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Oil Base Paint

borgward | Posted in General Discussion on August 5, 2010 10:52am

What to use instead of high gloss oil base paint.

Do not like Acrylic latex paints on interior trim and cabinets as it is hard to clean and gets grungy.

Are there any additives to harden up the acrylic latex paints. Flotrol works well, but not enought to make it perform like oil base paint.

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  1. DonCanDo | Aug 05, 2010 08:23pm | #1

    Floetrol increases working time (and also increases the chance of sagging) and I've used it on very warm/dry days, but I haven't found it to make any difference in terms of the ultimate hardness or durability of acrylic paints.  I don't know of any such product that does.

    I am not a big fan of oil-based paints, but they still have their purpose such as banisters, desk tops, cabinets, etc.  Basically any surface that will see a lot of touching.  I don't think oil-based paints are necessary on trim, but there still seems to be a lot of painters who swear they can see a clear difference.

  2. borgward | Jan 02, 2011 06:30pm | #2

    re paint

    How to match Behr High Gloss oil based paint color to oil based floor paint, or Rustoleum oil based paint?

    What high end manufacturors are producing Oil based paint.  Any in Canada?

    Are there any other kinds of paint that will not get grungy from being in a kitchen or anywhere the surface gets touched?

    I am considering automotive paints, as they hold up very well and stay very glossy over the years.

    Anybody have a contact for Behr to complain about how grungy their High Gloss acrylic latex gets.

    1. Scott | Jan 02, 2011 11:56pm | #3

      I wouldn't rule out today's high quality water based paints. In fact, in many cases the pendulum has swung the other way IMO. The cheap low-end paints are now oil-solvent based (with some exceptions).

      In Canada, try something like the General Paint HP2000, or any other manufacturer's high end product. It's a competitive market, and you get what you pay for.

      Of course, don't forget that 75% of successful painting is in the prep work. Scrape, level, clean and dry.

      BTW...I haven't had much success with anything made by Behr....I buy plenty of stuff from Big Box stores, but paint, stain and varnish aren't included. For some reason they've missed the mark in this category.

    2. Piffin | Jan 04, 2011 07:45pm | #7

      Benjamin Moore, Satin Impervo. You can get it in oil or latex. I am VERY impressed with the new latex formula

  3. Yersmay1 | Jan 03, 2011 09:37am | #4

    In my opinion, paint of any type isn't the most robust material to use on kitchen cabinets, especially if you're worried about grime.  A pigmented lacquer or conversion varnish would be a better choice.  There are waterbourne types that can be sprayed or sometimes even brushed without a lot of experience.  There are many brands... I like products from Target Coatings. 

  4. junkhound | Jan 03, 2011 09:52am | #5

    1st, IMO, painted interior living space woodwork, especially cabinets, just screams 'cheap' to me. Pre-1990 mix Watco is my finish of choice, but just about running out of my stash.(1)

    that out of the way, I'd use plastic laminate for ease of cleaning vs. paint.

    I do have some painted cabinets, but those are in the barn or sheds, but painted is how I got them from a garage sale 'free pile'

    (1) did i read someplace that miniwax did change watco back to the original formula??

  5. frost | Jan 03, 2011 12:16pm | #6

    Opinions are great,but just that.......one's opinion.  I've done  a lot of woodworking and have gravitated to painted furniture and cabinetry more and more.  Not solely, but a fair proportion, and they definetly are not "cheap". My paint of choice for cabinetry is Benjamin Moore Satin Impervo, an oil based product.  It holds up better then ordinary lacquer and is comparable to the catylyzed conversion varnishes and, unlike the catylized finishes, it can be easily touched up when needed. I have sprayed my share of conversion varnish as I once was a full time cabinetmaker, so I can compare based on experience.  It is a fantastic product, can be sprayed or brushed with good results.  We can still buy it here in Vermont, I know its not available in some states  Their latex versions are also wonderful,although I prefer to use them on trim rather then cabinets.  Some people do use latex on cabinets though with decent results imho.  Some put a topcoat of clear water based poly over the top, but that seems problematic to me for a few reasons, but I've yet to do this.

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