Went to work on my little copper roof project today and was asked to look at 6 curved dormers to be roofed with LCC on this home under construction .
Doug fir frame with infill studs and rafters .
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Hi Walter,
Neat photos, and they got me to thinking that Mr. Basswood ought to carve out a nice niche for himself and turn some of those brackets he makes into ones for timberframing.
Hope things are high and dry up there!
Best,
Steve
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Steve ,
According to the builder this fellow owns a lot of DC property .
This is a guest house for the overflow .
We're finally going to get some hot and dry August weather for the next week or so .
I'll be putting pics up tomorrow on the " front entrance roof " I've just got started on .
Best , Walter
Walter,That is some nice framing. Hope you get some dry weather.Chuck Slive, work, build, ...better with wood
Chuck ,
Going to give the builder a price on Monday for this job - just a mile from this other job .
We're going to have hot and dry weather for a week or so .
Best , Walter
Walter,Thar looks like a really good job. New work rather than old. Not to get ahead, but what will the flashing sequence be? Are you doing the rest of the roof and what will it be?Chuck Slive, work, build, ...better with wood
Chuck ,
Western Reds for the roof . That will be done by the builder .
If accepted I'll do the dormer roofs once they have shingled up that far .
Best , Walter
Grant ,
Would you roof these 6 dormers in LCC for $1600 a piece ??
Thanks man .
Walter
They are roughly 6' across the face . They'll need to be roofed in place , not in the shop .
The site is an hour away from my home .
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Depends on how hungry I was. Sounds a little light to me. But I think you must be getting a better price on LCC up there than I get here. But those things create a lot of waste material. Those flared sides up the skill/time quotient considerably vs a regular half round unit. I'm assuming the slope is a 12/12.http://www.quittintime.com/ View Image
Grant ,
Thanks , I'm still eating 3 sq.s a day -- and not slate either !
I thought I might be low so I thank you much . I'll bump it up to 2 and see what happens .
Thanks again , Walter
Noticed in the photos that Vycor is already installed to the wrap over the top of the window holes. What are they doing after the units go in?
David ,
I don't know the answer to that question since I've only been there once and my focus was on the dormers .
If I wind up working here I'll take more pictures of that procedure if it's being worked on .
Walter
Hi Walter,Thanks for the note earlier.Carr is (or I guess was, since they sold out a couple of years back) a huge commercial builder here in DC. Pretty well respected, too, from what I've gleaned.I wouldn't be shy about giving the price you deserve to work on his property.Now, what's up with the secret Masonic dormer behind/on top of the chimney? Looks like the seeing eye on the reverse of the dollar bill :)Best,
Steve'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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Steve ,
Thats so they can see the chimney and tell if it's in good shape I guess !!
Thanks for the report on the DC thing .
Best to you and the family ,
Walter
Walter,Glad to hear you got your bid in here. Maybe you can wrangle something with Mr. Carr and be the Slater to the Stars for DC?You said you were going to use LCC for the dormers. Is that something that works better in your marine climate than regular CU?Best,
Steve'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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Steve ,
It's nice to sleep in my own bed at nite too , so DC won't be too often !!
Archy speced LCC . It is used a lot up here near the Coast . I think color and looks play as much of a role as longevity , but thats just guessing .
Best regards , Walter
what is LCC? Just hit me as I finished typing ... Lead Coated Copper?
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Edited 8/16/2009 9:46 am ET by FastEddie
Yes thats right .
It's still apecified some even though lead is a scary word to some .
Revere makes a terne coated copper that looks similar without any lead .
Walter
Good looking guest house- but that dormer behind the chimney does look a little funny
Happy bidding
Dan ,
The bidding is always happy .It's once you've gotten the work that the realization sets in .
Copper strips and small nails headed out from the Brewer Post Office at 8 in the morning . Good luck with the bending and install . Later in the week maybe we'll be lining some gutters !!
Walter
So the dormers will be done with bright copper now after quoting LCC and asking for help here with Evergreen and the reaction between red cedars and CU .
Thanks to everyone for the help and advice .
Went there today to take some measurements and pictures .
They're mostly done framing and sheathing with 1 x 3 to make the curve .
The windows arrived while I was there clad Marvins .
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Walter,Does this mean Mr. Carr accepted your bid?If so, congratulations. Look forward to a fun thread.Best,
Steve'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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Steve ,
Yes , they would like me to cover these roofs in copper .
Best , Walter
0330...you ever sleep up there in Maine or what?Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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"If Brains was lard, you couldn't grease much of a pan"Jed Clampitt
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heat wave here -- woke up to use the facilities --thought I'd look in since the DT was still fired up .
Just looking at some stuff from the LT in the big city this morning , while hanging to wait for the copper truck to arrive .
You might wanna keep an eye on "BILL" looks to be headed to the NE and its a whopper. Keep the tarps handy!Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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Thanks for the heads up !!
I haven't got any roofs open . The front entrance roof has Grace Ultra and the builder will install it on these 6 when they are ready .
The builder is making progress getting the Marvins in place , Grace Ultra on the sheathed dormers , and ready for the front trim boards .
Looks like I'll be able to start bending copper next week !
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Walter,Looking forward to this for next week.What's the flashing material in the last pic? Lead? LCC?Thanks,
Steve'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
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Steve ,
The masons are building a stone fireplace , but not thru flashing it .
They are just flashing with sheet lead . My involvement came too late to point out the advantages of a true thru flashing job . A lot more money , but way less chance of water intrusion , especially using stone .
It's great looking aged granite from quarries just up the road . The owner has agreed to let me buy stumpage from the " grout " piles where this stone came from .
He's got a sundial made from this same stone from back at the turn of the century that I want to photograph next week too .
Best , Walter
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Blue label perfections going on , up to the dormer level so I can copper onto the shingles .
A picture of the neighbors sundial that was made nearby from stone right here . Nice piece of workmanship !!
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Are they banging lines for them shingles ? I found a nice jointed true straight edge works well. Last cedar I did was 5.5" exp. so I used 3 or 4 10' 1x6 that were as true as I could get em, and then could just lay the next one on top of the last one and leap frog up the roof. Then after a few courses, shift to my right and repeat. I pull from the ridge after aI get with in 6 or 8 courses and adjust exp. for paralell and come out looking even for the ridge detail, like the last one which was a comb.
To set my 1x6 on the last course I drive ( hand) 3d box nails so they just barely hold the 1x6 to the underlying course, no splits that way.
Word from Grant is I may have another cedar job coming up, but it requires more than just me, I may have a crew, that'll help this old body (G).
Sure looks like a nice place ya got to work at there, I hope the weather treats ya well.
Keep the pics flowing!Spheramid Enterprises Architectural Woodworks
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"If Brains was lard, you couldn't grease much of a pan"Jed Clampitt
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Duane ,
Yes they've got a faint yellow chalkline , snapped at the exposure on the face of these red cedars .
With slate I snap a bunch on the underlayment above the already laid shingles . Maybe the tops of these are too ragged to go by .
Hope that next gig comes along soon for you . Sounds like you haven't been as busy ( making money ) as you'd like .
Walter
walter,
I do enjoy these photo threads of yours and look forward to next week.
Excuse my ignorance but what's thru flashing, as opposed to setting the lead into the joints on the masonry?
Shear ,
Thanks for checking in on this thread .
It's not ignorance if you've never been exposed to some construction feature .
A thru flahing is where usually in Coastal areas when building a fireplace or large chimney , you flash right thru the chimney , including wrapping the flue tiles so water thats works thru the exposed areas above the roof line can't work their way downward and into the structure .
Usually done with stone and sometimes with brick too .
I put up a thread a few years ago about doing some .
Thanks , Walter