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I don’t know about the rest of you, but I’m sick and tired of everything offending somebody. Someone around my home here is complaining about kids wearing ball caps to school. It offends this one or that one. Some guy said he was offended by grown men wearing diapers on their heads. He wondered if a kid could wear a rag around his head to school because it’s part of his religeon. I heard Santa Clause was kicked out of a Christmas Parade somewhere because it offended someone. Here’s what I’m saying to anyone who takes offense around me. F#$% you. Now does that offend you? I’m about sick of it.
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Backwward baseball hats offend me, but I figure they're trying to make sure everybody knows they're a moron by wearing 'em that way?
*Well, I find the taped dinging-donging unchristian christmas carol muzak pumped out around the neighbourhood via bloody great speakers by the local Babtist (sic) church at this time of year irritating to the n'th degree. I just wish they'd keep their whacky christianity to themselves, thanks very much. Can't they genuflect and pray quietly to their god in their church without inflicting that awful tuneless bleeding racket on us all? Talk about noise pollution. ;-) Slainte, RJ.
*I have a sign that hangings on the inside of my shop door. It reads "If you have any problems or take any offence with the conversation in my shop, PLEASE don't let this door hit you on the way out" As for anyone who works for me or with me, I tell them up front that I don't beat around the bush, if you have a problem/question than spit it out because I will have no problem with asking them. I don't tiptoe around, it is to hard in steel toe boots. And on the topic of religion don't get me started. I take offense to that last comment. Babtist is spelt Baptist. ;o>Scott
*If some kid wants to wear his baseball hat backwards,why would it bother me? I just assume he is the catcher( like my son) on whatever team he is on.now christmas lights----THAT'S a topic to bitch about.Can't stand 'em,never have.Why must our neighborhoods be festooned with a baragge of blinking,flashing,annoying neon colored lights.Around here the hillbillies start putting them up in october and leave em up till about march.BTW I have noticed that the trend now is !@#$%^& halloween lights.I expect next year to see Easter bunny lights.
*I find that pretty much everything offends me, so everybody is equal in my eyes.Actually, I spend a good deal of time marvelling at how dopey most of these things are. Kids with backwards baseball caps? They look like idiots, but obviously that's the look they want to achieve. Do I care? Nope, but then why would I care about idiots.Lights and Music? If its noise and light pollution that that impacts on me, then I care. If not, then it just makes me thankful I don't live next door to them. If the neighbors don't care, then I don't care. All this stuff comes down to a basic credo. Don't do anything that needlessly pisses off your neighbors. If it doesn't impact on anyone else, then do whatever you please. Live and let live.Funny thing is, the people who infringe on others never seem to realize that their choices are annoying others. They think it's a great idea and everybody should thank them for it. SHG
*Do Babtists genuflect?
*I'm only offended by actions that effect me directly.I don't care that someone wants to tell the world that he's an idiot by wearing a baseball hat backwards. It's still better than proving it.Gabe
*Fads and Trends that are set by one idiot or another doesn't offend me at all. If someone wants to wear their hat backwards or tie it around their neck, who cares?To those that are offended easily---get a hobby. Stop looking into everything as a personal affront. Stop reading between the lines.
*....on a lighter note, as my father always says... "It's really too bad, another hat sold and installed without instructions"
*You go Tara!My sentiments exactly. Folks who have time to look for offensive things have too much free time.Unless their hobby is looking for others' offensive hobbies?!?!Mike
*Why is it idiotic to wear a baseball hat backwards? I'm not much of a hat wearer, but the few times I've worn a baseball hat, I found the brim is only useful to block the sun or rain. If it ain't sunning or raining, the brim only blocks the view and gets in the way. Turning it around not only flaunts convention, but can be eminently practical! :)>the people who infringe on others never seem to realize that their choices are annoying others.And people who readily find others annoying never seem to realize the ways in which they are annoying. (Actually thinking of some family, not anyone specific here. Though come to think of it...)
*I finally started improving in my personal life when I ultimately realized everyone is crazy but me. That goes double for this thread. BTW I'm an amateur psychiatrist if you need help just let me know. does the attached offend anyone?
*"Easter bunny lights"LOLROTF!!!
*How do you offend a stupid person? I told a guy in a Missuola Montanna bar that the shot he missed to lose a game of pool to me would have killed a lesser man- if we could find one.Zoom!left scorch marks on his head as it went over...mostly I pay little attention to the world around me-so I don't care if I am pc.Wife doesn't take me to many corporate functions and I am constantly being lectured on how to better state things.that bugs me- I'm not an idiot- I only play one.I'm with you Coyner!
*Tara, kcoyner,You two are the bomb. Working for the gov im constantly being bombarded with one politically correct thing or another, Native American month, where I have to sit through a mandatory 1 hour plus lecture on how the white man took there lands ( im italian decent and my family wasnt even around here then) not to mention Black Hertiage month, Hispanic month womans month, I have to go to "diverity training" every year. Its to the point now where I cant carry on a conversation in front of anyone no kidding. I have to leave the office or go for a walk with the person to carry on a conversation. I wish these politically correct idiots would get a life and reconize that everyone has a opinion or a different point of view. Just the other day I had to go to a manadtory meeting where a Islamic cleric gave a hour lecture on Islam. I had no fore warning about it but I had to listen to this guy tell me his sanitized version of his religion cuz of "diversity" I hate those morons(pc people) more than you guys can imagine. I got chewed out by a black guy I worked with once cuz he bought a new cadillac and I told him it was a "chick mobile"and he's all offended because he claims I made a racist remark something about blacks and cadillacs which all i said it seemed like a nice car to pick up chicks in. In the words of the great philosopher kcoyner all you pc people if you dont like the way I live my life or what i have to say....F@##k Y** and the horse you rode in on.
*Ron-the horse is an innocent. you are victimizing it if you assign the "sins of the father" or in this case the rider.If the horse was in fact aware of the transgression then you have a case- you are right and just to f#@&k the horse, but if said horse was clueless then you are assaulting its' character and may be subject to a further action on the horses behalf- slander comes to mind.you should walk softly my friend
*Hi Ron, little testy, eh?I like to look upon sitting through Native American Month, Black History Month, Hispanic Heritage Month, Women History Month as enlightenment....I always learn something.....I, however, don't think anyone should be made to do this; that's a waste of time.....Can lead a horse to water, but can't make it drink.......
*What I really hate are people who spend all their time bitching about what everyone else is doing. They are mostly the one's who need to clean their own house before they worry about another's. They're the kind of folks who just love to bitch about anything, sitting in their front windows just waiting for anyone to take an errant step onto their front lawn so they can bitch at them for stepping on the grass. Ya know what I mean. Real anal jerk-offs with nothing better to do.I hate disrespectful, rude and/or selfish, greedy people.I hate people that say stupid shit like "don't complain about the ghetto scumbags, they make our society diverse". Get a life!!!I hate Political Correctness. Get some thicker skin you bunch of whiny freaking pansy asses!!Oh yeah, and I hate "Holier than Thou" people. Always thumbing their freakin noses at someone or trying to impress somebody with their over inflated ego's and facades.I hate stupid peopleI hate lazy people and quiters and losers.I HATE LIARS!!I hate cowards.I hate over-sensitive whiners.I hate not being able to remember all of the other stuff I hate.Have a great day,Pete
*Sounds like you hate a lot.....What do you like?
*Hmmm, I hate that I'm intolerant of intolerance and prejudiced against prejudiced people. Got a loooong way to go . . . Workin' on it, 'though.
*I have mentioned in the past the unusual situation we have at home. I'm self-employed and my wife works for the (very PC) city. We mostly don't talk about it anymore. But she's getting better...But my BIL is one of the coolest guys I know. He's a rancher, been here since before dirt...tells it like it is. Me too. Too many namby pamby wussies in the world...Phillip K. Howard's book The Death of Common Sense is still one of my favorites.
*I like all the stuff that I don't hate.Honest peoplekidshard workerspeople who are generous in helping out otherscaring peopleGeorge BushMy Countrygood foodmy wife (most of the time )aggravating the living shit out of you ;-)BabiesNatureBusinessHustle and bustlePoliticsnot being a prick because I have nothing better to do.Being such a god-damned good-looking genius.etc.Pete
*Ron, I agree. I have to go through the same "diversity days". I thought we were supposed to treat everyone the same? If so, then why don't we have a "sameness day" and celebrate all the ways we are the same instead of accenting the ways we're different. Even better, cut out all that stuff and concentrate on just getting our work done.
*Hate to disappoint you, Pete, but you are the least of my nemisis.....Just curious......
*That would work, Cynthia, if we would count the ways we are all the same.....Can't do that without educating........
*Hey Pete,Is the opposite of nemisis....sisimen?I hear Bin is getting closer to all those virgins. Boy won't he be disapointed..they never said that the virgins were women.Gabe
*There you go Rich....finally....A book that I have and read with my Hooked on phonics lessons.Gabe
*nemesis........mea culpa, mea culpa, made a mistake.......
*Pete's "I hate..." reads like a Desiderata for the new century!
*>I thought we were supposed to treat everyone the same?Equality isn't treating different people the same; it's treating different people differently.
*Alright Pete!!!I thought about it when I read your post, that you may be directing your comments at me, "cleaning my own house" as you said. But then I realized we'er on the same page. I would like to add that I need and can take a "go f@%& yourself " from time to time. I may bitch a little now and then as I've done here but I ain't gonna call in the ACLU or the freakin media or the law or anyone else.
*Kcoyner,I am right in line with you. Seriously. People bitch about every damned thing anymore. You can't do a damned thing anymore either.There is bitching and then there is whining... whining is like bitching but more petty or something like that. Oversensitivity is a real under-the-skinner too. Wah wah wah. Freakin' pansies!Pete "not only the same page but the same book" Draganic
*Oh yeah, Cloud, I hate terms that I don't know.What is a "desiderata for the new century"?
*Say Pete, would that you be you bitching about bitching about bitching? Anything seem ironic about this?SHG
*Pi "I like to look upon sitting through Native American Month, Black History Month, Hispanic Heritage Month, Women History Month as enlightenment....I always learn something.....I, however, don't think anyone should be made to do this; that's a waste of time.....Can lead a horse to water, but can't make it drink......."I agree I have learned alot from some of these programs but I dont like sitting there being told i am satan because I am white and a male. I have left some of the programs totally offended. the presentation was way way off base. but I really dont like the people whose first response to not getting what they want or desire in any situation is to cry discrimination. hate that. ive been a victem of discrimination. A huge fat porker I used to work with called me and asked me uot onna day. i refused from that moment on she harrassed me at every chance she could. She eventually got fired for using/abusing the system but not until the damage to me was done. its crazy ya know. i think we have pushed this diversity thing beyond education to brainwashing and rewritting history.
*Ain`t the evolution of society a wonderful thing!
*Pi I guessing you have never sat thru a gov diversity training lecture.... total waste!Ron having sat thru many diversity trainings from the US Gov I gotta agree what a waste of time. I always took the occasion to screw with whom ever was the unfortunate soul to be giving said lecture. Play devil's advocate and ask really pointed questions that there is no right answer to! Screw unto others before they screw unto you!!! I believe Ted Nuggent's "I am a Bad American" is as PC as I need to get. As far as X-mas lights walk around the neigborhood and remove 1 light per strand problem solved, and if they fix it you got something to do later in the week. All the overly sensitive can kiss my no non-sense ass!JMOWestern
*I've heard that Crapillacs are often called a 'JuKanoo.' about as comfortable, and steering similar to a white water experience. Just passing on local Texas wisdom. Slainte, RJ.
*Phonetics Scott, phonetics. Just mimicked the local pronunciation, hence the (sic). ;-) P's ar b's, and t's are d's. It can be confusing. Slainte, RJ
*"Go placidly amid the noise and the haste and remember what peace there might be in silence..."You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars..."Something along those lines. We were forced to memorize it in 6th grade. But I remember the parody, "You are a freak of the universe...you have no right to be here...and whether you can hear it or not the universe is laughing behind you back."You know, I bet Noof knows it. Or try googling. It's the name of a poem.Hey, look, there it is! I just love the Internet!http://www.macedonia.co.uk/mcic/soulandspirit/desiderata/desidero.aspMan, the stuff you can cram into your brain when you are 12 years old.
*Gabe, what do you mean? Clarify please.
*>I hate terms that I don't know. desiderata was a hippie-dippie top-ten song from the seventies derived from a poem from 1927. http://artandpoetry.com/myth.htmlYour "I hate" essay in a funny way seemed like a modern, warped version. No real point to this other than the one made me think of the other."Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence. As far as possible without surrender be on good terms with all persons. Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even to the dull and the ignorant; they too have their story. Avoid loud and aggressive persons, they are vexatious to the spirit" etc etc etc
*Theo, the spoof is by National Lampoon. http://www.goldrush.com/~kmcclure/texts/deterior.htm
*Ah, thank you Cloud. It is all so much clearer now. The memories are overwhelming!
*Ron, you spent an hour listening to a lecture about how the white men took the Native Americans' land and think because you're Italian you had nothing to do with it?They blame the whole thing on one specific Italian, Columbus. The first worst White Guy in North America was Italian. Pay attention Ron or they'll make you listen to it all twice. :) Joe H
*Ron, I guess my diversity training exeriences are different than yours....I'm talking about acknowledging different cultures, learning about them and their history, etc.......However, sometimes those lessons are painful....No, I would not like being made to feel like Satan and I don't.....Hopefully, we've learned from our mistakes in the past and treat different cultures with the respect they deserve......BTW, my grandmother was constantly called a "half-breed and squaw" by a lot of narrow minded people.....She was half Cherokee.....Didn't change her, just hurt like hell......
*..."I bet Noof knows it"......Funny , Teddie............Newf...
*Sorry Joe,So far the earliest documented "white men" were vikings landing in Newfoundland. :)Gabe
*SOmetimes I think that is true Mike R. There are actual people out there that thrive on not only finding fault and offense in everything under the sun, but love it!
*Rich,Means I agree about the book. I read it and think that there are a lot of interesting and valid points in it.Gabe
*Ron--I couldn't have said it better!In the last few years it seems, the rise of political correctness has gotten way out of hand.Can't have Halloween in schools--might offend the witch haters.Can't celebrate Easter--might offend those that hate bunny rabbits.Santa Claus? Forget about it. Doesn't everyone know that Santa is a Democrat? He gives presents to everyone, whether they deserve them or not.The last straw for me came when I heard that a boy was suspended from school for displaying an American flag on his locker. This is America folks!! If you cannot display the colors of the symbol of our freedoms in this country, then obviously we weren't as free as we had thought.Get a grip people---everyone isn't out to get you, if you have opinions different than mine, great--I would love to discuss them in an adult forum. But get off the guilt trips and drop the offensive stance. I don't care!Whew---I feel cleansed now.:-)
*I like:My husbandMy countryPolticsPepsiDogsand a really good book on a cold winter's night, surrounded by my husband, my dog, watching the great politics in my country.
*JMO--Been there, done that on the diversity training that my government shoves down my throat.I was also put on the committee for Black History month because our base thought that the white people needed "culture"---not one single black person was on this committee.Does this make any sense?
*Yeah, and ya know what? Lutefisk offends me. It should offend everyone. Uhg.did
*i they never said that the virgins were women. Or Human! Oink oink oink...did
*i watching the great politics in my countryTara, I didn't know you were Canadian! : )Jeff
*I was surprised at the school's program here. They celebrated dressing up in October, placed a festive bush in the Loby for Christmas, and made no mention at all of Remebrance day in November. There's something wrong when they find ways around the PC police for the fun parties, but leave out honouring the folks who defended freedom and reminding the kids how valuable our lifestyle is to us. Maybe there's a Nazi faction someplace they're afraid they'll offend by having a remembrance day programme.(BTW Remembrance Day is Canadian for Veteran's Day I think)Maybe I'm one of those pissants who is easily offended by this, but I think we ought to be remembering the real heroes of the world, the ones who actually saved our society, rather than paying homage to Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny.
*Gabe, for some reason they don't count. It's Columbus all the Hate Whitey crowd are pissed at. The Vikings get a pass. Joe H
*You folks are a hoot.I'm not a busy person, but I don't have time to reflect on the "proper" way to wear a cap. I do happen to love hats and sometimes choose to wear them. Wearing hats is a test. It tests the people that see you in it. If they think you are an idiot because you wear a hat, or wear it in a way that they disapprove of, then they pass the test. I do happen to occasionally find myself analyzing the human being under the hat. I use that hat to formulate opinions about the histroy and life's path of the person under the cap. For instance, I met a man last week and he had on an awesome fedora. I immediately wanted to converse with this man, simply because I've worn them myself. He looked out of place in this poor rural village. I later looked at his business card which had his picture on it and wondered why he didn't have the fedora on for the picture. It was just a perfect look for him.I'm willing to look anyone in the eyes, beneath their towel, backward baseball cap, leather plopper, or cowboy bucket. I don't claim to like everybody, but I can't say that I've judged anyone's compentency by their cap. I might find them amusing. I might associate a cap with something I fear. I might even hate the thing they are wearing (hardhats!). I like hats. Hats don't indicate anything about a persons intellect, social status, or spirit.blue
*Blue, you been over to AJ's place? Joe H
*Joe believe me I know that part of history, I guess I am satan after all. Our org has been getting better the last native american month they had one of the code marine talkers come and talk it was interesting. Why not talk about the indian tribes that were wiping each other out during the same time period. I just hate to be forced to listen to that slighted interest based crapola
*I still think people who wear baseball caps backward look like idiots, and anybody who thinks otherwise is a politically correct facilitator. Fedoras are another matter altogether.SHG
*I wear baseball caps to cover my bald head, i also wear them backwards when i work so they dont get in the way. Baseball caps dont offend me. clothes do not offend me. What offends me is someone trying to tell me not to:eat meatwear furdont talk like that(unless its around kids and women)dont cut that tree downdont drive that vehicle cuz it uses to much gasyou shouldnt have a hand gun cuz it kills people (but they wont give up there cars which kills even more people in the same time period).dont wear leather shoesdont eat that fruit cuz it supports those who oppressing the farm workersgotta teach kids the gays are "another acceptable lifestyle" while christians are full of hate cuz they dont accept that lifestyle.telling kids use a condom to have safe sex and not dont have sez at all cuz thats the only real way to be safeand on and on it goes
*>telling kids use a condom to have safe sexIf you want safe sex, then wear the baseball hat backwards or you'll poke her in the forehead.
*Not really SHG, a fedora looks silly when worn backwards too. I find the baseball hats worn backwards at inappropriate times; or worse, worn sideways and at defying angles, particularly disturbing. The wearer is symbolically screaming at you that they have chosen to blindly follow fads and trends; that they have no talent or desire to lead; that they wish to be disruptive to society; and that they strive only for mediocrity. It's one thing to waste your live through circumstances, it's quite another to work at becoming a failure.
*All that from just a hat?! Wow. I'm in awe of your powers. Me? I never could never have discerned anything nearly that insightful or meaningful from a piece of cloth on someone's head. A tip o' the cap to ya.
*As a fat,middle aged bald guy I claim the right to wear any hat,any way I freaking want to.I have even been known to sport the bandana dew rag look while roofing.( I prefer to think it makes me look like a pirate and not like an "urban youth"----in reality it makes me look like a schmuck but it does keep the sweat out of my eyes.)Wearing offensive headwear allows bald guys like me to compensate for our lack of hair----and It saves me from buying a sportscar to compensate for other things.Ron's mention of people who don't want you to eat red meat----reminded me of a Tommy Smothers quote I ran into yesterday----" Red meat isn't bad for you. Now blue green meat---THAT'S bad for you!"
*>I prefer to think it makes me look like a pirate and not like an "urban youth"If it makes you feel any better, I'm betting you do look more like a pirate than an urban youth. Not that you look anything like a pirate, but...On second thought, I think we need a photo.SHG
*Yesterday my 5 year old son splashed in from playing in the rain. As he perched on the edge of his chair, wearing his backwards baseball cap over a tie-dyed do-wrap, Scooby Doo sweatshirt, paint-covered overalls and red rubber boots, I thought of you all and smiled. You would have smiled too.P.S. All of you light haters - best avert your gaze as you drive by our house. The kids talked me into putting a string of lights, supported by 3 foot "candy sticks", along both sides of our 100 foot driveway. (At least our driveway is not visible from any of the neighbor's houses.) Ho ho ho!
*Ah yes, but ARE they idiots? Or are they only disguised as idiots? You know, it's possible that some of the people who wear them foreward are idiots disguised as smart people. Will bringing a bill forward increase a person's IQ? How about boaters - how do you know if it's foreward or backward? (That's a trick question, by the way. Foreward and the bow is on the left. Or is it the right....) Top hats? Santa's hat? The Easter Bunny's hat? Wait, EB doesn't even HAVE a hat. What is HE trying to say? This requires research. I think I can get a guest lecturer spot in the "Textiles and Clothing" department of my alma mater with this thing. You just never know what might come out of stopping by the Tavern.The rage shared:http://untruenews.com/1999/fm37/page4.htm
*You gotta be pretty narrow minded to draw conclusions about someone based on the way they wear their hat. Get a frikkin' grip.
*They "look like idiots." What's your first language, Jim?Lisa, children under 7 are exempt from all things negative. And wearing the hat the right way doesn't make them look smart, just makes them look like they should be on a baseball team or a tractor.(notice the words "look like" appearing again, Jim?)SHG
*Oh, I get it! So that must mean that someone who wears it sideways looks like either an idiotic baseball player or an idiotic tractor driver. Thanks for the insight - must add that to my class notes.(If you could see my face you would immediately notice the twinkle in my eye and the smile on my lips, which isn't easy to do with your tongue planted firmly in your cheek.)
*Nope, never have......Now hold on folks, my point is, diversity training to me is something entirely different than some of you have exerienced and apparently, it hasn't done any good......I teach in an urban area with the baggy pants, hats backward(all from the hip-hop culture)and kids who can't walk because their pants are falling down......I don't find this offensive, just different......I wouldn't choose to do it, would look pretty funny, but I understand their need to be an individual.....I went through the short hair, long hair, afro(even had one, although I looked pretty funny with my thin hair, had to do a lot of perming).....What I find offensive is the inability to accept that others have just as strong opinions as yours and the inability to accept this.....I find words like wop, kike, turban head, nigger, slope eyes offensive, yet we have all heard them, probably even used them...Just as in art, if you don't like it, don't look at it.....If that is impossible, try to understand why some have the same right to do it as you......Rant over......If we all turned our heads away from diversity, we would be a very boring society......
*All right, all right, you're all missing the point. I don't care HOW you wear your hats, what bugs me is that no one takes their hats off inside anymore. It used to be men were supposed to take them off inside, but that women could keep their hats on because it was "part of the ensemble." Well, that distinction between the sexes is now gone, so no one takes their hats off indoors or as a sign of respect for an older person or whatever. I used to ask the kids in my college classroom to please have the repect to remove their hats in my classroom (along with no food or newspapers or cigarettes or walkmen, or whatever else they needed to express themselves and avoid paying attention) but they had never heard of the custom. So I gave up.
*Callin' me a politically correct facilitator eh' Shg? I do think otherwise.I call anyone that hangs out with an entire crowd of people who think there is a correct way to wear baseball caps....well, controlling and weird.You guys gotta be pulling my leg.blue
*i " no one takes their hats off inside anymore" Move to a better neighbourhood, I take my hat, my son takes his hat off: lot's of people have not yet become ill-mannered cretins. Jim, and whom-ever else, no-one's telling you to wear a hat or how to wear it: they're just telling you what messages you're sending.
*Too bad Theodora. You have every right to set expectations in your class. By caving in, you gave up something that is a part of you, and your classroom experience.blue
*Phill, I'm glad the world has people like you. You politely take your hat off as you claim to be a mannered cretin, while looking down your nose at someone that wears his hat different than you.Life is a hoot!blue
*The sad fact is that most of the diversity training delivered to industry has zero to do with celebrating diversity and everything do with avoiding a faux pas that will get companies in trouble or employees fired. And the boring, repetitive, somewhat vague theme of the training is that only negative rights have survived - you have the right to stop anything; but, anyone can trump your right to start.
*Please try to read what's written without making up a lot of stuff - what I said was that I lament those who are so weak as to follow the trend of wearing their caps oddly as they have clearly decided to opt out of trying to be the best they can.
*I wasn't even talking about your post, Shg, but if the shoe fits wear it. To answer your question, American is my only language.
*Why would you think that someone had "clearly decided to opt out of trying to be the best they can" because they dont wear their cap the way you'd prefer?JonC
*Okay, so what about my old man? He's pushin' 90 this year and he wears his ball cap slightly off center(about 45 degrees to the left, sometimes the right) I'm amazed he knows he has a hat on(sometimes he doesn't) Some days he could pass for an idiot, but he wasn't always that way. Your young..you age, you grow up, then you age some more and get young again. They call it senility.
*Nope, you ain't wrigglin' off the hook that easy, Phill. At least take ownership of what you say. You clearly said what YOU interpret someone wearing their hat means about them. I'm not gonna go back and cut and paste your words from a few posts ago in here. I guess you can read them yourself, just like everyone else did, something to the effect that they'd never be "leaders" or something as I recall. Unreal.
*>controlling and weirdHow dare you. I'm not controlling.SHG
*This is getting more and more complex. What if the woman is a ladylike woman, traditional in values. Should she take off her hat? Used to be rude, you know, immodest even. How about a turban? Is it polite to take off your turban inside? When my husband's having a bad hair day, I'd prefer he leave his hat on, thanks very much. =:-o Does that make me rude, or him?The utilities company told me to turn down the thermostat and wear a hat indoors. If I have to choose between wasteful and rude, which way should I go? It's a connumdrum, I tell ya. A problem, even. I wonder what Snagglepuss would do?I sure wish the Search would start working. I came to search on "mastic" today and now I'm philosophising about hats and offending stupid people. Hey, if I'm stupid and I wear a hat backwards indoors, will I offend myself?.....
*LOLROTF!!!
*Phill, I clearly read your statements. You call people idiots because they don't wear their hats the right way. If I was socializing with someone like you, and discovered that you formulated such derogatory opinions about people, based on the way, that they wore their hat, shirt, or because of the colors of the clothes, I would immediately formulate my own opinion of you. It would not be good and I would cease socializing with you as soon as possible and quite probably never socialize with you again.You are the type of people that I avoid. Life is too short to hang out with people that think like you. I'd rather hang out with real people, that have souls.blue
*Jim, the comments about leaders and such is so goofy that it speaks volumes about Phill and his misdirected enrgies. I feel sorry for his kids.blue
*From my fingertips to the server's ears - and Search is working once again. Thank you, Taunton!
*Lisa, I get that "hat-hair" look when I wear a hat. I don't like to take it off as I enter a building because I'll have to head for a mirror and fuss with the damn mess for so long and I'll still look like I'm having a bad hair day. The only fix is a buzz cut, which I have now (#1 faded). The customs today are a lot more lax. It doesn't make any sense to demand that you take your baseball cap off to walk into a mall. Hell, you'd probably get arrested for shoplifting on the way out when you try to put your hat back on.Don't worry about taking that hat off. I know Dear Abbey probably wants you to, but she's also desperatly trying to keep that big fat paycheck coming for advice that was fitting in a different millenium.blue
*Un-frikkin'-real, man.
*What about those wieners that don't shape the bill of the cap before they put it on....ARE YOU LISTENING DAD... you MUST bend it into a 1/2 circle or you look like a duffus. NOPE.. straight across.....IDIOTS.
*I did not call them "idiots". I'm sorry that you believe that's it's derogatory to feel sorry for people.
*Exactly, that I felt sorry for them because they'd given up trying to succeed.
*What, you don't even have the manners to take off your hat because of your extreme vanity ! You're ragging on me for feeling sorry for people who are going down the wrong path and all the while you're just covering up that your appearance is more important than being polite.
*It has nothing to do with my preference, it has to do with the obvious lack of character and self the wearer is displaying. I see someone that might be saved, you don't, end of story.
*Your idea of being polite and going down the wrong path Phill. Big world out there. What's inside or outside anymore? Malls, domed stadiums? You take off your hat when you go in the blimp hanger size big box? The Army told me not to take off my hat inside if I was armed. Hell, all Americans are packin', you know that Phil.JonC
*"obvious lack of character and self the wearer is displaying"JonC
*i straight across.....IDIOTSOK, I'll bite. ITA, so what's up w/caps that refuse to take shaping? Made by IDIOTS.BTW, don't know if it was because I didn't take my cap off, but after 3 rounds of cuts, I was let go on the 4th from a criminal jury selection. Whew!
*THANKS FOR MY CAMELSWell There it goes again!!!!!!! This friggin stupid ass loud mouth bitch was on FOX news abouut 30 mins ago raisin hell about ole St. Nick in a public parade. She claims Santa is a religious symbol since he symbolizes Christmas. Her logic????? Well the U.S. is mostly Christian, therefore we should be sensitive to those who aren't and do away with Santa. HELLO BITCH!!!!!!!!!! IT'S A CHRISTMAS PARADE YOU IMBISILLLLLL It's a wonder they can have a parade at all. I almost shot my T.V. with my Ruger 357 but opted for long draws on a cigarette outside in the cold. I can't believe it. I just can't believe it.
*Actually it's very ironic. Many fundamental Christians reject Santa Claus as a symbol of a secular version of Christmas, having nothing to do with the birth of Christ. Political correctness is reaching new levels of absurdity and illogic. What's next? Banning the dragon from the Chinese New Year parade? Banning Peeps from drug stores in April? Banning Leprechaun posters from bars in March? Gimmee a break.
*Phill, I feel sorry for you.blue
*Now you've escalated this to claim that I'm extremely vane? Phill, you are a piece of work. Your debating skill lie somewhere between a kindygardener and a pre-schooler. As soon as I develop Alzheimer's disease, I'll regress back to a better point in my life to continue this "debate". Thanks for the laff.blue
*Hey Blue. Walked into the legion the other night to play some bridge with my hat on !!! Bad idea as it meant disrespect to the vets. They have let me back in but like to remind me I am young and stupid. BTW Blue what do you do when you have to tell a newby to work on a wood plank staging who doesn't have 35 yrs. experience knowing a plank is not safe ?
*Phil, your words reflect your attitude that is proof of a profound lack of character. Give me a room full of guys with hats worn wrong any day, any time...blue
*Good for the vets. Let them set their own standards. Your welcome to wear your hat in my house. Teaching youngsters how to recognize good and bad situations is tough, but part of the job. For the first few months/years of my relationship with a young feller (or lady), I personally watch like an old mother hen. I don't let them build scaffolds unspervised. I don't let them make walk planks unsupervised. I keep my eyes open for those type planks that break, and theh drag the kids over and demonstrate how they break. Actually, slippery planks is probably just as dangerous. The nice clean lumber can get slick as snot. Old plywood manufactured planks can get worse. There's danger everywhere. Learn to manage it. If you don't want to be exposed to any dangerous condition, shoot yourself. Don't miss. You'll see a white light (I've been told).The most dangerous time during my worker's day is their commute to and from work. Maybe they should just stay home.blue
*Spittin' on the screen laughin' man, think I burst a few snot bubbles loose too. kcoyner, you're killing me, man. Keith, please don't tell us your Dad wears a straight brim. Very telling.This is like the old days. Where the hell's Chuck Crawford?
*"During the days of chivalry, knights often wore full armor in public, and usually when going upon private journeys. To open the vizor was a form of greeting which said, in effect: "I do not expect a sword thrust in the mouth from you." A knight removed his helmet before a friend as a token that he feared no blow, and always in the presence of a king, as a symbol that his life was the king's. Moderns remove the hat as a sign of respect in greeting a friend, always when speaking to or meeting a lady, a survival of the ancient custom of uncovering as a symbol of trust, or subjectivity to a higher authority."*So which is it, hat removers? When you remove your hat are saying that you trust the others present? Or that you subject yourself to their higher authority? Or that their life is more important than your own? Or that you are a slave to tradition and have no idea why you are removing your hat? Now I'm gonna have to start asking people who take off their hat "Hey, what do you mean by that?". That ought to offend somebody.*From another source that I'm too lazy to go back and look up.
*Oddly enough Lisa, I never think that I need to remove my hat when I meet and talk with someone. Instead, I almost always remove my sunglasses. I might leave them on, on a real bright day, but only because I know they can see my eyes anyways (no dark shades for me).So the customs require that I raise my visor, even though I don't wear one, but say nothing about my sunglasses. I guess I am vane, irreverent, and sometimes an idiot (I wear my brim up front, but sometimes tip it up excessively.). I'm fine with all that and I only want to be in the presence of like kind. I'm quite ok with all the self rightous others to only hang with themselves.blue
*HMMMM...... I just took my hat off and my head itches
*Well, I wear a pith helmet - looks the same frontwards or backwards - doesnt fit sideways - I usually remove it when I go indoors, but like Blue, I take off my glasses when I talk to people - eye contact is important - I've had a relatively long beard for 23 years - offends some people; the very ones I don't want to have anything to do with - some people consider me an idiot, but i like to agree with the ones who claim that I am too smart for my own good - I hire a fair amount of seasonal labor, don't care which way they wear their hat, if they are smart enough to do the job, they figure out the bill has a utility funtion - it's the ones that show up in black t-shirts I draw conclusions about - if they show up two days in a row (many don't) wearing a black T, I know they aren't smart enough to make it -
*Look, I realize how threatened you are by any opinion other than your own, even to the extent of risking your employees lives rather than make the jobsite safer and that's why you lash out at anyone who disagrees with you. It's really sad.
*Hello, you said you were - go back and re-read your append on why you're too embarrassed to take your hat off without combing your hair.
*Hey Pete and kcoyner... let it all out man... don't bottle it up - you need to tell us how you really feel. :)
*I don't mind offending stupid people. It is just human nature to NOT be happy with everything. Something, somewhere has got to bother us once in a while. What really does bother me is Stupid People. I'm not talking about unlearned, or uneducated people. I mean STUPID people. We use all kinds of colorful names to refer to them (dumbass, moron, few cards short of a full deck, etc...) but the end product is still the same. They just don't get it (and IT can be just about anything). They are fun to watch, though. You never know what STUPID thing they are going to do next.James DuHamel
*Hat - gun - two things at the same time - I can see why that might be a concern to the Army brass.
*Hey James,I'm stupid and sad that youse don't like me....
*I wear a hat when I sail, and I keep the bill forwards to keep the sun out of my eyes. However, if I am trimming a sail, the bill is in the way, and so I turn the cap around. Describe my goals and values in 100 words or less; evidently I've provided you with all the information you need!did
*I'm gonna start dropping my pants indoors, to show respect. You know, to demonstrate that my ass belongs to this company, or the mortgage company, or the grocery store...did
*Do you wear your cap side-ways with the bill over one ear while sitting at your desk in high-school just to be defiant ? Just to prove you're cool and you're "not go'na to learn nut'tin that you don't wan'na" ? That's what my point was, and remains. So when are you going to become a real sailor and spring for a Tilly hat ?
*LOL!Oh gosh, I hope they don't take it as an "I do not expect a sword thrust in the ______ from you". They might take you up on it. Yeow!
*Aw, jeepers, Phill, you didn't even try. C'mon, man, read me!Silly hats are for fogies. I gots me an Ultimate Hat, mostly for the story - elephant keeper regularly has his grabbed off of his head and eaten by his pachyderms. He just waits a few days, retrieves it, hoses it off, and puts it back on.didp.s. yeah, they're dorks, but they're in high school. Everyone's a dork in high school. Most people grow out of it, and I'm too busy to worry about the ones who don't.
*I believe that may be a b Tilleyhat. At least that's one of their hat stories (and they have a hat that went through an elephant on display in their flagship store). I bought my first hat from him when he used to sell them part-time out of his basement and only advertised in sailing magazines; now they're international.http://www.tilley.com/index1.asp
*I've met a lot of stupid people that I like.blue
*Amen to that Did.blue
*Why on earth would YOU be a stupid person?Smart people sometimes do stupid things. That ain't the same as Stupid people. Stupid people are ALWAYS stupid. Stupid people with a good heart make up for all of it though.James DuHamel
*I've met a lot of people who think I'm stupid but like me anyway.
*Funny Jeff!
*ROFL!!
*I've met a lot of people and I'm still stupid.
*How does a stupid person know if they are offended?should I be? :-)
*I can't believe I just read this whole thread. You all should be offended. <>BTW, you should wear your hat any way that you choose. But if you're my kid, that's bill forward unless there's a functional reason to do otherwise, and never after you cross the threshold. What you wear and when you wear it does send a message.As to diversity and offending anyone, I never could understand why a person might perceive Rodney King's words as other than profound: "Why can't we all just get along?"Andy (on my lunch hour, so the opinions expressed here are mine, and not neccessarily those of the management)
*Just in case there's anyone over here who hasn't seen this yet. the following tale should strike a chord with many of you: chiqui new orleans "The Holiday Party" 12/5/01 11:42pmP.S. Blue, after reading this whole thread I've got to say hats off to you ;-)
*Do you find offensive people stupid, or stupid people offensive ?
*Joe, I'm afraid to go over to AJ's place. he'd have me hang gliding, skiing or doing tennis courts.blue
*I find Stupid people offensive.Of course, my definition of Stupid people is different than most of your's.Ignorant people make mistakes cause they don't know any better. They're not Stupid, just ignorant. Their mistakes usually cost them something (embarrassment, lost money, lost time, etc...), but leave everyone else simply as observers.Intelligent people make mistakes sometimes. This does not make them Stupid. It makes them human. They too only affect themselves in most cases.Stupid people make mistakes on a consistent basis simply because they are only interested in themselves. They are late for work, so they run all the red lights. They know it is dangerous, but are willing to take the chance thinking that it nothing can happen to them. They jeopardize others as well as themselves. They skirt around safety devices constantly because it is too much trouble to use them correctly. Again, they jeopardize others as well as themselves. The list goes on and on. In other words, Stupid people do really stupid things that can, and in most cases do, cause harm to others simply because they are too stupid to care, or realize that they are not the center of the universe. Take the picture of the guy that loaded all the building material on the roof of his small car. I assume that the woman in the car is his wife. He put her life in jeopardy because he was stupid enough to believe that he could actually carry that much weight on the roof of the car. He also endangered everyone else on the road because when the shoicks came up through the floorboard, he had to have lost most of the control over the steering. The guy at the gas pumps, filling up his vehicle with a lit cigarette hanging out of his mouth is another example of a stupid person. He knows it is dangerous, but just doesn't care. Just an opinion...James DuHamel
*No James, those are selfish people, which is a far larger category than plain old studid people. The credo is "because it's good for me!" And the minor fact that they endanger (if not just annoy) the rest of us doesn't even enter their minds. Of course, it is worse when stupid people are also selfish people, which is a lethal combination. I often wonder of these people how they manage to avoid the impact of natural selection.SHG
*i impact of natural selection ?b they are the impact of natural selection !
*now you're scaring me Phill
*I`ve heard it said that natural selection does not exist anymore because of the impact of modern medicine.
*Good point. Imagine the impact of genetic selection of kids! Ugh. Imagine the pressure that'll be placed on them by parents who believed they gave them every genetic advantage.
*There was a semi-recent case in NJ about a kid that wore a Jeff Foxworthy t-shirt to school with the word "Redneck" prominently display on it. He was sent home by the principal because he was told that his shirt would be disruptive due to the fact that they had had some supposedly racial violence in the school system recently, and he would just be aggravating the situation with his shirt.Ths story got picked up by John Boy and Billy (syndicated radio show from NC, if you don't already know). One of the guys on the show said, "Let me get this straight; you can go to school with your shoes untied, with your pants down around your ass and showing about six inches of your underwear, with your hair died flourescent green or blue, and enough piercings so that it looks like you fell face-first into a tackle box, but you can't wear a shirt that says "redneck!"
*This thread has been one of the most entertaining and revealing I have ever read here. I almost wish that a I was in here from it's beginning. Just finished reading it entirely. As a regular wearer of headgear of most any kind, those postings were most entertaining but, will only say that I remove hats whenever I enter a building or introduced to a lady. Regardless of my sensitivity to light (I even wear shades on cloudy days) they arei always removed when engaged in conversation.Having said that, I only wish to inject my thoughts, in regard to ignorant versus stupid. For Giles' sake, I will try to be as clear as possible. My dictionary defines ignorant as: "1. Lacking knowledge, learning, or information. 2. uninformed; unaware. 3. showing lack of knowledge." It defines stupid as: "1. Lacking or not showing ordinary activity and keenness of mind. 2. tediously uninteresting." I believe that while the definition of ignorant is very clear, the definition of stupid is ambiguous because of the "or" in it's definition. Hence, the varying opinons. The real question is can a person really be ignoranti and stupid? I personally believe that a person can be both. Since it is redundant to use two adjectives in the description of a person, I use the adjective "asshole" to describe just such a person. The degree to which a person is an "asshole" depends upon the completeness of how the two definitions fit in that persons' "description". For example; a "flaming asshole" would be the highest degree, and for me at least, the most intolerable. A flaming asshole meets the entire definition of ignorant andi not showing ordinary activity and keenness of mind portion of the definition of stupid. The fine line here is that by definition one who is ignorant can rectify that deficiency whereas the implication, by definition, is that one who is stupid cannot rectify his or hers situation as a result of the i Lacking....ordinary activity and keenness of mindambiguity.The best way for one to understand this is to simply read a few of the many postings from Phill Giles, since he would be the benchmark, so to speak, of what a flaming asshole is since change is possible but, highly improbable; there is no will and/or courage to do so.Me? I'm just a mere asshole because I know better to get involved like this. But, like kycoyner, I don't give a flying f**k what others think of me. Especially those who have been sucking on my country's hind tit since the American Revolution yet still insult my countrymen, complain about about the scraps we give them, and are jealous of our greatness and character.I live in the greatest nation on earth, what could be better? Ehh? Dano
*Dano,Way to go. I didn't know you were Canadian. Congratulations for coming out of your closet.Gabe
*ROFL! Good one Gabe.
*Danford,Reading your post just reminded me of another kind of asshole. Candidate Bush mistakingly informed the whole world that some reporter was a "Major League Asshole". I thought it was one of the great statements of the whole campaign and a new asshole adjective for me. I guess it would fit right up there with "flaming asshole".kP.S. I gotta figure out how to edit my spell checker to include asshole now.
*Since we're offending people...A train hits a bus load of nuns and they all perish. They are all in heaven trying to enter the pearly gates past St. Peter. He asks the first nun, “Sister Karen, have you ever had any contact with a penis?” The nun giggles and shyly replies, “Well once I touched the head of one with the tip of my finger.” St. Peter says, “OK, dip the tip of your finger in the holy water and pass through the gate.” St. Peter asks the next nun the same question, “Sister Elizabeth have you ever had any contact with a penis?” The nun is a little reluctant but replies “Well once I fondled and stroked one.” St. Peter says “OK, dip your whole hand in the holy water and pass through the gate.” All of a sudden, there is a lot of commotion in the line of nuns, one nun is pushing her way to the front of the line. When she reaches the front of the line St. Peter says “Sister, Sister what seems to be the rush?!” The nun replies, “If I’m going to have to gargle that holy water, I want to go before Sister Mary sticks her ass in it!”
*i I use the adjective "asshole" to describe just such a personLOL! BTW, it's a noun :-)
*I've met a lot of stupid people that I like also. You can always count on them to be a constant source of non-stop entertainment.
*ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*Tara, that' how I look at it. Stupid people do some funny things. As long as they don't actually harm anyone, I don't mind being around them. Sometimes they just offend others with their boorish behavior, or drive their cars into the ditch, or whatever. I can live with all that.blue
*ALthough, I'd much rather have several stupid people around than one beligerant ass anyday.
*Yeah, then you can control them.........I find the difference you all see between ingnorant and stupid funny......Haven't been out much, have you?
*Just wanyed to bring it to the top.
*I thought a flaming asshole was what happened after too much Mexican food...
*two things,yall really have to leave the hat thing alone-have made a couple dollars printing instruction labels for them- this end front.also what have yall got against the horse?
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I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm sick and tired of everything offending somebody. Someone around my home here is complaining about kids wearing ball caps to school. It offends this one or that one. Some guy said he was offended by grown men wearing diapers on their heads. He wondered if a kid could wear a rag around his head to school because it's part of his religeon. I heard Santa Clause was kicked out of a Christmas Parade somewhere because it offended someone. Here's what I'm saying to anyone who takes offense around me. F#$% you. Now does that offend you? I'm about sick of it.