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   quicksilver | Jul 03, 2005 07:43am | #1

   Are you saying you have to pull it out like a drawer for it to come into place and turn on. I've never seen one. I think that it would be easiest to use the same exhaust duct, so an overhead mounted hood would be your best bet. Why don't you get one that matches your new oven. The oven should have a hood option.

   Wait you're talking solely oven here right, no cooktop. In that case I'm not sure. I would ask the stove manufacturer if they recommend an exhaust with their product.

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   Rachel | Jul 04, 2005 08:21pm | #3

   Thanks for the reply. 

   Correct, oven only.  I've got a separate hood for the cooktop.  The installation guide for the new ovens does not include any information on hood.  The hood cover tilts out at a 45 degree angle and in so doing turns on the fan.  I believe it is designed to draw fresh air up across the front of the ovens in order to pull any smoke and odors out of air. 

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   piko | Jul 03, 2005 08:04am | #2

   I know the device you mean. If you are buying new, why don't you look for downdraft models, as it looks like you really don't want a hood. Or perhaps go with some other type. I've just installed one that is built into a fake cabinet/hood (Can't remember it's make!), and previously a commercial model that had 2 huge fans - sucked the water right out of the sink!.

   Check onto Sears or equiv to find the style you want, or maybe Epinions.

   If, as I interpret your post, you are only getting ovens then you probably don't need a hood at all (put myself on the line, here)

   cheers

   ***I'm a contractor - but I'm trying to go straight!***

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   Rachel | Jul 04, 2005 08:26pm | #4

   As you may have seen in my response to quicksilver, I'm talking oven only and the installation guide for the new ovens does not include any discussion of an oven hood.  If I can go without, I'm willing.  No room to run duct for downdraft - the kitchen is tight. 

   I'm not installing myself - a contractor arranged by the appliance place will be doing the installation.  I want to be prepared for the discussion.  In addition, I'm concerned that the current placement of the fan may make the existing opening too large for the new ovens - I"m hoping that is not the case because it will just add to the scope-creep on this appliance replacement project (cost has already doubled - much to my husband's chagrin).  I don't have a problem leaving the existing hood in because it can just sit there unused.  I take it some the newer ovens don't require a hood? 

   Edited 7/4/2005 1:34 pm ET by Rachel

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   VaTom | Jul 04, 2005 09:30pm | #5

   Any hood over wall ovens is new to me.  Never seen one.  Ventilation for the ovens can be a big deal however. 

   Once had an imported pair in an upscale kitchen that were frequently burning out thermostats.  The importer knew immediately what was wrong, no ventilation.  Wasn't my installation, only my fix.  The manual explained what was required, which wasn't acceptable to the HO.  I stocked up on thermostats, only available from the importer.  Then they fired the cook, didn't replace her, and mostly quit using the ovens.

   Be careful about replacement size.  Can be a very big (expensive) deal.  That's the reason the imported ovens weren't replaced.  They all list the opening required.PAHS Designer/Builder- Bury it!

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   rangersteve | Jul 05, 2005 04:07am | #6

   I put in cooktop fans all the time,  usually into custom stucco hood  enclosures that I build myself.  I also install alot of ovens.  I have never run across an oven unit only, that required a fan.    I also happen to have the hood you currently have in my own kitchen and am quite happy with it.  The nu-tone is quite a bit less expensive than the hood fans I usually install.  The Broan model PK-22 is most popular with the designer I work with, and the PK195 for the less expensive kitchens. 

   As long as your putting in any common brand of oven, ie. kitchenaid, dacor, viking, thermador, wolf,  then I'm sure you will not have to worry about any venting issues. 

   Don't quote me on this however,  my wife tells me I'm wrong all the time. 

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   Rachel | Jul 11, 2005 02:46am | #10

   Thanks for the post.  We're putting in the Kitchenaid double 24" ovens.  I'm inclined to keep the vent because a) it's insurance for cooking odors and, b) it's already there.  My only objection is the fan is noisy.

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   piko | Jul 05, 2005 02:42pm | #7

   The  last double oven I installed - an over and under wall-mount (?) Sears model, or at least bought thru them - just sat in its own enclosure. No need for a vent as the hot air escaped thru grilles at the top and bottom. Sounds like you'll just leave it in and forget abt the expense of even removing the fan etc.cheers

   ***I'm a contractor - but I'm trying to go straight!***

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   jtm | Jul 05, 2005 11:47pm | #8

   I've seen those oven fans in '70's kitchens w/built-in units but often forgotten nowadays during new installations.

   If your oven exhaust vent is in the front of the unit, the result will be a house full of smoke as there is no fan to collect the grease/smoke as it cooks.

   My '90's wall oven vents from the front and until an exhaust fan was mounted directly on top the vent outlet, the house would fill with cooking odor every time the oven was used.   It was a lack of foresight to have an oven exhausting directly into the kitchen and living area. 

   Visit friends or neighbor with similar oven setup and see what their experience is with smoke removal.  There may be better solution.

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   Rachel | Jul 11, 2005 02:30am | #9

   Thanks for the advice (obviously well informed by personal experience).  My oven vent sucks air IN (paper sticks to the grill/screen) and vents out through the same opening in the roof as the separate stove hood.  Based on your experience, I think I'll keep the hood.