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Onix Tubing for radiant heat

workman67 | Posted in Energy, Heating & Insulation on March 1, 2013 10:57am

I am renovating a commercial office for a friend and am thinking of having a radiant heating system(first for me). Is there a concern for how fast this heat works if the floor has 2 inches of subfloor? This is a very old building that had full 1″ planking and we added 3/4″ to most of it. In some spots, even added more to be able to level the place.

We may have carpet in one area for the reception, and maybe some porcelain tile in the rest of the office. Total SF is 1000. I am just not sure it this type of system is going to heat this office quickly or if we should just install a Mitsubishi hot air system and call it a day??  I have priced the material but am not sure how much work it is to install this pipe? Plus, I would love to be able to extend a loop or two in the basement walls in order to be able to have some temperature where we store office material and have a small work shop.

Any pros have any advise that i should research in order to spend wisely?? I just dont want to go with baseboard heaters that get banged up, not to mention the loss of wall space everywhere!

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    Perry525 | Mar 06, 2013 07:39am | #1

    Radiant hot water is good for out of sight heating

    especially where the rooms are wide with high

    ceilings.

    Most people lay 4 inch thick concrete with the

    pex pipe held in place tied to the reinforcing

    mesh.

    There is another way where the pipe is laid in the

    top of sheets of polystyrene.

    The concrete method is slow to warm and very

    slow to cool, if you have a building with large

    windows facing south, the sun can quickly make it

    impossible to stay in the room as it is so hot.

    The light weight system, where the pex is laid in

    the top of polystyrene sheet with t&;g OSB laid

    directly on top is quicker to warm and cool.

    As both radiation and conduction both travel

    through 360 degrees half your heat input goes

    downwards, you need at least 4 inches of

    polystyrene insulation below the pipes to keep the

    heat in the rooms.

    I find that the best way to deal with the slow heat

    up, is to have the heating on 24/365. The level of

    heat is very low, it is silent in operation and after

    a short while you completely forget it there.

    One advantage, is that the floor area is usually

    divided into heating areas, this means you can

    have more heat in front of large windows and low

    or no heat further away.

    The concrete based system works well with clay

    or porcelain tiles.

    Both systems are not so good with thick underlay

    and thick carpet if the users are going to turn the

    heating off - makes heating up even slower, but

    its good once warm.

    UFH is good for basements, make sure you

    have a thermostat and motorized valve in every

    area to control the heat, if the basement is damp

    you can add a humidistat to the control, this will

    raise the temperature and lower the humidity

    when required.

    I find it best to raise the door frames as a well

    installed, insulated  system is raising the floor 5 or

    more inches.

    A radiant system is easier to live with and is cheaper

    to run than warm air.

    1. DanH | Mar 06, 2013 07:53am | #2

      I'm guessing you posted that from your pad??

    2. calvin | Mar 06, 2013 09:00am | #3

      Perry

      I find that the best way to deal with the slow heat

      up, is to have the heating on 24/365. The level of

      heat is very low, it is silent in operation and after

      a short while you completely forget it there.

      One advantage, is that the floor area is usually

      divided into heating areas, this means you can

      have more heat in front of large windows and low

      or no heat further away.

      You write quite a bit about radiant heat and the use and benefits of foam.  What's your background with these?

      thanks.

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