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   IMERC | Dec 19, 2007 08:58am | #1

   in side of the cabinate...

    

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   PatchogPhil | Dec 19, 2007 09:10am | #2

   Is there a reason/rule why one way but not the other?

     

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   IMERC | Dec 19, 2007 09:28am | #3

   mount it in the wall and you cut out the back of the cab....

   mount it inside of the cab abn there's less destruction...

   cleaner install...

   so there's more to chose from yet...

   surface mount the recpt...

   or flush mount it... this way takes an old work box...

   I think the old work box looks more professional... 

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   PatchogPhil | Dec 19, 2007 09:32am | #4

   If it is surface mounted then a "handy box" looks best.  Smooth/rounded corners.

   I wonder what code says?  I used to have a NEC link but I cannot find it,  musta been on my puter that died.  Maybe someone here knows what code rule covers this? 

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   IMERC | Dec 19, 2007 09:38am | #5

   I believe you'll find either wat ia acceptical as long as the wire is mechanically protected... 

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   PatchogPhil | Dec 19, 2007 09:43am | #6

   Thanks.

     

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   IMERC | Dec 19, 2007 09:46am | #7

   no problem.. 

   Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

   WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

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   Matt | Dec 19, 2007 03:19pm | #8

   The receptacle plate ends up being flush with the inside of the back of the cabinet.  This can be accomplished 1 of 2 ways:

   1) mount the box in the wall prior to drywall with about a 3/4" reveal rather than the standard 1/2" reveal.   It will probably still need a fire ring, or

   2) just leave the wire hanging out of the drywall, then when the cabinet guys mount the cabinet they make a hole and pull the wire through, and then the electricians install a pop-in box when they do their trim-out. 

   #1 is the preferred method.

   I've never seen one surface mounted inside the cabinet.  To me, it would look like an after thought.

   Be careful when you drill the hole through the cabinet for the microwave plug and cord.  It takes a little effort to end up with a neat hole.

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   calvin | Dec 19, 2007 03:30pm | #9

   Be careful in the layout of all the holes in the bottom of the cabinet.  With the floppy template or semi accurate measurements, it oftentimes seems like something gets "off".

   I like to mount the box higher up in the cabinet.  Easier to coil up the cord so you might be able to put something in the cab. when done.    If surface mounting-definitely mount it up higher, so you can get the cord in when hanging.A Great Place for Information, Comraderie, and a Sucker Punch.

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   JTC1 | Dec 19, 2007 04:23pm | #10

   I prefer Matt's method #2 - with a slight modification:

   >> 2) just leave the wire hanging out of the drywall, then when the cabinet guys mount the cabinet they make a hole and pull the wire through, and then the electricians install a pop-in box when they do their trim-out. <<

   I leave a loop of several feet inside of the wall, with a tail hanging out of the wall.  That way when I hang the cabinet, I don't have to be very precise about cutting the opening for the box - just bore a 1" hole and thread the wire to the inside of the cabinet.

   Once all of the cabinets are hung and electrical trim is underway, I can layout the hole for the box and cut it precisely with a jig saw using a "cut on the downstroke" blade for a clean cut through the cabinet back.

   Once the hole is cut, I pull some of my wall loop into the cabinet and trim off any cable which may have been nicked by the cutting operations.

   I probably prefer this method because usually I am both the cabinet installer and the electrician. I was also the drywaller, so I paid attention and made sure the wire was coming out of the wall at the right place.

   I position the cable / box so I have at least 6" from the cabinet bottom to the box - makes cutting the box hole and plugging in the microwave easier.  Lateral placement can also be tricky due to exhaust ductwork - best to know all the dimensions before you decide on a spot.

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   sledgehammer | Dec 19, 2007 10:48pm | #11

   I leave a long loop of wire  sticking out under the cabinet. The mounting plate for the micro will cover the hole when installed. Then finish it with a  Wire mold surface mount box inside the cabinet where ever I need it by just drilling a 3/4" hole and monting the outlet.