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   JDRHI | Apr 25, 2002 03:48am | #1

   Walt,

    I`m not a painter by trade, but I have come to the conclusion that oil paint touch ups are going to flash. I may be wrong, and if I am, I look forward to the advice that your post will bring. When doing a job that will require oil paint touch up in areas on a wall, I automatically charge to paint entire wall, and possibly entire room.

   J. D. Reynolds

   Home Improvements

   "DO IT RIGHT, DO IT ONCE"

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   Walt_Boston | Apr 29, 2002 07:48pm | #2

   thanks for the response.  It looks like we are in the same boat.  I continue to think that there must be an answer to this delema.  I'll bet there is some 80 year old painter out there that would laugh at the question because it is so simple.

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   Qtrmeg | Apr 29, 2002 08:36pm | #3

   Walt, you didn't say you wanted advice from an 80 yo painter, I'll ask my dad.

   But, inside or outside? What is the coating system? New or old work? Products used? Applied how? Applied over what ? How much time between painting and touch up? Touched up by what applicator? Was said applicator different from original? Were the temps and other conditions similar for the original application and t-up?

   T-ups almost always show, more so when you have open areas with mucho light. Flats t-up better than any gloss, rollers can feather the t-up out to blend it in best on flat areas. Etc, etc...

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   Walt_Boston | Apr 29, 2002 11:39pm | #4

   Thanks for the reply.  These are inside walls. They were primed with an oil based primer and painted with oil based paint (mostly sherman williams).  The walls are new (though they are in a 100 yr old place).  The walls are plaster over blueboard and/or 3 coat plaster over wire mesh (on some curves).  They were painted with rollers and cut in with brushes.  We have attempted to touch up with rollers and brushes...both seem to flash mightily.

   The heat was on in the house when the walls were painted and it is still on now....the temp stays pretty constant around 65 degrees (around 70 in the bedrooms). 

   As for your Dad...the old guys know it all...I'll bet you've learned a ton from him if he is an 80 yr old painter.  My Dad has solved every plumbing problem I have ever come up with (though he is not yet near the 80 mark).

   Any thoughts would be appreciated. 

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   Qtrmeg | Apr 30, 2002 01:59am | #5

   Plaster cure time before painting may cause grief, and you didn't mention the gloss, or specific product. I'm not up to speed on what SW has for product, but I know brushes will not work in the middle of a wall. You can try rolling out to nothing, get dry and keep it even, blend it out so the flash is minimal. Touch up the off walls, and plan to roll the money walls. It will all blend after a few months, but I'll run this by the geezer. I'll see him tomorrow and get back to you.

   And ya, he taught me a few things, but we don't have the space to go into that here.

   I

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   Walt_Boston | May 02, 2002 04:52pm | #6

   Any secrets reveiled by the old guy?...is he talking?...liquor him up if necessary!

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   Qtrmeg | May 02, 2002 06:44pm | #7

   Gawd, if I got him liquored up he would still be talking.

   Might be an issue with the coating if you didn’t wait 30 days to paint, but if you didn’t you will have bigger problems than the paint flashing.

   Anyhow, assuming you are solidly coated, there might be a chance that your touch-up paint is thicker than what was originally used. You might have thinned the wall paint to paint, and t-up’d with straight, or the paint sitting in a partial can thickened up. He did say roll the touch up in the field, feather out dry. Also said that any flash is likely to go away after some time if you blend the t-up in well. Some walls along heavy traffic, (like stairways, etc.), most likely will need to be painted, and to plan on it, but you can paint the lower parts and feather a line horizontally. 

   He went on about other things, like walking to work with ladders on his back when he couldn’t use the horse, but I’ll spare you all of that.