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Over the range microwave/hood combo ????

ozbuilder | Posted in General Discussion on September 15, 2005 05:05am

I am installing my new appliances and have bought an microwave/range hood combo unit. I have often seen these installed between two upper cabinets with a cabinet housing the ductwork above. My unit will be free hanging with a bulkhead above to house the ductwork. My question is this, I mounted my unit 18inches above the finish height of the countertop ( 18 Inches is standard backsplash height right???) but it looks too low, almost like it overshadows the range below it. However the height looks fine as far the convenient use of the microwave is concerned. Those units I have seen mounted between two upper cabinets would have been 18 inches above the countertop, right?????

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  1. jwinko | Sep 15, 2005 05:20am | #1

    your microwave/vent should be 6 feet at the top, this allows for a small 12" cabinet over the top, if you are usiong 42" cabinets, then a 24' Tall cabinet would work.
    good luck
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  2. Piffin | Sep 15, 2005 05:25am | #2

    It should be at least 6" higher

     

     

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  3. FastEddie | Sep 15, 2005 05:28am | #3

    What brand diod you buy?  I may have a need for one soon.

    Check the mfgr instructions for the cooktop.  The Thermador I installed last year specified a minimum clearance on all sides, including above.

     

     

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  4. onthelevel | Sep 15, 2005 05:29am | #4

    I agree with Piffin, either a 12 or 15 inch cabinet should put it about 6 inches higher that the 18 inch bottoms.

  5. calvin | Sep 15, 2005 05:38am | #5

    oz, if the bottom of the micro is about 18'' above the counter and cooktop, you are ok. 

    The bottom of the micro should fall just a bit below the bottom of your upper cabs. 

    If you want to verify, check the cooktop clearance requirements and the installation instructions that came with the micro.

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    1. Piffin | Sep 15, 2005 06:19am | #6

      code legal with the protection plate is one thingbut being able to use the stove is another 

       

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        rjw | Sep 15, 2005 01:54pm | #9

        >>code legal with the protection plate is one thing>>but being able to use the stove is anotherYeah, I'd wnat at least 24, possible a shade less IF the stove controls are at the front.I'm not sure I'd want to put expensive electronics above a source of very hot water vapor, though.

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          BillHartmann | Sep 15, 2005 04:09pm | #12

          I think that you are all missing the point here.This is OZBUILDER.Shouldn't he be measuring the ceiling down rather the the stove up <G>.Seriously I agree with you. My neighbor is getting ready to do an extensive remodel which will end up with a new kitchen and much, much larger than the old one.There comment was that they will have more cabinets that then need and there will be a bank of about 3 pantry cabinets. Other wise the they would just have a section of unusable blank wall.But they are putting the MW over the stove.

      2. calvin | Sep 15, 2005 02:34pm | #10

        code legal and common sense is another Paul.

        38'' to top of grate-15'' clearance at back of micro-15'' upper cab = 84'' soffit ht.

        Use 12'' upper, 18'' clearance at back of micro but you look at a portion of the side cabs.

        24'' clearance and you have room for a 6'' upper above the micro.

        I haven't done thousands of kitchens as you're apt to read here on occasion, but 24'' is way too much.

        All bets are off on a btu spewing Viking.  In all cases, following the clearance recommendations of the range and micro manufacturers is the ticket.

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        1. Piffin | Sep 16, 2005 01:25am | #23

          No real cooking with big pots on that 

           

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          1. calvin | Sep 16, 2005 01:37am | #24

            I forgot, you stuff lobsters in a 5 gallon pot.

            Plenty of room for soup, pasta and every other thing we put on there.  You've got a different idea for sure on room needed to cook.

            As we are apt to say.........must be regional differences.

            Show me a pic of the 24'' distance and what you put up on top of that unit with a 7' soffit?

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            Edited 9/15/2005 6:38 pm ET by calvin

          2. Piffin | Sep 16, 2005 03:40am | #25

            Later, Gator - Camera's on the job tonight 

             

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          3. sawzall | Sep 16, 2005 04:25am | #26

            Ya'll know that you throw out the first batch of ice from a new ice maker, right?

             

            Well, you also need to throw out the first meal you cook in a new microwave. You see, the loose electrons from the factory settle into the food, and you can get radiation sickness.

  6. HeavyDuty | Sep 15, 2005 06:37am | #7

    It's one of those tough situations.

    You want the micro/vent unit high enough so you can use the stove but low enough so you can use the micro. For a vent hood without the micro I would prefer 27" but in your situation like Pif said 24".

  7. Mitremike | Sep 15, 2005 08:21am | #8

    I have put up a ton of these between cab and I have looked at the manf. specs and 18 seems to be the design number--I know what the others are saying about clearance but how many units project far enough to restrict you useing the front burners for soup pots and such--

    Trade off is a little less clearance and more conv. and safe to have it in the 18 range (no pun intented)--

    Just look at your specs--there are some unit with materials that can't handle the heat ---and spec out higher---

    Now get that sucker in so you can heat up last nights pizza...

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  8. Lansdown | Sep 15, 2005 03:25pm | #11

    I have a slightly similar install, but I won't have a soffit at all, rather stainless steel bar shelves on either side aligned with the top of the microwave (where pots hang). I set it at 24" above, in fact all the upper cabinets are 24" above the counter. The ceiling is 12' high at the wall where the stove is and the exhaust duct has been buried in the wall. Peculiar installation I know.

  9. DanH | Sep 15, 2005 04:15pm | #13

    Among other things, the installation instructions should quote minimum clearance to the cook surface.

  10. Dave45 | Sep 15, 2005 04:47pm | #14

    If memory still serves, the installation instructions for my unit called for 18" - 20" and I went with 20" to get the additional space.

    A separate issue is the noise level.  I have a GE unit that sounds like a jumbo jet on takeoff when it's on high speed.  It's quieter on low speed, but still pretty annoying.  Because of the noise, the exhaust fan is seldom used.

    1. DanH | Sep 15, 2005 05:08pm | #15

      Yeah, we replaced our old exhaust hood (harvest gold) with a new GE unit, advertised as "quiet". I'd hate to hear what they call "loud".

      1. Lansdown | Sep 15, 2005 05:27pm | #16

        Are your GE's that loud? I was about to get one thinking they were supposed to be quiet - so called squirrel cage fan.

        1. DanH | Sep 15, 2005 05:28pm | #17

          The thing is very poorly balanced and sets the entire hood to shaking.

          1. ozbuilder | Sep 15, 2005 06:41pm | #18

            Thanks everyone for your advice, I have decided to mount it at 18 inches above the finsihed counter and cooking surface. It still seems to overshadow the cooking surface below but it seems to be the most convenient height to access the microwave controls. The manufacturers instructions were very vague so the advice I recieved was great.

        2. Dave45 | Sep 15, 2005 09:30pm | #19

          A squirrel cage fan should be fine - they usually run much quieter.  Mine has a bladed fan.

          1. Lansdown | Sep 15, 2005 09:32pm | #20

            That's what I thought and I think that's the only type GE is using. The previous posts got me concerned though.

          2. DanH | Sep 15, 2005 10:14pm | #22

            Yeah, and GE is about all anyone around here sells, unless you go to the expensive lighting stores. So you're kinda stuck.

          3. DanH | Sep 15, 2005 10:13pm | #21

            Yeah, you'd think it would be quieter, but it isn't. IIRC, it's a crummy plastic fan that is imprecisely molded, so it tends to wobble quite a bit on its axis. You may, by the luck of the draw, get a quiet one, but no guarantee.

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