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Oak closet rod

| Posted in General Discussion on January 24, 2004 05:08am

I am looking, but cannot find.  I am finishing up a mudroom right off the entry foyer of a high end house.  No doors on the mudroom, as it forms a passage to a half-bath in one direction, and a den in another.  All the accents are oak, and I want oak for the exposed hanger rods, preferably 1-5/16 diameter.  Anyone know a source?

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  1. Sancho | Jan 24, 2004 06:29pm | #1

    Not in NY but check most Hardwood lumber yards here such as Austins or Reel lumber sell Oak Dowls of various dia. just for that purpose.

     

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  2. WayneL5 | Jan 24, 2004 06:48pm | #2

    If you strike out with suppliers they would not be all that hard to make.  On a tablesaw or bandsaw cut stock into octagons.  A half hour with a plane would make them round.

  3. PhillGiles | Jan 24, 2004 06:55pm | #3

    If you really get stuck, there should be a "turner's" club somewhere near you; there's usually a line of guys there who'll turn something for a couple of bucks.

    .

    Phill Giles

    The Unionville Woodwright

    Unionville, Ontario

  4. MisterT | Jan 24, 2004 07:59pm | #4

    Microman,

    Make sure You spec. Quartersawn for closet rods, it is much less prone to sagging.

    Mr T

    Do not try this at home!

    I am an Experienced Professional!

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      jonblakemore | Jan 24, 2004 08:32pm | #5

      How can you tell the difference? 

      Jon Blakemore

    2. bkhy | Jan 24, 2004 08:38pm | #6

      i thought they were round.

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      BillHartmann | Jan 24, 2004 08:41pm | #7

      Yes, but qtr swan cost about 50% more.

      Just get a plain sawn one and turn it 90 degrees.

    4. WayneL5 | Jan 24, 2004 08:50pm | #8

      Forget quartersawn.  There is no such thing as quartersawn or flatsawn on a round piece of wood.  You'll throw your money away and they'll laugh at you.

      1. gdavis62 | Jan 24, 2004 09:29pm | #9

        Enough of this silliness.  I'll specify plain sawn or flat and get them at a lower price.

        Now, really, where can I get these boogers?  Rockler has 1-1/4" diameter oak, 36" length, at a ridiculous price, but I need 4 at 96", for my parts, some of which are 52" long.

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          IMERC | Jan 24, 2004 09:57pm | #11

          Oak curtain rods... 

          Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....

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            BillHartmann | Jan 25, 2004 03:10am | #16

            That is a good idea. These are 1 1/8"

            http://www.swagsgalore.com/wocuro.html

            But you have to pay for the fitting which you will throw away.

            Also might try here. They have oak dowels, some of the dowels are 48", but species is not listed.

            And they have 1 3/8 by 72" poplar.

            http://www.woodnshop.com/CRAFT_DOWEL_RODS.htm

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            IMERC | Jan 25, 2004 04:05am | #17

            The Oak rods I put up were 1-3/8" dia and came in 16' lenghts. 

            Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....

          3. Novy | Jan 25, 2004 04:31am | #18

            @ 16' long I hope you put them up with the proper 1/4 sawn orientation !On a hill by the harbour

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            IMERC | Jan 25, 2004 04:39am | #19

            1/4 sawn... Never paid a lick of attention. 

            Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....

        2. stonefever | Jan 24, 2004 10:10pm | #12

          What's the finish of the other accents?  Such as hinges, door hardware, etc.

          Maybe a similarly finished pipe.  I've had some pipe powder coated to serve as a closet rod.  Brass or chrome are readily available.  There are pipe hangers available from the plumbing supply that can be lagged into the studs.

          On the other hand, with oak trim, I've also had a 4" wide piece of oak rabbeted to fit on the front of an oak plywood shelf.  It takes away any sway on the shelf as well as covers up the rolled steel closet rod attached underneath the shelf.  You may need to rip the 4" down depending upon the size of your rolled steel hook and your taste. 

          1. gdavis62 | Jan 24, 2004 11:45pm | #13

            Actually, if I want painted steel tube and want to go high style, Hafele has it, including matching (and sleek looking) end fittings, fasteners all concealed.  The offering of powder-coated color finishes is very attractive.  Check it out at their website.

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            BossHog | Jan 27, 2004 10:45pm | #32

            If you can't come up with a big enough piece of oak rod, how about a piece of pipe covered with oak veneer?

            Quarter sawn veneer, of course.................(-:We are not infallible, just final [Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas]

        3. caseyr | Jan 28, 2004 03:01am | #37

          Oak handrails - 8' but 1 1/2" in diameter - and they ain't cheap

          http://www.brassfinders.com/railing_tubing_solidoak.php

          http://www.thehardwarehut.com/railing_tubing_solidoak.php

          Lists a price of $6.00, but doesn't say for what - per foot?

          http://www.millworkproducts.com/Vendors/Leepers/HtmPages/handrail.htm

          Dowels 1 1/4, but only 48" long

          http://www.vandykes.com/product/02000190/

          http://www.cardinalenterprises.com/dowels_oak.htm

          Unfortunately for Mr. T, none of them specify 1/4 sawn...

          1. MisterT | Jan 30, 2004 03:13pm | #38

            obviously they don't cater to discriminating clientele!Mr T

            Do not try this at home!

            I am an Experienced Professional!

          2. wrick2003 | Jan 30, 2004 04:01pm | #39

                  Oddly enough, after lurking on this trhread for a couple of days, I have begun noting the species of wooden closet rods that I happen to encounter.

                 Saw one yesterday that was oak, but it was two pieces of 1 1/4", joined with a double lag screw, the joint falling exactly on the center of the hook on the shelf bracket.

                 rg 

    5. Novy | Jan 24, 2004 09:30pm | #10

      Trying to have a little fun are we Mr T ?On a hill by the harbour

      1. MisterT | Jan 25, 2004 03:04am | #15

        Who me?Mr T

        Do not try this at home!

        I am an Experienced Professional!

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    Sphere | Jan 25, 2004 01:52am | #14

    take Square of oak that is about 1 1/2 ea. side..round over all 4 edges with a 3/4 in roundover router bit, sand to smooooth..ya got it.ya need a router table and dont go all the way to the end, leave a part sq. to ride on the table and against the fence..may have to leave an area in the center too..plane that to match the rounded part...Reeeel easy to do.

  6. FastEddie1 | Jan 25, 2004 06:24am | #20

    Here's a serious suggestion...why does it have to be round?  Why not a 3/4" or 1" wide x 1-1/2" high piece of stock, with the top edges rounded over.

    Whenever you are asked if you can do a job, tell'em "Certainly, I can!"  Then get busy and find out how to do it.  T. Roosevelt

    1. Novy | Jan 25, 2004 06:30am | #21

      In that case it should be quartersawn ....... ;)On a hill by the harbour

      1. FastEddie1 | Jan 25, 2004 06:34am | #22

        And which way does the grain show...toward the wide face, or toward the curved top?Whenever you are asked if you can do a job, tell'em "Certainly, I can!"  Then get busy and find out how to do it.  T. Roosevelt

        1. Novy | Jan 25, 2004 06:46am | #23

          Hmmmmmmm ? Trick question !

           I would say the flat sawn face ~ wiggly woodlike shapes (1 1/2"-2 1/2") should be in your normal upright eyeline & if you crouched down or got on a ladder you would see the 1/4 sawn face ~ parrallel narrow straight shapes (3/4"-1 1/2")

          On a hill by the harbour

           

          I just read back & you definately got me ! It should be a flatsawn piece !

           

          Edited 1/24/2004 10:49:02 PM ET by NOVY_7

          1. FastEddie1 | Jan 25, 2004 08:11am | #24

            Actually it wasn't a trick question, it was a smarta$$ response to the maroon who proposed a quartersawn round rod.  But now that you have thought about it, which way would be right?  Is there a right way?  Qtr wood looks nice and expands differently, but is it necessarily any stronger?  If not, I would make the most visible side be the pretiest.

            Whenever you are asked if you can do a job, tell'em "Certainly, I can!"  Then get busy and find out how to do it.  T. Roosevelt

          2. Novy | Jan 25, 2004 08:13am | #25

            Look at your baseball bat & you will understand the added strength of 1/4 sawn .......

            On a hill by the harbour

             

            P.S. I am a woodworker and find 1/4 grain prettier because I understand the strength factor & the complexity of 1/4 cutting a log.

            Edited 1/25/2004 12:16:52 AM ET by NOVY_7

          3. MisterT | Jan 25, 2004 10:38pm | #29

            it was a smarta$$ response to the maroon who proposed a quartersawn round rod. 

            I resemble that remark!!!Mr T

            Do not try this at home!

            I am an Experienced Professional!

          4. Novy | Jan 26, 2004 01:58am | #30

            LOLOn a hill by the harbour

  7. Novy | Jan 25, 2004 08:44am | #26

    Good point

    On a hill by the harbour
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      JeffBuck | Jan 25, 2004 08:57am | #27

      you're never gonna be able to saw thru oak with a quarter ....

      I know those little indentations on the edge kinda look like a saw ...

      but trust me ...

      it just won't work.

      JeffBuck Construction   Pittsburgh,PA

           Artistry in Carpentry                

      1. FastEddie1 | Jan 25, 2004 05:34pm | #28

        No no no!  You only have to saw a quarter of the way through, then it's time for a commercial break.  Whyen you get back, it will be painted fuscia and draped with chiffon.  Silly boy.Whenever you are asked if you can do a job, tell'em "Certainly, I can!"  Then get busy and find out how to do it.  T. Roosevelt

      2. AdamB | Jan 27, 2004 09:13pm | #31

        Maybe if you drilled a hole in the quarter, stuck a bolt through the hole, and chucked that up to a drill?

        I can see you now,having your next new employee / newbie "quarter saw" some chunk of wood.

        LOL

        Adam

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          JeffBuck | Jan 28, 2004 02:36am | #36

          No ...

          ..... that's how I know it won't work ....

          tried that when I couldn;t figure out how to make the little table saw ......

          JeffBuck Construction   Pittsburgh,PA

               Artistry in Carpentry                

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    briankeith | Jan 27, 2004 11:51pm | #33

    You didn't mention the length of rod you needed

    but here is a source for 36 and 48".

    They have 1 1/4 and 1 3/8.

    http://www.woodworker.com/cgi-bin/FULLPRES.exe?PARTNUM=809-967

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      IMERC | Jan 28, 2004 12:24am | #34

      http://forums.taunton.com/tp-breaktime/messages?msg=39134.10 

      Who ever invented work didn't know how to fish....

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        Sphere | Jan 28, 2004 01:13am | #35

        screw em together like pool cue..

        Go Stab yourself Ya Putz! Ya think I Parked here?

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