gunshy" from having "fixed" other people's work for "free." (And this is purely speculative.)
Not that a sensible customer would do that or anything . . . Occupational hazard of my occupation not being around (sorry Bubba)
Reading this post, I see prices all over the place, so my input may be a little suspect:
My plumber typically runs PEX and ABS, with his proposals providing Delta/Moen/Kohler fixtures and one Acrylic jetted tub for the master bath; crystal handles on fixtures (who wants that?!). :-)
When I put together a bid on a new home, I know that his bid will be based on $600 per fixture (currently), so if the project is not too weird, I can base my bid on $700 to $750 per fixture.
This is all spelled out to the HO so that if they decide to install gold plated fixtures, tub/showers with TV and a computer, or if they want cast iron waste pipes to reduce noise, they know up front what the add-ons will add to the price.
The home I'm building now is 3300 sq. ft. and the rough-in/top-out (including septic hook-up) is $7600 with finish adding another $4600 for a total of $12,200....3 bathrooms, kitchen, a bar sink and an outdoor shower, and a larger jacuzzi tub in the master bath.
(SW Oregon, where the weather is bad, we're all impoverished, unemployment is high, it rains all the time....and buildfing is booming).