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   ClaysWorld | Mar 01, 2007 02:52am | #1

   How bout give you brother a job. I.T.W.

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   timberline69 | Mar 01, 2007 03:24am | #2

   HITACHI

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   Heck | Mar 01, 2007 03:56am | #3

   Hitachi

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   Excess is never too much in moderation.
   

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   ClaysWorld | Mar 01, 2007 04:26am | #5

   On the good side I see that Toyota is opening a big plant in Mississippi.

   Sniff as the last nail is shot out of my Paslode 5300.

   I hope Hitachi opens a plant here.

   Well it was a good American company till the demise. ITW

   Help you brothers out, buy from an American company when possible. It makes for great antiques.

   See chart attached.

   Edited 2/28/2007 8:31 pm by ClaysWorld

   Edited 2/28/2007 8:33 pm by ClaysWorld

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   Heck | Mar 01, 2007 04:32am | #6

   Chart looks good if you are long.

   What point are you trying to make? I'm missing the connection?_______________________________________________________________

   Excess is never too much in moderation.

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   ClaysWorld | Mar 01, 2007 04:36am | #8

   Itw is paslode. Just saying

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   Heck | Mar 01, 2007 04:37am | #9

   Understood that part. Are you saying that they are in trouble?_______________________________________________________________

   Excess is never too much in moderation.

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   ClaysWorld | Mar 01, 2007 04:42am | #11

   Only if nobody buys their stuff.

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   Piffin | Mar 01, 2007 05:20am | #12

   so what nailgun do they make?????? 

    

   Welcome to the Taunton University of Knowledge FHB Campus at Breaktime. where ... Excellence is its own reward!

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   ClaysWorld | Mar 01, 2007 05:31am | #13

   Paslode

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   ClaysWorld | Mar 01, 2007 05:51am | #15

   And this-ITWPaslode designs & manufactures pneumatic & cordless tools, nailing and stapling systems for construction and manufacturing. TLN, Floorgrip & Roofer's Choice specialty fasteners and Impulse gas powered tools are all Paslode innovations.

   Go here and take a look, it's an impressive company.

   http://www.itw.com/ Then go check out the bussiness units.

   Edited 2/28/2007 10:11 pm by ClaysWorld

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   Piffin | Mar 01, 2007 11:45pm | #21

   Here I thought all my Paslodes were French creations.... 

    

   Welcome to the Taunton University of Knowledge FHB Campus at Breaktime. where ... Excellence is its own reward!

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   ClaysWorld | Mar 02, 2007 01:26am | #22

   Now you did it - Now I have to go and look around to find out where it came from.

   No results found for  "Paslodes" 

   Sorry, no dictionaries indexed in the selected category contain the word Paslode.

   Somebody around here probably knows.Maybe over to the paslode site? Maybe no e

    

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   ClaysWorld | Mar 02, 2007 01:28am | #23

   And----drum roll-------Founded in 1935 by industrialist J.W. Leslie, Paslode

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   ClaysWorld | Mar 02, 2007 01:40am | #24

   Wow I'm glad I have my friend the mouse handy.

   1935

   Paslode founded - Signode Steel Strapping Company's founder and president J. W. Leslie established the company and called it Paslode to describe the product line: PAcking, Shipping, LOading DEvices.

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    ClaysWorld | Mar 02, 2007 02:47am | #26

    Was doing some more reading and ITW also has Wilsonart International and  wolfrange 

    They have a lot of good companies under their umbrella.

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   ClaysWorld | Mar 01, 2007 04:35am | #7

   And I'm trying to add a smaller snapshot.

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   MikeK | Mar 01, 2007 07:11am | #16

   ITW is an American company, but in the last few years they have bought many companies from around the world. The line between American company and foriegn company is sometimes a little fuzzy.

    

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   IMERC | Mar 01, 2007 09:07am | #17

   'bout time ya got something right...

    

   any words for Glennda???Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

   WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

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   Heck | Mar 01, 2007 04:59pm | #18

   Can't say Senco anymore....

   Like you and me, they don't make 'em like that anymore.

    

   Glennda?_______________________________________________________________

   I used to be schizophrenic, but we're OK now.

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   IMERC | Mar 01, 2007 05:44pm | #19

   Guess I got the last of a dying breed...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<!----><!----><!---->

   WOW!!! What a Ride!Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

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   Syma | Mar 04, 2007 04:59am | #30

   Hitachi. I have the original NR83A and it has never been rebuilt and still works flawlessly

   Edited 3/3/2007 9:00 pm ET by Syma

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   framerboy | Mar 01, 2007 04:17am | #4

   Hitachi

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   Piffin | Mar 01, 2007 04:41am | #10

   I've only heard good about both guns. I have the Paslode and all the guys like it beter than their bostichs and Sencos.

    

    

   Welcome to the
   Taunton University of Knowledge FHB Campus at Breaktime.
    where ...
   Excellence is its own reward!

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   user-246028 | Mar 01, 2007 05:34am | #14

   Pasload,

   I have found Pasload to be supreme. It's like a TIMEX , it takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'.

   Dave

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   jase | Mar 01, 2007 06:04pm | #20

   Hitachi

   I got two of them last November for $269 each at Amazon. $319 sale price plus a $50 bucks off promotion for spending over some dollar amount and free shipping.

   I like the Hitachi nose best. The four tooth pattern seems to grab the best. But it's been a while since I saw a Paslode framing nailer.

   Jase--Is there a better way?
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   hfhcarp10 | Mar 02, 2007 02:27am | #25

   Do you have the stick nailer, if so, is the plastic debris really a problem. The only really negative I've heard is that the plastic collation strips make a mess and fly in your face.It appears Hitachi's getting a thumbs up from most posters - will have to give the 83A2 a closer look.Carl

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   jase | Mar 02, 2007 03:59am | #27

   I've been hit in the face by flying plastic more than once. It doesn't happen often. It's a little surprise and stings just slightly. We all wear safety goggles with these things, right? :>p The gun actually comes with a pair.

   If your nailing off any sort of sheathing it's not a problem because the nail if traveling away from your body and face, the plastic shooting off to the side. If you are nailing and have a nice side view of the gun you are more vulnerable to a piece of flying debris. The plastic tends to fly to the left and just slightly toward the tail end of the gun.

   Do they make a mess? I've only seen and used plastic strip nails so I have nothing to compare it to. Don't the paper collated nails leave chunks of paper everywhere?

   Unless you're only doing framing make sure you don't get the NR83A2-S. The "S" means it does not have a depth adjustment.

   A question for the Paslode users--Does the Paslode have an easy way to clear nail jams? I am not asking because the Hitachi jams a lot. I think I've only seen three jams in the last two years. My brother in law doesn't use his Paslode anymore. It just needs a part or two. It is a few years old so it doesn't have a toolless depth adjustment. So the Hitachi are more fun for us to use.Jase--Is there a better way?

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   JTC1 | Mar 04, 2007 06:40am | #31

   I would vote for the Hitachi.

   Hitachi model number code interpretations based only on observation during use:

   NR83A = no depth of drive adjustment except for air pressure - less psi=less depth, more psi = more depth; no selective trigger setting - relied on sequence of events / operator actions to control bump firing - required operator to actually think. Probably not a good design by today's litigious standards.  This model was a bulletproof work horse.

   NR83A2 = tool-less depth of drive adjustment and selective trigger - one setting allows bump firing other setting does not. Mine is 3 years old - zero problems, just as I expected.

   NR83A2-S= a version typically found at big box stores; no depth of drive setting (except again by air pressure, same as NR83A); tool-less selective trigger either bump fire or no bump fire.

   Controlling depth of drive via air pressure was fairly reliable and consistant and if you work by yourself (no other tools running off the same compressor) should not cause you any problems (NR83A2-S viable alternative if you work alone)

   Chaf (my term), plastic collation chips, do fly around a bit, not a hazard provided you are wearing your safety glasses, about the only time you will notice the "mess" is if you are doing a fair amount of nailing in a closed space, such as a shop or indoors in finished space - sweeps / vacuums up along with all of the other hubris you will be producing.

   Jamming is very seldom seen and has been easily / quickly remedied with a pair of needle nose pliers (big pocket on right hand side of belt, down time <30 seconds), all of mine were caused by attempting to nail drirectly on top of a previously driven nail.

   More common problem is misfiring (no nail driven), caused by sticks which are bowed (straighten by bending) or stick "laddering" in the magazine - Hitachi manual term - refers to the head of the last nail in the lead stick being above the first nail head in the second stick (remove second stick from magazine and reload properly). Both problems are easily avoided by paying attention when reloading.

   Have no first hand experience with Paslode.

   Jim

   Never underestimate the value of a sharp pencil or good light.

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   J Paulsson | Mar 03, 2007 11:16pm | #28

   If you take good care of your tools and are willing to spring for the roundrive nails then go for Paslode.  Both guns have uppermost reputations, the Hitachi better for durability, and therefore favored by framing GCs with brute crews, both are equally fast, but the Paslode is the better toenailer, is more compact, come with built in rafter hook, has the better handle, better trigger, and with the roundrives you spend less time reloading nails (because more nails per clip), lose less from clip breakage, and don't take flying plastic to the face and the paper collation is more environmentally friendly, plus as another observed it is more or less an American product if that matters to you.

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   hfhcarp10 | Mar 03, 2007 11:23pm | #29

   Thank you J Paulsson. That is convincing argument for the Paslode. Gonna pick one up locally, where the dealer (Fasteners) sells and services Paslode. Appreciate the insights.Carl

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   jase | Mar 08, 2007 05:24am | #32

   The Hitachi NR83A series shoots roundhead nails.

    

   Edit: Meant to get this in the first time. I wanted to second the jamming only when you shoot directly over another nail, e.g. nailing sheathing and striking another nail in the framing underneath.

   Edited 3/7/2007 9:29 pm by jase