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Other uses for Roofing Nail Guns

bridgetonjim | Posted in Construction Techniques on February 10, 2003 02:09am

Hello all,

I’m interested in knowing if you can use a roofing nail gun to hang dry wall. I was recently redoing a small bathroom and noticed what looked like roofing nails holding the drywall up. I’m looking for the best way to hang the dry wall and this would really help if it works, one hand to hold and bang with the gun. Please let me know any rules to follow and what depth the nail should be driven, What nail size etc.

Thank you in advance.

Sincerely

Jim of Bridgeton

 

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  1. MikeSmith | Feb 10, 2003 02:45am | #1

    jim, is this a test ?

    Mike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore
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      RichBeckman | Feb 10, 2003 05:17am | #6

      Does this mean I can put roof shingles on with drywall screws???

      Rich Beckman

      Another day, another tool.

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    BarryE | Feb 10, 2003 02:48am | #2

    believe it or not, this is one of the applications that drywall screws are good for.

    Unless you like callbacks, I would put the nailgun down.

    And then there's that whole glue/ no glue issue


    View Image

    Barry E
  3. geob21 | Feb 10, 2003 02:55am | #3

    Shooting roofers into your noggin is a modern day remedy for headaches. It's sure quicker then leeches. But if you shoot too many  we won't have threads like this to respond to.

    Is that a good or bad thing?

  4. rez | Feb 10, 2003 03:51am | #4

    Jim- Have you tried it?

    Half of good living is staying out of bad situations.

    The other...proper application of risk.

     

     

    1. MikeSmith | Feb 10, 2003 04:45am | #5

      hah, hah, hah.... u guys yust quack me upMike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore

  5. Piffin | Feb 10, 2003 06:00am | #7

    Wh

    Wha

    Wait a minite.

    Gotta catch ma breath.

    Whew!

    Now that I'm done squealing with delight...

    I guess you got a hint by now. The rules are, "Don't ever hang SR with anything other than SR nails or SR screws"

    Hint, it's not even a good idea to mention using roofers for it.

    And from a gun, no less....

    LOL

    .

    Excellence is its own reward!

    1. BKCBUILDER | Feb 10, 2003 03:06pm | #11

      Oh come on! You have to be conscious to the fact that if we do not plant for the future, that we will have nothing to chew in the future. So if you see a possible future horror story, you must nurture it along, so it blossoms and grows, to become a full blown cluster f--- for some builder or remodeler down the road!

       With that being said , it is perfectly fine to hang drywall with a roofing gun, just set the nails slightly below the surface(just break the paper) and be sure to use 2" nails. Hot melt glue works better than drywall glue also. Have fun.

      1. Piffin | Feb 10, 2003 03:34pm | #13

        If you do it that way, Can it be flamed????????.

        Excellence is its own reward!

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        SteveInCleveland | Feb 10, 2003 09:47pm | #19

        Hey, we use roofing nails for everything. Shoot away!

        signed,

          THE CREW AT "TRADING SPACES"

        1. Piffin | Feb 10, 2003 09:54pm | #20

          So you are the one who hung those cabinets!

          ;).

          Excellence is its own reward!

          1. AlanRoberson | Feb 10, 2003 09:58pm | #21

            Only an amature would use a roofing gun. Use a framer - preferably full-head.

            Edited 2/10/2003 1:58:56 PM ET by ALANROBERSON

        2. CAGIV | Feb 10, 2003 10:04pm | #22

          signed,

            THE CREW AT "TRADING SPACES"

          I saw an episode the other night where they were hanging a tin cieling with a porter cable finish gunView Image

          1. Piffin | Feb 10, 2003 10:20pm | #23

            I think that's a good idea. Those portable cables help hold the tins straight for longer.

            BTW, what's the difference between a Finnish gun and a Swedish one?

            Finns are quieter..

            Excellence is its own reward!

          2. CAGIV | Feb 10, 2003 10:25pm | #24

            LOL, Hold the tin up straight lmao, The host says I think it looks good, I'm thinking are you blind, there are sags at the edges anyway

            Difference between a Finnish gun and Swedish gun

            Finnish lacks the supple curves and softness of the Swedish :)

            Every saturday my G/F makes me watch it, I live a tortured life, oh and she says when we have our own house we are going to have trading spaces come and do a make over. 

            I'll be at the front door with my shotgun when the truck pulls upView Image

          3. jsvenson | Feb 11, 2003 04:41am | #29

            Should I be offended by your observation? (Just want to know so, I don't look like a fool if I lash back! lol)

            John Svenson, Builder, Remodeler, NE Ohio (Formerly posted as JRS)

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            Luka | Feb 11, 2003 04:57am | #30

            I have an old roofing gun that i keep right next to my hat.

            You see, my hat is just a tad bit small. But that roofer takes care of that in a snap.

            Never lose my hat in a windstorm anymore...

            Quittin' Time

          5. Piffin | Feb 11, 2003 05:50am | #32

            Play on words only. No racial slurs intended, but hey, it's a free country. If you want to get offended, don't let me stop you. LOL After all, it's silly season!

            ;).

            Excellence is its own reward!

        3. BKCBUILDER | Feb 10, 2003 11:06pm | #25

           I remember the episode of Hometime when Dean and one of the earlier girls actually used that drywall nail gun. They used it on a new drywall made from recycled newsprint that was real hard. I wonder how many suckers they got to try that stuff. Neither of which is still around I'm sure..........

          1. PhillGiles | Feb 10, 2003 11:13pm | #26

            Never used an ET&F gun to put up drywall ?

            .

            Phill Giles

            The Unionville Woodwright

            Unionville, Ontario

            Edited 2/10/2003 3:17:00 PM ET by Phill Giles

          2. BKCBUILDER | Feb 10, 2003 11:41pm | #27

            Nope, don't even know what it is.

          3. PhillGiles | Feb 11, 2003 01:06am | #28

            They make industrial nail guns, like the kind you use to nail drywall to steel studs - I'm told they'll work on wooden studs too..

            Phill Giles

            The Unionville Woodwright

            Unionville, Ontario

      3. skipj | Feb 11, 2003 05:27am | #31

        Keith,

        As much as I am in favor of brevity in posts, and therefore am usually OK with abbreviations, some things are sacred.

        The term is "five way Mongolian cluster-f***."

        Thanking you in advance.

        skipj

        1. Piffin | Feb 11, 2003 05:53am | #33

          but cluster nailing is not an approved method. It just makes a big hole and then the material won't stay tight to the stud..

          Excellence is its own reward!

  6. rez | Feb 10, 2003 06:18am | #8

    Hiya Jim- Saw in your profile that this is your 8th post here on Breaktime and you started on Christmas day. Was that a new computer you got for Christmas or had you been lurking here for a while?

    Just wanted to say we hope to hear more from you and 'Welcome to Breaktime'.

    Half of good living is staying out of bad situations.

    The other...proper application of risk.

     

     



    Edited 2/9/2003 10:19:03 PM ET by rez

    1. MikeSmith | Feb 10, 2003 06:46am | #9

      jim, watch out for rez... he just wants you to buy us all a round..

       ahhhh... ok .. i'll have a ballantine...

       sure go ahead with the roofin gun.. but not if you want to finish the drywallMike Smith Rhode Island : Design / Build / Repair / Restore

      1. rez | Feb 10, 2003 06:51am | #10

        Shoot Mike, I kinda figured he'd be good for a couple rounds anyhow. I'll take a dark ale or maybe a Bailey's Cream.Half of good living is staying out of bad situations.

        The other...proper application of risk.

         

         

  7. Mooney | Feb 10, 2003 03:34pm | #12

    Some 15 yrs ago Durafast made a drywall nailer .  It shot ring shank drywall nails . I bought one and paid 500.00 dollars for it . It had one of the first adjustments for a nailer . It was crude at best . They gave me several  boxes of nails to "stay with it " and give it a chance . Im hoping I was one of the few fools they had to lay money down that was earned hand nailing drywall. I did put up fire walls with it , until another fool stole it. I always wondered what he thought  about it .

    Seemed it could never be set to indent the drywall with out breaking paper . Even then it left high nails over knots and other nails. Sometimes when it missed it would leave a pretty 1/4 in hole in the wall. Of course anytime nails tear paper you will have loose drywall. So no, you cant use a roofing nailer for drywall.

    Tim Mooney

  8. andybuildz | Feb 10, 2003 04:09pm | #14

    jim

       Funny you should mention that. Several years ago I gutted two rooms in two houses that were on the same block. Apparently by the same builder and found half of the walls were rocked with roofers.....As far as I noticed, there were no pops in the wall. I found that kinda interesting.

     Wouldnt recommend it but thats something I noticed in my many redos.

    Be nailed be screwed

                       Namaste

                                  Andy

    "Attachment is the strongest block to realization"
    http://CLIFFORDRENOVATIONS.COM

    1. bridgetonjim | Feb 10, 2003 04:58pm | #15

      Thanks Andy,

      This is exactly what I found in this house. No pop outs nice clean walls with 1.5" dry wall nails that look like roofing nails. But u have all made it clear I need to BBBBBBBBBBuy a Dry wall screw gun its that spending Money thing i try to avoid. Sorry for the not well thoughtout question. Next time I'll think it over in my head before I run with it.

      Bridgeton Jim

      1. FastEddie1 | Feb 10, 2003 07:13pm | #16

        You don't have to buy a sprecial screw gun, although they sure are nice if you do a lot of hanging.  If all you plan to do is work on your own house, or small jobs, just learn how to sink the screws with a regular variable speed drill.  I have successfully (with some effort and learning curve) used my cordless DeWalt drill, my electric Milwaukee, and my cordless makita impact driver.  If you want to spend money, buy the Makita corldess impact driver, it will be usefull for many, many more things.  A true sheetrock screwgun has limited other uses.

        Do a search on this site for the cordelss impact driver...I don't think anyone who has bought it has had any regrets.

         

        Do it right, or do it twice.

        Edited 2/10/2003 11:15:16 AM ET by ELCID72

      2. CAGIV | Feb 10, 2003 09:39pm | #17

        You can also buy a speacial bit that goes in your cordless drill for setting the screw in drywall, about a buck- fifty or so,   It has a philips bit inside and a circular disk around the bit that makes a depression in paper, best I can describe it, ask the guy where you buy your rock and he should be able to tell you.View Image

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        IMERC | Feb 10, 2003 09:43pm | #18

        There is a drywall screw bit holder with a depth control collar already on it. Works well. Local yard has them for .69$. Magnetic too. Fits anything with a chuck or most 1/4" bit holders. Slick little thing. HD has them for just short of 2$.

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