Finally, after 27 months, I’m back to surface prep and painting on my own house. Now that I’m not a GC anymore, I can play with my own house! Yea! Our new schedula of 4X10 hours started this week, so I’ve got every Friday, at least until Jan 1, to work.
I’m going to post some pix of my considered opinion of the BEST, if most labor-intensive, way to prep and paint old heart-pine clapboards.
Okay – this was all PaintShaved and SpeedHeated clean in July of 2006. No joke. I’ll show that process when I get back to it. Now, I’ve gone over it all with 80-grit in a 5″ ROS to bring it to bright wood again. Every nail has been nailed beside with a SS 6p ring-shanked box nail – by far the best for this – no splitting, and great grip.
Then, it was sprayed down with 50/50 mix of Clorox and water in garden sprayer; then hosed off with a garden hose four hours later.
After the wood was dry to the touch, any raised grain areas were hit again – not too many, since this had been mostly exposed for two years.
Then, I sprayed on WoodLife, a clear penetrating wood-treatment, which was allowed to dry. When it’s dry, more water sprayed on will actually bead up.
Then, first coat of Porter Bonding Primer, brushed on well.
This afternoon will be caulk and filler rod, and maybe prime those parts again Tuesday evening
As a side note – I’m pleased that my adjustable work platform, on upside-down PonyClamps, was just fine after the years up on the roof.
Forrest – not a painter. Not even a builder anymore
Edited 10/12/2008 1:58 pm ET by McDesign
Replies
Good to see another picture thread from you. Look forward to seing it.
BTW... like the adjustable platform using pony clamps, have to remember that one.
-d
Are you going to keep track of the hours you put into it? It might be interesting when you're all done to have an idea of how much you saved if you had to pay someone else to do it.
This seems like one of those" I want it doen right way / my way.. It would be $$$$$$$$$$$ to pay someone to do all these steps, but they all have some value in producing a quality paint job. Good luck! dave
You definitely are doing it well. Are you planning on one of those 'Lifetime' paints such as "Fortis" or "Duration"? Porter has one as well.
I'll stay tuned. Thanx for sharing.
Chuck Slive, work, build, ...better with wood
Chuck -
I'm not going to use the "lifetime' paints like Duration. It's only lifetime if you're a certified installer, and have SW inspect the work in progress a couple of times.
I do like to use Duration, if someone else is paying for it, but I've been completely happy with the Porter AcriPro 100 - and I got seven gallons Saturday morning for $152, and Duration is $53.45 a gallon.
Frankly, I think the Porter is a little thicker and creamier and nicer to apply, but maybe it's my imagination (pretty much always use a 3" Purdy sash brush for everything)
As far as hours - having done the south side already, I already know it's cubic $%#&loads. I did get a quote about ten years ago, but it was in the vicinity of $30K for the way I wanted it done. Instead, I just bought some used scaffolding, and have been working my way around. At least this surface prep will only have to be done once - next time, it's just a scrub down and touchup and paint.
I hope!
Here's an "as-is" pic of just around the corner from where I'm working -
View Image
Forrest
Edited 10/12/2008 7:48 pm ET by McDesign
Forrest,
I agree on the Duration. $x is in the promotion. I like ICI Fortis but it is 23.00 per gal. to the trades.
Paint has advanced in the last 5 years as much as it has in the last 20. I did a test when I painted the house and the small addition. I poured about 1-1/2 sf of Fortis onto some 6 mil visqueen. When dry I peeled it off and could actually streatch it.
Most of the professional painters here use Porter or ICI. ICI is the parent Co of Devoe. AkzoNobel is the parent company.
I am the CM for a whole house renovation through my year old company, Construction Management Services, and Pittsburgh Paints is specked. $21.00 per gallon. 23 gal. required.
4-10s is a good gig.
Chuck Slive, work, build, ...better with wood
Paint has advanced in the last 5 years as much as it has in the last 20. I did a test when I painted the house and the small addition. I poured about 1-1/2 sf of Fortis onto some 6 mil visqueen. When dry I peeled it off and could actually streatch it.
Or like when my BIL left the Kilz primer on the outside of his house for two or three YEARS before getting the finish coat on top. All the neighbors thought the Kilz WAS the finish coat!jt8
Made it! Now to cut in all the green trim and darker sash. Can you see the part I can't reach without moving my platform?
View Image
Forrest
Edited 10/20/2008 7:24 pm ET by McDesign
Forrest-master of bad lighting :^)
You going with a 'Forrest' green on the trim?'Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it' ~ Chinese proverb
View Image
Can you see the part I can't reach without moving my platform?
hey, growing up I lived in the house where Dad's extension ladder wouldn't reach all the way up the gables on the house. So he painted as far as he could reach (about 8' shy of the top) and that is the way it stayed all the years we lived there.
jt8
Good enough!
Forrest
Finishing the "fun" gable over the front door -
View Image
Forrest
Edited 10/31/2008 9:03 pm ET by McDesign
Missed a spot.
;)
It looks very nice, Forrest.
That's a bunch of cutting in.A La Carte Government funding... the real democracy.
Thanks! I made & painted these little disc and buttons on the rafter tails separately, and just now screwed & glued them on - this is the stoop at the basement door to DW's tile place.
View Image
Forrest
Edited 11/5/2008 9:52 pm ET by McDesign
Guess I have to trim the holly now . . .
View Image
Forrest
Edited 11/5/2008 9:56 pm ET by McDesign
I love Duration! Here's the trick: No spraying; hand application. Top notch primer, no spraying; hand application. (Not just back rolling).
This costs a fortune in labor, and requires a client who 'gets it', but it's worth it.
When I say a client who gets it, I mean a guy with money who looks you in the eye and says: 'What would you do on your house?'.
skipj
"...I mean a guy with money who looks you in the eye and says: 'What would you do on your house?"I've had that happen before. But sometimes it just means they would like to pay me as much as I make working on my own house. ;)
Barry E-Remodeler
ditto on the duration, used it this summer on my certainteed siding, great stuff.
When I say a client who gets it, I mean a guy with money who looks you in the eye and says: 'What would you do on your house?'.
Yeah, but I'd still have a tuff time swallowing $55/gallon.
jt8
"just how long have you been working on this"
is a question i hear way too often.....
everyone has to do something... and this is my....something
P:)
Now that I'm not a GC anymore, I can play with my own house
So DW can afford you now?
jt8
Yep!
Gonna' try to dash home after work in 14 minutes and get the second coat of red on the trim before dark.
Forrest - clockwatcher
Sure glad to see another photo thread from you. Didn't realize how much your projects have sparked this board until now, not seeing any for the last six months.
Even if the subject isn't of much interest to me I'm sure I'll enjoy your posts and learn something new about something.