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   ClaysWorld | Jul 17, 2003 09:55pm | #1

   Hi doesn't sound like to much fun. How long agter the mud was on did you prime? How long after the primer did you paint? Sounds like some moisture was traped by the paint or  primer? Has the paint hardend pretty good? If so  a light scuff of sandpaper to bread the glaze/ skim coat the bad patches/ dry/ sand/ and prime. Not that it matters but it is always my choice in batrooms and kitchens to use oil base primer. I've always had good results so I don't try to reinvent the wheel.

    I used a company called bennetts paint( no longer in business) on a job along time ago and all the mudded aeras had blistering on the finish paint, what a mess. I used all the proper steps and the mud had been dry for days. The paint company warenteed the paint but so what I had to redo the whole thing plus remud ect. So I know what it's like. Plus after the job I got stiffed on the last 4 grand and had to go to court to get it.

    Clay

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   acauthorn | Jul 18, 2003 05:12pm | #2

   Mud was on for over a week before priming, if not longer. Primer was on for weeks before painting. I think I didn't get the dust off well enough after sanding as it only seems to peel along the mud joints. And it only started peeling where the tape helped pull it off...not bubbling anywhere else, so it seems like the bond wasn't there between primer and wall. I was thinking of using the original Kilz to prime. That's oil-based, right? Or any recommendations for another brand? I used the Behr primer specially made for new drywall and then Lowe's semigloss for the topcoat (both latex). Don't plan on using either again. I've been reading through the painting related posts and folks here seem to like Benjamin Moore.

   Sounds like that was a rough job. I can feel your pain. It's coming off in sheets, so I'm looking at redoing most of the bathroom. Luckily, it's a small room.

   Thanks for the advice.

   arlene

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   NickNukeEm | Jul 20, 2003 11:44pm | #3

   I put a prass-through in between a kitchen and living room plaster wall a few months ago, using setting compound on the new drywall and my usual Sherwin Williams PrepRite latex primer.  The client painted with a latex a few days after the primer.  She called a day later, stating the paint was bubbling and peeling.

   I went back, sanded down and skim coated the affected areas.  I then went to the Ben. Moore dealer, who sold me on an oil based primer.  I used it, applying two coats to the affected areas, then repainted.  No problems. 

   I'm not sure if the original problem was because I failed to wipe down the wall after final sanding prior to priming, or the paint had an alergic reaction to the latex primer, but the oil based stuff did the trick.  I've since heard this from a paint specialist friend of mine, and use oil based whenever I mix plaster and drywall.

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   andybuildz | Jul 21, 2003 12:05am | #4

   Seems like you answered your own question

        Dust will do it no doubt.....not much more to really say.

   Nothing sticks to dust. One has to damp mop the areas that will be painted.

   Also use the "blue" masking tape when masking as that doesnt rip the walls or paint apart as long as you use it within a reasonable time before taking it off.

    LAtex primers are fine..been using them for decades with no issues...Dust is your issue.

    you'll need to get off ALL the peeling paint which I'm guessing is in definate area....clean, reprime with a good primer....MAyeb try in those areas Zissner primer alch

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   acauthorn | Jul 21, 2003 04:49pm | #5

   Thanks for the help everyone. Kinda figured that it was my own fault and needed to know what the best way to fix it would be. Been looking at Zinsser perma-white for bathrooms...says it can be used as a primer and bonds to glossy surfaces without sanding. Anyone had experiences, good or bad? Seems like that would save me some work, which would be great, but I don't want to end up fixing the same problem down the road at some point. Would rather put the extra effort in now to do it right.

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   PhillGiles | Jul 21, 2003 06:08pm | #6

   I repainted our second bathroom several years ago with Zinsser Mildrew-Proof Bathroom Paint in semi-gloss. It was recommended by one of the paint stores (can't remember which one). This was back in the days when I was working the corporate standard 60-80 hour work-week (+travel-time), so I'm sure I probably didn't invest the time to prep very well. 2 coats, and it's still there (maybe 7-8 years ?), but we're starting to get a couple of chips around the window.

   Basically it was a 'I came, I saw, I covered' job that looked just fine beside the builders' paint or what the local house-painters churn out at a price.

   The work I do now looks a LOT better. .

   Phill Giles

   The Unionville Woodwright

   Unionville, Ontario

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   paintman1566 | Jul 25, 2003 08:36am | #7

   sounds like dust was your problem.. vacuum and wipe down with wet rag before priming. Then go to your local Ben Moore Dealer and ask for the Fresh Start QD-30. This product is much better than kilz and is the best primer for this job. It's a quick dry (30 mins) and low odor as well which is a big plus for people that don't like to use oil based products. Then topcoat it with the ben moore kitchen and bath paint. i sell ben moore paint and learned this system at a ben moore seminar, it works trust me :). Hope everything turns out well!!